International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

[GhostZ06]

You actually dont see to much about UA tanks

 

[Strychnine]

 

[Denter]

I have intent eve just to see what for you is left/ right.
Most likely you will not be able to post even this.

You have little interest about politics, left/ right and even can't determine difference between socialism and communism and difference between social democracy and ...yeah.

Not alone that de facto " United Russia " despite talks is....FAR Right ... Like Zirinoski party...

Sandis for the love of God, please try to type a coherent sentence. I don't know what you are trying to say and can't respond to it.

 

[SandisLL]

You actually dont see to much about UA tanks

Ukraine might have such stuff: T-72 produced in USSR era, might be upgraded.... Ofc also T-64 and T-80 stuff ( like Belarus and Russia too ).
T-90 at least on paper they doesn't have.

 

[Strychnine]

Great read on that disastrous river crossing attempt by Russia.


"82 vehicles include eight in the river. The tally includes 14 tanks and 62 infantry fighting vehicles. A Russian battalion tactical group (BTG) has 10 tanks and 40 IFVs, but there’s no such thing as a full-strength BTG in Ukraine. Likely never was. So Russia just lost two BTGs worth of troops attempting to make the same compromised river crossing three times. Can you imagine the drone operator calling it in?

Drone operator: ”Another crossing!”

Artillery fire direction: “Shit! What are the coordinates?”

Drone operator: “Uh, same ones!”

Artillery fire direction: “Ha! Okay, I really thought you were kidding the second time! That was crazy. But seriously, what are the new coordinates?”"

Ukraine Update: Russia's river-crossing debacle is beyond belief (dailykos.com)

It is a literal comedy of errors!

 

[SandisLL]

Sandis for the love of God, please try to type a coherent sentence. I don't know what you are trying to say and can't respond to it.

Define what for you is left and right?

 

[PEB]

 

[Denter]

Define what for you is left and right?

Left Wing: a political belief in human equality. This can be expressed in a variety of different ways, from legal equality, racial equality, "human rights", anti-authority movements, all the way to economic equality.
Right Wing: a political belief in human inequality. This can be expressed in a variety of ways; from promoting the inequalities created by capitalism, to religious inequality, to racial hierarchies and many other ways.

The reason I say many left wing parties were banned is because many of them have names such as "Left Opposition" and "Union of Left Forces". Some of them seem to be old-timey "tankies" ie Marxist-Leninists.

 

[Cherry Brigand]

Agreed Russia was the catalyst but we don't know for certain if it wasn't going to happen eventually. Obviously what is happening in Ukraine is spooking Finland and Sweden causing the rush to join NATO. Had Russia not invaded Ukraine we will never know if they would have stayed away from NATO or if we were simply months/years away. My point holds true that any superpower will not take their enemies setting up presence near their borders lightly. This latest move will show whether Russia's threats are real.

How do you quantify enemy in this case? What aggression has NATO/US shown? Tactical nukes is saber rattling. Russia can't handle Ukraine. Will they really start a world war for their ego?

 

[BIKES!]

How do you quantify enemy in this case? What aggression has NATO/US shown? Tactical nukes is saber rattling. Russia can't handle Ukraine. Will they really start a world war for their ego?

Last time nukes were fired in a war it sped up the ending. When one side has nukes (and a lot of them) the tide can turn quickly. Let's hope it doesn't happen.

 

[Cherry Brigand]

Last time nukes were fired in a war it sped up the ending. When one side has nukes (and a lot of them) the tide can turn quickly. Let's hope it doesn't happen.

Well sure. It was a completely different situation.

 

[Terry Noonan]

Great read on that disastrous river crossing attempt by Russia.


"82 vehicles include eight in the river. The tally includes 14 tanks and 62 infantry fighting vehicles. A Russian battalion tactical group (BTG) has 10 tanks and 40 IFVs, but there’s no such thing as a full-strength BTG in Ukraine. Likely never was. So Russia just lost two BTGs worth of troops attempting to make the same compromised river crossing three times. Can you imagine the drone operator calling it in?

Drone operator: ”Another crossing!”

Artillery fire direction: “Shit! What are the coordinates?”

Drone operator: “Uh, same ones!”

Artillery fire direction: “Ha! Okay, I really thought you were kidding the second time! That was crazy. But seriously, what are the new coordinates?”"

Ukraine Update: Russia's river-crossing debacle is beyond belief (dailykos.com)

It is a literal comedy of errors!

Never let them know your next move keep spamming this fake front so you can accomplish the main mission, denatzification.

 

[GhostZ06]

They really are using old soviet tactics... huh

 

[mkess101]

Last time nukes were fired in a war it sped up the ending. When one side has nukes (and a lot of them) the tide can turn quickly. Let's hope it doesn't happen.

Last time ONLY one side had them though. But hell yes...I think we can all agree that it's not gonna be good if any are used. Even Russia using a smaller, tactical nuke could trigger the start of something monumentally bad.

 

[BIKES!]

Well sure. It was a completely different situation.

I'm sure Russia views the economic and weapon aid from the west and neighboring countries joining the enemy as an act of war. Sure Russia started it but other countries are getting involved for what Russia has to perceive as invalid reasons, i.e, Ukraine is not part of NATO

 

[mkess101]

I'm sure Russia views the economic and weapon aid from the west and neighboring countries joining the enemy as an act of war. Sure Russia started it but other countries are getting involved for what Russia has to perceive as invalid reasons, i.e, Ukraine is not part of NATO

At this point, they (Putin's regime) kind of SHOULD view it that way. Everyone dances around what each move means of course, but the reality is that we're fighting a proxy war and everyone knows it.

That said, Putin really should have realized there's such a thing as pushing too far. Checnya...Georgia...Belarus, none of those had NATO getting involved in this way. And he went in and installed his puppet regimes without a lot of trouble (had some the first time with Chechnya but fixed that for the second go 'round). But he should have know at some point he was gonna make the west nervous enough to take some sort of stand.

What has seemed to surprise most of the world of course is that Russia's military (at least from a larger scale offensive standpoint like this has needed to be) was overrated and the Ukrainian military (at least with some help along with home field advantage, from a defensive standpoint) was underrated. So this has turned out much differently so far than what almost anyone thought.

 

[PEB]

MTG says Ukraine isn't dangerous because Nancy an Mitch went there to see the President of Ukraine. She must be off the meds again lol.

 

[Rholk]

I'm sure Russia views the economic and weapon aid from the west and neighboring countries joining the enemy as an act of war. Sure Russia started it but other countries are getting involved for what Russia has to perceive as invalid reasons, i.e, Ukraine is not part of NATO

Invading your neighbour is an act of war
Arming the enemy of your competitor isn't exactly anything new.
It's not like the USSR passed up on a chance to arm enemies of the US in the past.
Just because the Ukrainians are kicking Russias teeth in isn't a reason to not arm them, hell this might be one of the best actual defense investments the west can make.

 

[Rod1]

Great read on that disastrous river crossing attempt by Russia.


"82 vehicles include eight in the river. The tally includes 14 tanks and 62 infantry fighting vehicles. A Russian battalion tactical group (BTG) has 10 tanks and 40 IFVs, but there’s no such thing as a full-strength BTG in Ukraine. Likely never was. So Russia just lost two BTGs worth of troops attempting to make the same compromised river crossing three times. Can you imagine the drone operator calling it in?

Drone operator: ”Another crossing!”

Artillery fire direction: “Shit! What are the coordinates?”

Drone operator: “Uh, same ones!”

Artillery fire direction: “Ha! Okay, I really thought you were kidding the second time! That was crazy. But seriously, what are the new coordinates?”"

Ukraine Update: Russia's river-crossing debacle is beyond belief (dailykos.com)

It is a literal comedy of errors!

Nah, that's just normal Russian military behavior.

Just follow orders, they say way walk 100 meters in front and cross the bridge, so you walk 100 meters in front and cross the bridge.

Bridge gone? ok ill report to higher ups.
Higher ups phoned in, plan remains in place, do as you can.

 

[Strychnine]

Nah, that's just normal Russian military behavior.

Just follow orders, they say way walk 100 meters in front and cross the bridge, so you walk 100 meters in front and cross the bridge.

Bridge gone? ok ill report to higher ups.
Higher ups phoned in, plan remains in place, do as you can.

Meanwhile, you're getting shelled to heck and gone.

Jeez.