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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15
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Ofc obivuously Ukraine can't win against protected by NATO and supported by Belarus and North Korea ( recently also by Iran until russia had threw Iran under bus ....) Russia.
They are intended to loss and will loss.
Now more looks that till next war part of ukraine will be incorporated in Russia, western bottlemate country.
Part will be in debts and dreams ...now looks that also most likely will be colonium superwised by russia and U.S.
They are intended to loss and will loss.
Now more looks that till next war part of ukraine will be incorporated in Russia, western bottlemate country.
Part will be in debts and dreams ...now looks that also most likely will be colonium superwised by russia and U.S.
This absolutely doesn't looks proxy war despite russia obiviously had invested billions in such propaganda during decade....
More like for west : they supplied something when assumed that ukr might get 404 quickly. When ukr performed better, always slowed down supplies.
They also long time had protected russia by prohibiting to use supplied or sold weapons to hit russia terrotory.
They obiviously had supplied stuff in best case enough to hold frontline and Ukr politicians ordered counter offensive against enemy sitting behind fortifications and minefields plus without aviation support and enemy had more artillery and MRLS and more tanks ....
It is literally deUkrainization.
I had posted that in best case IF Lucky might hold frontline.
So should had opted to shell with drones etc etc and make their own minefields and tunnels etc...
Imagine boxing journeyman booked to loss.
Till today some NATO countries doesn't allow to use weapons sold or otherwise supplied by them on or in russian territory.
2 NATO countries now are refusing to supply or sell any weapons...
Also " bad " for plebs in russia NATO not at all supplied ukr best stuff they had.
When pigi had rebellion phase western politicans were very concerned will Putin remain in power or no.
First stuff they worried about.
More like for west : they supplied something when assumed that ukr might get 404 quickly. When ukr performed better, always slowed down supplies.
They also long time had protected russia by prohibiting to use supplied or sold weapons to hit russia terrotory.
They obiviously had supplied stuff in best case enough to hold frontline and Ukr politicians ordered counter offensive against enemy sitting behind fortifications and minefields plus without aviation support and enemy had more artillery and MRLS and more tanks ....
It is literally deUkrainization.
I had posted that in best case IF Lucky might hold frontline.
So should had opted to shell with drones etc etc and make their own minefields and tunnels etc...
Imagine boxing journeyman booked to loss.
Till today some NATO countries doesn't allow to use weapons sold or otherwise supplied by them on or in russian territory.
2 NATO countries now are refusing to supply or sell any weapons...
Also " bad " for plebs in russia NATO not at all supplied ukr best stuff they had.
When pigi had rebellion phase western politicans were very concerned will Putin remain in power or no.
First stuff they worried about.
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For example in 2022 th Olaf didn't had allowed to use supplied weaponary and ammunition to strike their bottlemates russian territory.
Then russia simply had installed arty near border and shelled Harkov oblastj with fun and laugh about possible counterfire by using germany supplied stuff. Germany started to supply any heavy weapons only in May 2022 th. Before this they even didn't had sold them even for $.
Thanks to ussr era weapons and stockiples ukr had they were able to hold russia back in 2022 th...
Italy still doesn't allows to use sold or supplied by them weapons in russia territory.
It is fun really.
Turkey didn't had agreed sold a lot of stuff....
Saint South Korea is like Switzerland for Ukr
....
Etc.
Hungary ofc had supplied 0 and even doesn't allow transit for such stuff.... it is NATO country...still even more " neutral " than Austria. Austria at least had allowed transit.
Then russia simply had installed arty near border and shelled Harkov oblastj with fun and laugh about possible counterfire by using germany supplied stuff. Germany started to supply any heavy weapons only in May 2022 th. Before this they even didn't had sold them even for $.
Thanks to ussr era weapons and stockiples ukr had they were able to hold russia back in 2022 th...
Italy still doesn't allows to use sold or supplied by them weapons in russia territory.
It is fun really.
Turkey didn't had agreed sold a lot of stuff....
Saint South Korea is like Switzerland for Ukr
....
Etc.
Hungary ofc had supplied 0 and even doesn't allow transit for such stuff.... it is NATO country...still even more " neutral " than Austria. Austria at least had allowed transit.
One respect for Orban is because he always was consistent in some general opinions in open and simple text 10+ years in row.
It isn't p type Fico.
" I don't want to see Ukraine in EU or NATO.
Orban. 2007.
Nothing had changed.
Austrian political circles in general doesn't support EU enlargement at all, regardless what they are talking.
If about Ukr NATO memebership they doesn't have to say however for banking business they looks that will be more happy if Ukr wasn't in NATO.
Their banks does have branches in Russia and Ukr for a reason. Now some are closed.
Hungarian banks had expanded till uzbekistan when issued loans for private hotels even in Uzbekistan, not alone Greece ....
2005-2007...mortgage loans with mortgage property as warrant etc.
Unlike Fico Orban still had confirmed that he will follow 5 th Article for NATO and therefore this is one reason why he doesn't wants to see Ukr in NATO ...and Lisbon treaty & Vienna agreements and therefore doesn't want to see Ukraine in EU.
He didn't had changed this ..never.
It isn't p type Fico.
" I don't want to see Ukraine in EU or NATO.
Orban. 2007.
Nothing had changed.
Austrian political circles in general doesn't support EU enlargement at all, regardless what they are talking.
If about Ukr NATO memebership they doesn't have to say however for banking business they looks that will be more happy if Ukr wasn't in NATO.
Their banks does have branches in Russia and Ukr for a reason. Now some are closed.
Hungarian banks had expanded till uzbekistan when issued loans for private hotels even in Uzbekistan, not alone Greece ....
2005-2007...mortgage loans with mortgage property as warrant etc.
Unlike Fico Orban still had confirmed that he will follow 5 th Article for NATO and therefore this is one reason why he doesn't wants to see Ukr in NATO ...and Lisbon treaty & Vienna agreements and therefore doesn't want to see Ukraine in EU.
He didn't had changed this ..never.
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The one stuff about difference between NATO 5 th article and Lisbon treaty and Vienna agreements that from this will be more difficult to weasel out or avoid if EU country full EU member will be attacked. LoL, € and mandatory other support etc...bla bla bla... including ofc not comfortable for matushka stuff.....
I can get why Orban doesn't want to see Ukr in EU.
These are legit realistic reasons....
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Best dream for Kremlin might be full scale war between 2 EU member countries.
I can get why Orban doesn't want to see Ukr in EU.
These are legit realistic reasons....
_<
Best dream for Kremlin might be full scale war between 2 EU member countries.
This yet didn't had get thus far.
EC is concerned that Ukr didn't had implemented 3 promised reforms.
Therefore will reduce next money " injection " portion.
This is even before latest scandal with these looks that irl useless anti corruption agencies.
When EC will get till this....then shit will be worse for ukr ofc.
After this next third fun aboyt audits might happen too.
However ukr does have grants and loans also from countries and institutions on individual basis...so... these without EC stuff ofc.
These too might ask.
However they had get last time 500 000 000 $ next loan portion from IMF.
Also they will ask next portions from EBRD, IBRD, WB too....and from countries on individual basis too...loans, grants etc.
ukr PM told that 70% their budget is european money....zelensky then kicked him out.
EC is concerned that Ukr didn't had implemented 3 promised reforms.
Therefore will reduce next money " injection " portion.
This is even before latest scandal with these looks that irl useless anti corruption agencies.
When EC will get till this....then shit will be worse for ukr ofc.
After this next third fun aboyt audits might happen too.
However ukr does have grants and loans also from countries and institutions on individual basis...so... these without EC stuff ofc.
These too might ask.
However they had get last time 500 000 000 $ next loan portion from IMF.
Also they will ask next portions from EBRD, IBRD, WB too....and from countries on individual basis too...loans, grants etc.
ukr PM told that 70% their budget is european money....zelensky then kicked him out.
Funny. China definitely is happy: these obiviously are using cheap mainstream engines, so China....ofc might be imported via 3 rd countries cos it is civilian engine not any kind of super puper secret. Like for iranian drones clones, while russia is claiming that they now does manufacture engine in russia. Sahed drone engine is some 25 years old mainstream mass production european engine chinesse clones copy cloned by Iran too and most likely Russia.
It is suspected that due to simple construction a lot of ukr drones might be smuggled in Russia and assembled in Russia...and launched from Russia....
To launch from Russia does gave damn big advantages : easier to avoid early detection by located near borders sensors and radars, observators etc....
Russia is large area and strikes might be directed from different directions IF launched from Russia..mmm..
Like when they had fun with small quadrocopters in rublevka ...
Ukr also might hire informants in russia, saboteurs etc and to rent via middlemans garages etc stuff...
It is suspected that due to simple construction a lot of ukr drones might be smuggled in Russia and assembled in Russia...and launched from Russia....
To launch from Russia does gave damn big advantages : easier to avoid early detection by located near borders sensors and radars, observators etc....
Russia is large area and strikes might be directed from different directions IF launched from Russia..mmm..
Like when they had fun with small quadrocopters in rublevka ...
Ukr also might hire informants in russia, saboteurs etc and to rent via middlemans garages etc stuff...
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I thought starlink had a big outage?
What big? 2.5 hours.
However it is fun that russia does use Starlink in Ukraine too, so they had to taste effect too.
Both these sides uses Starlink... usually all imported as civilian stuff for civilian usage via ppl in 3 rd countries ...LoL.
In Russia is doesn't work well cos obiviously Qutin doesn't want this to happen: then to control population internet usage will be more difficult.
However it is fun that russia does use Starlink in Ukraine too, so they had to taste effect too.
Both these sides uses Starlink... usually all imported as civilian stuff for civilian usage via ppl in 3 rd countries ...LoL.
In Russia is doesn't work well cos obiviously Qutin doesn't want this to happen: then to control population internet usage will be more difficult.
Brazilian MSM did a total 180° on its stance of the ukraine war. At the start of the war their stance were almost like a "killing russians safari" for "freedom fighters".
This week has been multiple reports of dead and missing brazilians, brazilian amputees, brazilians who want to get back but are locked in their contracts. Dude being recruited to operate drones but being sent to the front. Salary 5x less than the amount promissed, families that didnt get the pomissed money for a dead combatant.
The timing of this 180 plus the protests happening there seems very suspicious to me.
This week has been multiple reports of dead and missing brazilians, brazilian amputees, brazilians who want to get back but are locked in their contracts. Dude being recruited to operate drones but being sent to the front. Salary 5x less than the amount promissed, families that didnt get the pomissed money for a dead combatant.
The timing of this 180 plus the protests happening there seems very suspicious to me.
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You do know that Ukraine runs a black market right?
Not only does the money not go where it is supposed to go, but a good portion of the weapons going to Ukraine are sold in the black market to other countries. Some are even finishing up in the hands of cartels in Mexico.
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You don't say.
But Zelensky is an honorable man. Ukraine is a true democracy. That can't be true!
So, Brazilians are missing in Ukraine, Brazilians can't get back to Brazil, promised one thing but given another, and Brazilians not being paid.
Sounds about right for a corrupt country (Ukraine) with a corrupt leadership.
I don't know how dumb people have to be to offer their services to go fight in Ukraine. It is a lost cause.
Russia on the move westward. Thousands of Ukrainian soldiers dying. ...but the left leaning western media does not want to cover that.
