International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

Now there they does have discussions sessions about future tariffs for stuff like medicaments and precussor substances used to manufacture medicaments in U.S.

If about rare sorts of insuline they are even in worse situation with huge dependency from according to them " dying eurpean parasites etc...good enough to sell overpriced LNG and waepons and shit on when it is comfortable.


If about precussors and key substances too it is MAGA. More than 60% is import.

Senators and congressmans together with companies chains and pharmacy sales chains are " happy " with Donald. Insurance companies too....ofc.
MAGA ....
 
I just want to point out that the story of the 2 Chinese soliders is complete and utter nonsense. So you go sign up to fight for Russia, then Russia gasses you with chemical weapons and the Ukrainians save you? I don't believe for a second that this actually happened, because its so far fetched.

"I signed up to fight for Russia, then Russia tried to kill me with chemical weapons and brave Ukranian soliders saved us"

If anyone believes this story you're actually retarded
I think they actually hired Jussie Smollet to write the story for them.

They had to go full retard and say chemical weapons and thats how you know for sure the story is a lie.

There are thousands of ways this could have happened but they tried to make it sounds the best possible way for Ukraine and the worst possible way for Russia. There is zero chance this happened
 
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I just want to point out that the story of the 2 Chinese soliders is complete and utter nonsense. So you go sign up to fight for Russia, then Russia gasses you with chemical weapons and the Ukrainians save you? I don't believe for a second that this actually happened, because its so far fetched.

"I signed up to fight for Russia, then Russia tried to kill me with chemical weapons and brave Ukranian soliders saved us"

If anyone believes this story you're actually retarded
I think they actually hired Jussie Smollet to write the story for them.

They had to go full retard and say chemical weapons and thats how you know for sure the story is a lie.
There is video from drones of Russians covering the bodies of North Korean Soldiers with their faces having been ripped off. They at the time did not want people to know that North Korean soldiers had been deployed. So is it really so far out and idea?
 
There is video from drones of Russians covering the bodies of North Korean Soldiers with their faces having been ripped off. They at the time did not want people to know that North Korean soldiers had been deployed. So is it really so far out and idea?

I cant say anything about these alleged videos because i haven't seen them but yes they are 100% lying here. I don't know exactly what these Chinese soldiers are trying to accomplish, i only know they are lying. The odds of this happening the way they tell it are so astronomically low, and that's how you know it's a lie. Just how everyone knew Jussie Smollet was lying before it was ever proven, because the story was an obvious fabrication.

They always go overboard on their bullshit to try and sell the narrative and that's where they give it away. I guarantee you it never happened.

They couldn't have just said they captured Chinese soldiers and this is what they said, but they had to put a full retard story around it where they "saved" the Chinese soldiers from chemical weapons.
 
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Lukashenko maybe is thinking that due to emigration Belarus does have shortage of workforce.
Therefore he invited officials from Pakistan and told that they maybe might issue till 150 000 work permits.

Maybe Lukashenko will build also mosques in Minsk. Allah doesn't have borders.
 
Zelenka officials are strange. They told that does wants to build new nuclear reactors for power plant. LOL, they does have war in ukraine, why to talk about such dreams?
In the same time they
 
I just want to point out that the story of the 2 Chinese soliders is complete and utter nonsense. So you go sign up to fight for Russia, then Russia gasses you with chemical weapons and the Ukrainians save you? I don't believe for a second that this actually happened, because its so far fetched.

"I signed up to fight for Russia, then Russia tried to kill me with chemical weapons and brave Ukranian soliders saved us"

If anyone believes this story you're actually retarded
I think they actually hired Jussie Smollet to write the story for them.

They had to go full retard and say chemical weapons and thats how you know for sure the story is a lie.

There are thousands of ways this could have happened but they tried to make it sounds the best possible way for Ukraine and the worst possible way for Russia. There is zero chance this happened
It was vaspene gas ...
 
Looks that after Witkoff talks with russia, more chances that we will see ....very long war in Ukraine.
Witkoff suggested that there is only small ptoblem with 5 provinces in Ukraine.

Putin ofc had get that if he will manage to grab all these provinces....he will be able to grab more...next provinces . Why not¿
 
This is how we know Trump is not operating from a neutral or even business standpoint....


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Trump Derides Zelensky’s Request To Buy $15B Worth Of Patriot Air Defense Systems​

Howard Altman
Mon, April 14, 2025 at 3:01 PM PDT
7 min read

U.S. President Donald Trump derided Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's offer to buy 10 Patriot air defense systems.


U.S. President Donald Trump derided Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's offer to buy 10 Patriot air defense systems.

Generate Key Takeaways
U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday chided Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s request to purchase Patriot air defense systems. Zelensky made that statement during an interview that aired Sunday on CBS News60 Minutes program.

“He’s always looking to purchase missiles,” Trump said when asked about Zelensky’s offer. “Listen, when you start a war, you got to know that you can win the war, right? You don’t start a war against somebody that’s 20 times your size, and then hope that people give you some missiles.”

Trump responds to Zelensky’ offer to purchase 10 Patriot missile batteries.

Trump: “Oh i don’t know, he’s always looking to purchase missiles. When you start a war you gotta know you can win it. You don't start a war against someone 20 times your size & hope people give you some… pic.twitter.com/Koc2g2nMJN

— Polymarket Intel (@PolymarketIntel) April 14, 2025

The comments from Trump, made during a press conference with El Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele, are the latest manifestation of a rocky relationship between the two leaders. That discontent reached its peak in February during a disastrous Oval Office meeting.

The Biden administration provided Ukraine with three Patriot batteries and an unspecified number of missiles, according to the Pentagon. Faced with ongoing Russian airstrikes and a growing lack of air defense systems and munitions, Zelensky told the network that he wants to buy an additional 10 Patriot air defense systems from the United States, valued at about $1.5 billion a piece. He also called on European partners to help finance the deal. In all, Zelensky wants to purchase a $50B package of arms from the United States.

“There is a Patriot system, and you have a lot of them, and you have production,” Zelensky said he told Trump. “There are several steps to protect Ukraine. Step number one: one system that costs one and a half billion dollars; we are ready to buy at least 10 systems to cover some cities, only civilians, and city centers where people are crowded… We will find this money, and we will pay everything.”

MECKLENBURG, GERMANY - JUNE 11: Volodymyr Zelensky, President of Ukraine, stands in front of a Patriot anti-aircraft missile system during his visit to a military training area on June 11, 2024 in Mecklenburg, Germany. Zelensky is in Berlin to also attend the Ukrainian Recovery Conference. Germany is the second biggest donor of military aid to Ukraine. (Photo by Jens Büttner - Pool/Getty Images)


Volodymyr Zelensky, president of Ukraine, stands in front of a Patriot anti-aircraft missile system during his visit to a military training area on June 11, 2024 in Mecklenburg, Germany. (Photo by Jens Büttner – Pool/Getty Images) Pool
While Zelensky seems to be asking for the purchase of new Patriot systems, as we previously pointed out, the U.S. is facing extreme demand for its own existing ones. Concerns about what this means for the prospect of adequately defending U.S. forces deployed overseas, as well as the U.S. homeland, is something senior U.S. military leaders, as well as The War Zone, have been drawing attention to for some time.



Short of buying Patriot systems directly, Zelensky suggested a second option of licensing the manufacture of these systems and the corresponding missiles. That seems very unlikely considering the technologies and sensitivities surrounding the Patriot system, but licensed manufacturing of certain components of the system does exist today among key allies.




Regardless, even if Zelensky is able to come up with the $15 billion in financing to move the order ahead, it would take years for the systems to arrive in Ukraine given the limited (but expanding) production capacity and the backlog of existing domestic and foreign orders. European or other customers, including the U.S., could defer some of their orders to Ukraine, but considering the fears of larger wars in both hemispheres, such generosity may be hard to come by.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is seeking European investment in a domestically made strategic-level air defense system, according to the nation’s foreign minister.

Speaking to the European Union’s Council of Foreign Ministers on Monday, Andriy Sybiga pointed to yesterday’s deadly Russian attack on Sumy and the recent strike on Kryvyi Rih as reasons why Europeans should provide funding to accelerate the implementation of this developing air defense system.


Sybiga, however, did not offer any details about what kinds of launchers, sensors, and effectors this system will contain.


INSIDER
“I call on your governments and municipalities to consider providing additional support for Sumy and Kryvyi Rih, for the people in these cities,” Sybiga stated. “All of Ukraine will be grateful to you for this.” In addition, he called on Europe to increase military assistance to Ukraine, primarily by strengthening its air defense capabilities with additional [systems], launchers, missiles and spare parts.”

Ukraine is working on developing its own strategic-level air defense system and offers European partners to invest in it to accelerate its implementation — Ukrainian Foreign Minister Sybiha pic.twitter.com/Yqom1Pi40e

Back in February, Zelensky announced that Ukraine was developing an analog of the Patriot air defense system. Previously, Zelensky said he was receiving calls from the military about a shortage of missiles for the American systems. A Trump administration pause in providing Ukraine with arms and intelligence, made after the Oval Office blowout, exacerbated Ukraine’s lack of air defense munitions.

Ukraine is not alone in seeking Patriot effectors. Last year, NATO announced a plan to buy 1,000 Patriot missiles and bring production to Europe spurred by the war and a growing concern about Russian aggression.

The Ukrainian leaders’ comments about air defense systems came after Russian missiles struck the heart of the Ukrainian city of Sumy as people gathered to celebrate Palm Sunday, killing at least 34 people, The Associated Press reported on Monday, citing officials said.

The two ballistic missiles hit around 10:15 a.m., officials told the wire service. Images from the scene showed lines of black body bags on the side of the road, while more bodies were seen wrapped in foil blankets among the debris. Video footage also showed fire crews fighting to extinguish the shells of burned-out cars among the rubble from damaged buildings.

“Yesterday’s strike alone claimed 34 lives and left 119 people injured,” Zelensky said. “Tragically, 2 children were killed, and another 15 were wounded.”

Multiple officials, including Presidential Office Head Andriy Yermak and U.S. Ambassador Bridget Brink, reported that Russia used cluster munitions in the attack on Sumy, according to the Kyiv Independent.

Currently, 38 people are receiving treatment in medical facilities in Sumy following yesterday’s Russian ballistic strike — among them, 9 children. 11 people, including 3 children, are in critical condition. Every effort is being made to provide them with maximum assistance.… pic.twitter.com/fRDV0mVepN
— Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa) April 14, 2025
Today’s Palm Sunday church service in Ukraine's city of Sumy interrupted, as ruZZians massacre people near ANOTHER church 3 blocks away.

After sending one ballistic missile, they then sent another loaded with cluster munitions.
pic.twitter.com/Rs1BdF41Hl

— Claretta Nijhuis (@NijhuisClaretta) April 13, 2025
The Sumy attack was “a mistake,” said Trump, The New York Times reported on Monday.


“I think it was terrible. And I was told they made a mistake,” Trump said aboard Air Force One on Sunday. “But I think it’s a horrible thing.”

Some top officials in the Trump administration, however, were more explicit about blaming Russia, the publication explained.

“Keith Kellogg, a retired U.S. general and Mr. Trump’s special envoy for Ukraine said that Russian forces had crossed ‘any line of decency’ by targeting civilians in Sumy,” the Times stated. “Secretary of State Marco Rubio also condemned what he described as a ‘horrifying Russian missile attack on Sumy.”

Russia on Monday claimed that the attack “targeted a gathering of Ukrainian troops, while European leaders condemned the attack as a war crime,” according to AP.

President Trump reacted to the Russian strike on Sumy yesterday:

"I think it was terrible, and I was told they made a mistake, but I think it's a horrible thing." https://t.co/ZkumXo22ae pic.twitter.com/xt2409r2VA

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) April 14, 2025
Trump’s comments about Zelensky’s request come as the U.S. president is seeking to broker a more substantial ceasefire between Moscow and Kyiv leading eventually to a peace deal between the two warring nations. Trump’s Special Envoy Steve Witkoff was in Moscow last week to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin. The meetings were “extremely useful,” Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on April 14. A recording of the meeting sparked outrage in Ukraine.

After Putin spent 3+ years killing innocent civilians in Ukraine, Trump’s envoy Witkoff has met with Putin to discuss lifting sanctions against Russia.

WH – still silent. pic.twitter.com/RrLhqAeDoR

— Olga Nesterova (@onestpress) April 11, 2025
While we can’t know how serious Zelensky was in his Patriot offer, it came as his country is finding itself less and less able to defend against Russian airstrikes.

Contact the author: howard@thewarzone.com"
 


Russian command post gets taken out.



Brigade that hit Sumy gets what it deserved.
 
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This is how we know Trump is not operating from a neutral or even business standpoint....


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Trump Derides Zelensky’s Request To Buy $15B Worth Of Patriot Air Defense Systems​

Howard Altman
Mon, April 14, 2025 at 3:01 PM PDT
7 min read

U.S. President Donald Trump derided Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's offer to buy 10 Patriot air defense systems.'s offer to buy 10 Patriot air defense systems.


U.S. President Donald Trump derided Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's offer to buy 10 Patriot air defense systems.

Generate Key Takeaways
U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday chided Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s request to purchase Patriot air defense systems. Zelensky made that statement during an interview that aired Sunday on CBS News60 Minutes program.

“He’s always looking to purchase missiles,” Trump said when asked about Zelensky’s offer. “Listen, when you start a war, you got to know that you can win the war, right? You don’t start a war against somebody that’s 20 times your size, and then hope that people give you some missiles.”



The comments from Trump, made during a press conference with El Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele, are the latest manifestation of a rocky relationship between the two leaders. That discontent reached its peak in February during a disastrous Oval Office meeting.

The Biden administration provided Ukraine with three Patriot batteries and an unspecified number of missiles, according to the Pentagon. Faced with ongoing Russian airstrikes and a growing lack of air defense systems and munitions, Zelensky told the network that he wants to buy an additional 10 Patriot air defense systems from the United States, valued at about $1.5 billion a piece. He also called on European partners to help finance the deal. In all, Zelensky wants to purchase a $50B package of arms from the United States.

“There is a Patriot system, and you have a lot of them, and you have production,” Zelensky said he told Trump. “There are several steps to protect Ukraine. Step number one: one system that costs one and a half billion dollars; we are ready to buy at least 10 systems to cover some cities, only civilians, and city centers where people are crowded… We will find this money, and we will pay everything.”

MECKLENBURG, GERMANY - JUNE 11: Volodymyr Zelensky, President of Ukraine, stands in front of a Patriot anti-aircraft missile system during his visit to a military training area on June 11, 2024 in Mecklenburg, Germany. Zelensky is in Berlin to also attend the Ukrainian Recovery Conference. Germany is the second biggest donor of military aid to Ukraine. (Photo by Jens Büttner - Pool/Getty Images)


Volodymyr Zelensky, president of Ukraine, stands in front of a Patriot anti-aircraft missile system during his visit to a military training area on June 11, 2024 in Mecklenburg, Germany. (Photo by Jens Büttner – Pool/Getty Images) Pool
While Zelensky seems to be asking for the purchase of new Patriot systems, as we previously pointed out, the U.S. is facing extreme demand for its own existing ones. Concerns about what this means for the prospect of adequately defending U.S. forces deployed overseas, as well as the U.S. homeland, is something senior U.S. military leaders, as well as The War Zone, have been drawing attention to for some time.



Short of buying Patriot systems directly, Zelensky suggested a second option of licensing the manufacture of these systems and the corresponding missiles. That seems very unlikely considering the technologies and sensitivities surrounding the Patriot system, but licensed manufacturing of certain components of the system does exist today among key allies.




Regardless, even if Zelensky is able to come up with the $15 billion in financing to move the order ahead, it would take years for the systems to arrive in Ukraine given the limited (but expanding) production capacity and the backlog of existing domestic and foreign orders. European or other customers, including the U.S., could defer some of their orders to Ukraine, but considering the fears of larger wars in both hemispheres, such generosity may be hard to come by.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is seeking European investment in a domestically made strategic-level air defense system, according to the nation’s foreign minister.

Speaking to the European Union’s Council of Foreign Ministers on Monday, Andriy Sybiga pointed to yesterday’s deadly Russian attack on Sumy and the recent strike on Kryvyi Rih as reasons why Europeans should provide funding to accelerate the implementation of this developing air defense system.


Sybiga, however, did not offer any details about what kinds of launchers, sensors, and effectors this system will contain.


INSIDER
“I call on your governments and municipalities to consider providing additional support for Sumy and Kryvyi Rih, for the people in these cities,” Sybiga stated. “All of Ukraine will be grateful to you for this.” In addition, he called on Europe to increase military assistance to Ukraine, primarily by strengthening its air defense capabilities with additional [systems], launchers, missiles and spare parts.”


Back in February, Zelensky announced that Ukraine was developing an analog of the Patriot air defense system. Previously, Zelensky said he was receiving calls from the military about a shortage of missiles for the American systems. A Trump administration pause in providing Ukraine with arms and intelligence, made after the Oval Office blowout, exacerbated Ukraine’s lack of air defense munitions.

Ukraine is not alone in seeking Patriot effectors. Last year, NATO announced a plan to buy 1,000 Patriot missiles and bring production to Europe spurred by the war and a growing concern about Russian aggression.

The Ukrainian leaders’ comments about air defense systems came after Russian missiles struck the heart of the Ukrainian city of Sumy as people gathered to celebrate Palm Sunday, killing at least 34 people, The Associated Press reported on Monday, citing officials said.

The two ballistic missiles hit around 10:15 a.m., officials told the wire service. Images from the scene showed lines of black body bags on the side of the road, while more bodies were seen wrapped in foil blankets among the debris. Video footage also showed fire crews fighting to extinguish the shells of burned-out cars among the rubble from damaged buildings.

“Yesterday’s strike alone claimed 34 lives and left 119 people injured,” Zelensky said. “Tragically, 2 children were killed, and another 15 were wounded.”

Multiple officials, including Presidential Office Head Andriy Yermak and U.S. Ambassador Bridget Brink, reported that Russia used cluster munitions in the attack on Sumy, according to the Kyiv Independent.

Currently, 38 people are receiving treatment in medical facilities in Sumy following yesterday’s Russian ballistic strike — among them, 9 children. 11 people, including 3 children, are in critical condition. Every effort is being made to provide them with maximum assistance.… pic.twitter.com/fRDV0mVepN


The Sumy attack was “a mistake,” said Trump, The New York Times reported on Monday.


“I think it was terrible. And I was told they made a mistake,” Trump said aboard Air Force One on Sunday. “But I think it’s a horrible thing.”

Some top officials in the Trump administration, however, were more explicit about blaming Russia, the publication explained.

“Keith Kellogg, a retired U.S. general and Mr. Trump’s special envoy for Ukraine said that Russian forces had crossed ‘any line of decency’ by targeting civilians in Sumy,” the Times stated. “Secretary of State Marco Rubio also condemned what he described as a ‘horrifying Russian missile attack on Sumy.”

Russia on Monday claimed that the attack “targeted a gathering of Ukrainian troops, while European leaders condemned the attack as a war crime,” according to AP.


Trump’s comments about Zelensky’s request come as the U.S. president is seeking to broker a more substantial ceasefire between Moscow and Kyiv leading eventually to a peace deal between the two warring nations. Trump’s Special Envoy Steve Witkoff was in Moscow last week to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin. The meetings were “extremely useful,” Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on April 14. A recording of the meeting sparked outrage in Ukraine.


While we can’t know how serious Zelensky was in his Patriot offer, it came as his country is finding itself less and less able to defend against Russian airstrikes.

Contact the author: howard@thewarzone.com"
Looks that Trump doesn't wants to sell even missiles for these patriots ukr already does have....
Maybe Witkoff told him that without them Ukr will sooner agree to cede 5 oblastjs for russia.

Putin ofc after this will demand next oblastjs and maybe Witkoff and Trump will agree with next Putin's demands...


There looks that for other countries isn't safe to purchase weapons from U.S : Trump might later not agree to sell ammo etc for them.
Why not? Might tell that Russia is large and good buye.

They might maybe soon start to love also North Korea, why not?
 
This is how we know Trump is not operating from a neutral or even business standpoint....


Trump Derides Zelensky’s Request To Buy $15B Worth Of Patriot Air Defense Systems
Well, the fact that the US wants to stay out of the fight means exactly that - it wants to be neutral. Like Switzerland.
At least under Trump. He sees this as a European problem. Why does Zelensky need US made Patriot air defense systems? Isn't Ukraine getting military help from France, Germany and Great Britain? Go buy an air defense system from those countries.

Trump may not like Putin at the moment, but he absolutely hates Zelensky. He sees Russia as the bigger player between the two countries. He also believes Ukraine instigated this invasion. Let us not forget that Joe Biden told Putin a 'small' Russian military incursion into Ukraine would be just fine with him. Crimea (2014) was not a problem for Biden, and I am assuming something on the same scale would also be just fine with Biden. Trump also sees Zelensky as a corrupt president and a corrupt government. Nothing close to a true democracy. He knows how the ethnic Russian minority in the country was brutalized under Zelensky.

I like the way you list the link to the article and then go on to print the whole article (with pictures) and take half a page. Like we don't know how to click on a link.

Here are Russia's (Putin's) demands. They have not changed and some were requested prior to the invasion (some were the cause for this invasion):
  • Ukraine must demilitarize.
  • Ukraine must "denazify" and install a "legitimate" government.
  • Ukraine must abandon its aspirations to join NATO or any security bloc in the future.
  • Ukraine must concede occupied Ukrainian territory and "Novorossiya" to Russia.
  • Any resolution of the war must address the war's "root causes."
 
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After sending one ballistic missile, they then sent another loaded with cluster munitions.
Cluster munitions are part of the US military arsenal.
“Keith Kellogg, a retired U.S. general and Mr. Trump’s special envoy for Ukraine said that Russian forces had crossed ‘any line of decency’ by targeting civilians in Sumy,” the Times stated.
Yeah, why don't they ask Kellogg about his time in Vietnam and how US forces target civilians there.
 
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