International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[SandisLL]

"The landing in Iwo Jima was a huge failure! So many people died and we didn't even get to keep the beach!"

Russia invades Ukraine. Ukrainian soldiers fight and die to defend their country. Putin cucks/ Russian bots /Trumpists = "Ukraine is so bad because they're letting people die!"

These putin cucks are so weird.


One of the things I've noticed in this war is how common suppressors have become. Suppressors used to be like a Spec Ops, covert mission or SWAT team type thing but now regular front infantry guys use it.

For suppressor usage you need inherently subsonic ammunition....such ammo is produced also for 5.45x39 and 5.56x45 and 7.62x51 and 338 th.

BTW suppressors were very popular in Ukraine and Russia for criminal circle and also special ops stuff long ago.

Soviets even had designed and produced weapons and cartridges designed to work without suppressor. With sel mechanisms and pusher for bullet.
In order to make gases not escape cartridge....
They had produced 2 barrel type pistols like derringers for assaitnations.

 

[SandisLL]

in 1990 ies really in high demand were Nagant revolvers in very good condition. Excellent tool for assasinations : cylinder doesn't discharge cartridges body ofc not automatically. Cartridge is subsonic, if you use good suppressor....it does provide obturarion unlike other revolvers because before shot cylinder is attached to barrel without gap.

Also these 22 LR pistols plus subsonic cartridge and normal silencer. There ofc remaining of cartridge will be automatically discharged...so more material for forsenics.

The same saw off in order to get barrel shorter smoothbore guns....
Normally in container might be loaded not just lead pellets for buckshot but even " pellets " from ball bearings....steel stuff.
Very crude but devastating weapon for planned assassinations from close range.
This yes...it is even 1900 ies mafia style tool.
Because very effective.

 

[SandisLL]

"The landing in Iwo Jima was a huge failure! So many people died and we didn't even get to keep the beach!"

Russia invades Ukraine. Ukrainian soldiers fight and die to defend their country. Putin cucks/ Russian bots /Trumpists = "Ukraine is so bad because they're letting people die!"

These putin cucks are so weird.


One of the things I've noticed in this war is how common suppressors have become. Suppressors used to be like a Spec Ops, covert mission or SWAT team type thing but now regular front infantry guys use it.

There is thing that for example armour penteration is better achieved when bullet does have specific design and core, faster = better....

Not always even elite snipers does use suppressors.
As there a lot of sound and noise in active battlefield area and you need longer distance = better....and to reach more flat trajectory and longer effective range for bullet...it will be desired Mv0 at least 800 m/s, more = Better.

Stuff with suppressors usually is used for distance till some 400 meters in best case.

 

[SandisLL]

One from things with environment friends and greens lead free hunting ammunition in europe ended like this:
You need lead free environment friendly hunting ammunition with lead free certificate.
Some commercial ammo manufacturers had offered for example buckshots versions with plastic container, other stuff ofc and " pellets " from stuff produced from ball bearings " pellets "...without lead used. Nice steel manufactured in order to bear very high physical load in order to do job as had been calculated.

Nice and really devastating penteration....ofc these 12 and 16 gouge smoothbore for 0 choke barells usually.
Ofc with proper container might be used with 1 choke smoothbore.


It ...yes was lead free initiative.

 

[PEB]

 

[SandisLL]

Mainstream official propaganda ofc might change a bit but americans for russians always will be stupid loosers, regardless reps or dems. Literally idiots with yanks economy should collapse yesterday. Appeasement here will not help.
For ukrainians americans are hardcore traitors and liars treating them like kurds or afganistan or south vietnam regardless reps or dems. Hate will only increase and for a reason. Soon they will hate americans not lesser than russians.

 

[ShadowRun]

You mean to post that in this thread?

 

[Blayt7hh]

70,000 dead? I almost find that hard to believe.

Isn’t it something when the guy insulting everyone’s intelligence and accusing everyone of propaganda cites a tabloid piece?

 

[Blayt7hh]

Would be nice seeing you the frontline tough guy.

Ukranians being forcefully conscripted doesn't sound good at all.

I wonder when I see people like you posting if you guys really are so bitch made that if America were invaded, you would advocate surrendering?

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Isn’t it something when the guy insulting everyone’s intelligence and accusing everyone of propaganda cites a tabloid piece?

For sure, I've been following the Kursk icursion for over half a year from news sources on both sides and never read anything close to this . then as they tactically retreat and next thing you know 70,000 troops down the drain when the Russian bloggers have made no such claim....obvious BS but I like when the planks jump all over it to be truth.

 

[Blayt7hh]

For sure, I've been following the Kursk icursion for over half a year from news sources on both sides and never read anything close to this . then as they tactically retreat and next thing you know 70,000 troops down the drain when the Russian bloggers have made no such claim....obvious BS but I like when the planks jump all over it to be truth.

Yeah I tried to find another source saying that and the closes thing I saw was Al Jazerra citing 50k Casualties, not dead. No idea what the real number is but I know it’s not 70k because that would be just about everyone they sent into Kursk

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

I wonder when I see people like you posting if you guys really are so bitch made that if America were invaded, you would advocate surrendering?

I wonder if they understand that if it wasnt for conscription that UKR would be under Russian control as we speak. Sometimes peoples feelings get in the way of reality.

 

[SandisLL]

I wonder when I see people like you posting if you guys really are so bitch made that if America were invaded, you would advocate surrendering?

With him is useless to talk.
BTW if he is real human he always does have chance to taste stuff what is to be victim.
After this will rush to talk with God. Maybe in internet and will beg even " libtards " to help him if he will be still aliwe. Maga loves tough and rich successful guys.

I think that he still does have chances to feel in real life a lot ... if he is real human.

 

[Strychnine]

Pantsir gets pantsed!

 

[Strychnine]

"BubbuuTTT! Ukrainian soldiers are surrounded!!!!!"

- Average plank.

 

[San Marino]

@aerius, @b-hop
An interesting video into the history of Ukraine and the current conflict. The part the US played.
So, Ukraine is now drafting 60- and 70-year-old men?
There seems to be a large number of Ukrainians growing as an opposition to Zelensky.

 

[SandisLL]

Will see. Looks that next month Trump and Europe will get that war continues as usually....
Ofc Putin does knows that Trump wants ceasefire ASAP ....he ofc since 2022 th does knows that Europe wants ceasefire in Ukraine for mercantile reason: lesser refugees and immigrants from Ukraine....they even delayed first sanctions package real implementation till 08.03.2022 th.... cos Ukr for them is nothing special, ofc when they get number of refugees they now does have and all this barking and yelling...only then some sanctions started to be implemented....


So Putin easily might continue war in Ukraine and talk that he does wants ceasefire and peace talks ....while in real life continue all this war at least 2-3 weeks until Trump and Europe will get what is happening in reality in this Ukraine.

 

[Strychnine]

Any country trading with Russia now faces secondary sanctions. Not a good time to be a Russian middle-class person. Russian recruitment bonuses are now up to 5M Rubles ($58K USD), that means Russian recruitment isn't going as well as they'd like.

 

[SandisLL]

Putin still does have money to pay bonuses and all these propagandists and so on.
These old very rich rulers in Russia not likely feel any sanctions if they are in Russia.

Rich ppl still might easily purchase all this western luxurious stuff from parfumes and watches till luxurious cars.

Due to banks sanctions ofc it is difficult to purchase BMW or Mercedes in Germany for Russia.
Therefore some middle man might purchase, pay and after will have some km on odometer to sell this someone living in country where sanctions on Russia in reality doesn't work. Then another dude purchase this, might travel to Russia and sell someone " used " car, get cash or like this and this next middleman might sell this for some russian company selling " used " cars in russia.
The same approx with spare parts.

If upper middle class and rich ppl will not be able to get western brand stuff they ofc might be more disstatisfied....
Otherwise: for them easy to pay more and still get their toys....

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Ofc IF Putin will not have money to pay bonuses and for propaganda, then he might agree with peace.

Otherwise, especially because they are hiring also foreigners...doesn't looks that Putin will stop war in Ukraine.

With foreigners stuff is that they prefer to hire guys who does knows russian language but they also does have guys without such skills.

 

[SandisLL]

Employers actually aren't happy when their employees are hired for special operation but ofc will not tell this...
Recruiters and agitators prefer to " hire " normally usable guys ...

For example in normal shape, with some usable skills and ofc better if guy had served mando service term....

Like for example the same truck drivers, if he had military training and is able also to do some repairs etc alike stuff.
Not completely unusable guys.

BTW one from reasons why they are hiring old mechanics is cos they does have experience to repair soviet era technique, therefore are more productive for such tasks than youngsters.