International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[GearSolidMetal]

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Fuck off trump losers


it appears most american are pro ukraine, not pro putler.

Sounds like there's alot of volunteers for...



Sign up, or shut up.

 

[pugilistico]

Idiot you think while British people are fighting an dying he wants to play dress up? Same with Zelensky in show of support oh an MTG lap dog is doing his thing.

This is how Winston Churchill visited Washington during WW2..

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Look at the idiot on the right playing dress up in a military uniform. Doesn't he own a suit?

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Brilliant trolling.

 

[PEB]

Brilliant trolling.

Fake news I know?

 

[Strychnine]

 

[SandisLL]

Ofc I understand why Russia is paying a lot if compare with salaries in civil jobs for this special operation.
Ofc guys want to get $.
When they are getting what stuff is dumbass area, some from them are crying...regretting that had signed contract.

One thing is when they are getting that number of mines and IEDs is shocking.

Ukr de Mining orgs suppose that for full de Mining after war 10-20 years ....job ...

Both sides does have damn insane number of different mines installed....damn a lot.

Plus if to add here drones.

 

[Hog-train]

Will Europe be able to step up and fill in the gap for military aid? It's obvious the US is going to completely abandon Ukraine.

 

[SandisLL]

Will Europe be able to step up and fill in the gap for military aid? It's obvious the US is going to completely abandon Ukraine.

It depends in what kind? Financially yes, for example during covid plandemic quicky printed more than 650 b € with a glance. Plus they does have assets denominated in foreign actives, etc etc....


Military?
For example they ...missiles for Patriot ...U.S, OK Japan might have ...

All these missiles used by NASAMS are U.S production they had sold...for export.

They might for example send these only if Trump will sign re export permits.
This is cos if you purchase such weapons , you pay and get them, but for re export you will need permit from 1 st seller.

Also might purchase something and send to ukr, again if Trump will allow...

Depends from kind of weapons and ammo too.

 

[SandisLL]

European countries earlier had purchased a lot of stuff from Switzerland: different ammo from 5.45 till 35 mm caliber.. this can't be sent to ukr due to clauses in sales contracts....Switzerland will not sign re export permits.

A lot of stuff purchased from Israel and South Korea is the same: with clauses in sales contracts and not likely they will sign re export permit because Ukr does have war.

 

[Badr Hari]

Will Europe be able to step up and fill in the gap for military aid? It's obvious the US is going to completely abandon Ukraine.

Let's be honest Europe don't have a choice, they either step up and give Ukraine what's needed or they can start making the russian language an official language in all their countries. A few reasons why this is true:

1. They don't have the military to defend a russian agression, they have been fooled from the USA bases that have been there for decades during the cold war and the naive approach that Russia has given up on it's imperialistic ambitions. Let's be honest German army is nothing but a group of firefighters with guns. Put France, Britain, Turkey and Poland (none of which are really lions either) on one side, AFU is really the armed forces of UEurope

2. They thought article 5 is a real thing when in fact soon it will be nothing but a signed paper of no consequence. (I can see Trump yelling to a president of a small eastern european country "i am not going to start world war 3 for 3 million people", "you did not invest the required % of gdp in nato so you are on your own")

3. Already half of the countries in Europe are pro-Kremlin oriented and the other half have growing oppositions that are pro-Kremlin and will come in power in 4 years

I am not saying europe (ukraine) will lose this war, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that with American isolationism (which might last for more than just 4 years), this existenstial war for Ukraine will turn out to be an existential war for the European block.

 

[San Marino]

Putin has no choice but to collapse Russia....cant stop until he get's his 4 Oblasts back which will ensure Russian collapse.

Russia will not collapse. We will see on June 1st.

 

[Strychnine]

Russia bringing a new meaning to "special" forces.

Second greatest army in the world. As the narrator says "The barbarians in Isis treated their foot soldiers better."

 

[San Marino]

I've only heard from some americans about resigning, but today Trump shared a very "de-escalating" post in truth social in which he called for guess who - Zelensky to come and sign the deal. No mention of dictators or elections. Poroshenko said yesterday "I won't criticize Zelensky, in these moments we need unity as ukrainians". Zaluzhny met with him in London and gave him support as well. The whole Zelensky is unpopular or illegitimate right now is entirely false. I know you dislike him but he seems to know very well what he is doing. His behaviour at the White House was that of a bad motherfucker, very far from a clown tbf

Well, Zelensky sure is unpopular with the Trump administration and half of America.
Zelensky's behavior at the White House on Friday was completely unprofessional and unnecessary. All the issues he raised should have been done behind closed doors before he came to America. He drudged up past bullshit which is irrelevant to the deal and questioned whether US security would guarantee peace in Ukraine. If he had any doubt, he should he stayed in Ukraine. The guy needs to resign, and a better politician take his place. Zelensky is prolonging this conflict.

Trump outraged at Zelenskyy saying end of Russia-Ukraine war could be ‘very far away’

US president responds to Ukrainian president’s most recent interview, following blow-up in the Oval Office last week

www.theguardian.com

 

[San Marino]

Just more BS from you ...nothing more

So, you are saying that the fact that Zelensky had 3 opportunities to sign the minerals deal and failed is bullshit?
I suggest you read up on what happened in Ukraine and Germany prior to his trip to the US. Then again, everything I say to you, regardless of the truth, is considered bullshit.

 

[San Marino]

Using a fake quote?

What fake quote?

 

[San Marino]

The difference is that USSR was going to station their nukes in Cuba...that's quite different then a sovereign nation joining a defensive pact. I am honestly surprised NATO allowed Belarus to station Russian nukes. that should have been the NATO redline.

No, there is no difference. Ukraine joining NATO would have allowed US nuclear missiles in Ukraine.
By the way, the Cuban missile crisis was started by the US placing nuclear missiles in Turkey and Italy. That is the part that is usually left out. So, yes, the US was the aggressor, not the Soviets.

 

[San Marino]

Why do you insist on continually posting the same nonsense over and over.

Why do you insist on consistently being stupid over and over? It is only nonsense if you are stupid.

 

[San Marino]

This is how Winston Churchill visited Washington during WW2..
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...and is that suppose to make it okay? Churchill was also an idiot for dressing that way.
Both Zelensky and Churchill is/was a 'wannabes.' Neither is in the Army nor taking rounds from the enemy.

 

[SandisLL]

Let's be honest Europe don't have a choice, they either step up and give Ukraine what's needed or they can start making the russian language an official language in all their countries. A few reasons why this is true:

1. They don't have the military to defend a russian agression, they have been fooled from the USA bases that have been there for decades during the cold war and the naive approach that Russia has given up on it's imperialistic ambitions. Let's be honest German army is nothing but a group of firefighters with guns. Put France, Britain, Turkey and Poland (none of which are really lions either) on one side, AFU is really the armed forces of UEurope

2. They thought article 5 is a real thing when in fact soon it will be nothing but a signed paper of no consequence. (I can see Trump yelling to a president of a small eastern european country "i am not going to start world war 3 for 3 million people", "you did not invest the required % of gdp in nato so you are on your own")

3. Already half of the countries in Europe are pro-Kremlin oriented and the other half have growing oppositions that are pro-Kremlin and will come in power in 4 years

I am not saying europe (ukraine) will lose this war, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that with American isolationism (which might last for more than just 4 years), this existenstial war for Ukraine will turn out to be an existential war for the European block.

Yes, Putin in best case is waiting for next municipal and parliaments elections during next 3 -4 years.
If pro Kremlin oriented politicians will win, then Putin might achieve win without 1 shot fired ....plus to do nice business deals with profits.
Also if populists will win, with these Putin might easily manupulate: for example offer nice gas sales deals but with clauses! Bingo, populists will be happy that at least 1 from xxx promises they might fultfil....from promises before elections that there some economy will grow a bit...

Then again, Putin might make them pro Kremlin oriented and 0 risks to get any sanctions....etc.

Kremlin's Boris and Putin literally purchased Belarus by offering natural gas with huge discounts in 1994 th...Lukashenko immediately started on daily basis to talk how beautiful is Kremlin. Now is 2025 th and he continues the same.