International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

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https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-...ump-minerals-4d5eefcc44c9f17f330db98d81720b29

“Almost nothing in return”

SMDH

You master negotiator started publicly making concessions before negotiations even started.

Who the fuck does that?

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

I think they are trying, poorly, to hide the hands they have been told to play.

Going to be interesting to see what happens, Trump already thought he could get 50% of UKR natural resources without anymore security agreements or military aid. Zelensky knows what Trump is and that's why he is calling for a European army to be made as he knows the US is not dependable at this point. JD Vance lost all respect from his speech and Europe knows they have to step up which they should anyhow. Maybe Zelenski should talk to Germany and other Euro Nations about the natural resources if Trump is going to play games and give Euro countries a reason to help more.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

You master negotiator started publicly making concessions before negotiations even started.

Who the fuck does that?

Ya they showed their hand before negotiations even started , UKR must know by now the US doesn't have their best interest in mind and this administration is a unpredictable at best.

 

[Strychnine]

Are the minerals on the side of the border Russia already took over? I think they want to extract on the Ukrainian side after the peace deal.

I don't think that Trump is a "Well, let them have that" kind of a person. He wants it all or he'll feel it's a loss.

 

[USA!USA!]

I don't think that Trump is a "Well, let them have that" kind of a person. He wants it all or he'll feel it's a loss.

It is amazing how all the lies and death really just comes down to this. Greed. Money. Economic potential and power.

Humans are really a fucked up species. Thousands dead and millions displaced and fleeing.. because of minerals. Fucking pathetic and depressing.

 

[Strychnine]

Going to be interesting to see what happens, Trump already thought he could get 50% of UKR natural resources without anymore security agreements or military aid. Zelensky knows what Trump is and that's why he is calling for a European army to be made as he knows the US is not dependable at this point. JD Vance lost all respect from his speech and Europe knows they have to step up which they should anyhow. Maybe Zelenski should talk to Germany and other Euro Nations about the natural resources if Trump is going to play games and give Euro countries a reason to help more.

I think the U.S. is dependable.

But Trump sure as heck isn't.

 

[Strychnine]

It is amazing how all the lies and death really just comes down to this. Greed. Money. Economic potential and power.

Humans are really a fucked up species. Thousands dead and millions displaced and fleeing.. because of minerals. Fucking pathetic and depressing.

 

[Hog-train]

Got a link for that? I listened to his speech and he didnt really say that. Putin wants his 4 Oblasts that are part of Russia and he wont be getting that. Everytime Hegseth,Vance,Trump,Kellog or Rubio speak you get a different answer every time.

Ukrainian NATO membership and liberation from Russia unrealistic. Said he's just going to "end" the war AKA Russia keeps all the land and no NATO.

 

[Strychnine]

Ukrainian NATO membership and liberatin from Russia unrealistic. Said he's just going to "end" the war AKA Russia keeps all the land and no NATO.

Yeah, I think the Ukrainians might have something to say about that.

 

[Hog-train]

Yeah, I think the Ukrainians might have something to say about that.

Only way that happens is if Europe steps up.

 

[Strychnine]

Only way that happens is if Europe steps up.

Yes, that would make things much easier for Ukraine, but fighting an insurgency is what broke the Soviet Union and Ukraine would definitely wage an insurgency campaign.

 

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Interested to watch this. More and more videos of injured soldiers being sent to the front.

 

[SandisLL]

General Cavoli is the same moron who stated that the 2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive would be a success.
Anyone still quoting him or posting his videos is a fucking moron, he hasn't been right about a single thing in this war.

It was Kirby who had stated that Ukr had been provided everything ( ofc without aviation and long range missiles etc ).
Do not worry, Central europe does know how U.K both labour and tories and U.S both dems and reps had historically loved their masters in Kremlin and Israel. This reality.

Money is their God and always will be. Short term money.
Kremlin always was correct to describe anglo saxonians as short term money hungry pathologic liars. Ofc like Kremlin, with difference in word short term.

United Kindgoom is champion in history to throw their trade partners and allies under bus under the table. Hardcore traitorship since Chamberlain with loud talks.

Yanks at least sometimes are admitting that short term money for them is more worth than other things.

Of I don't blame average guys but " elite ".
" I don't care who will control some Empire, I care who will control finances. " Rotshield.

 

[curryjunkie]

I think the U.S. is dependable.

But Trump sure as heck isn't.

The US isn't widely regarded as dependable, they fucked over the Vietnamese, the Iraqis, and the afghans, as soon as trump said he would get peace in day one the writing was on the wall. Good luck getting any assistance in any future Chinese conflict..

 

[SandisLL]

Ya they showed their hand before negotiations even started , UKR must know by now the US doesn't have their best interest in mind and this administration is a unpredictable at best.

There also is blatant lying from U.S officials against europe. Not only U.S and U.K had literally threw Ukr under bus together with Xi ( we aren't idiots not to see this ).
U.S officials now are lying 24/7/365 when they are talking about ammount of assistance for Ukr where they are lying 24/365 that EU and european countries had provided lesser , not alone that U.K and U.S like Russia are 100% responsible for EU filling with refugees cos this war. Cos de facto no one, nor U.K, nor U.S nor Russia had respected Budapesht memorandam promises to respect socergeinity of Ukraine.

Ofc memorandam is toilet paper worth peace of shit while actions how U.S loved Russia were really easy to see. With such friends you do not need to have enemies. Kissinger was correct.

I dunno why Ukraine needs to join kremlinoids in NATO? They loves xxxxx excuses and loves Putin a lot .... they fear that if not Putin then someone else might come in power....more retarded and lesser predictable...
Therefore they loves Putin a lot. Xi too loves to see Putin in power. Everything according to plan. NK and Iran + Belarus too loves Putin a lot.
Fico and Orban loves Kremlin a lot.

 

[SandisLL]

In some public medias had been posted idea that Germany will supply 100 missiles for IRIS-T.
Since such supplies usually are classified I do not trust such info.

However if this is reality then it is hell for Ukraine aka Molotov Ribentropp 1939 and even a bit worse.

Smallest IRIS-T battery does have 3 or 4 launchers, might be connected 6 launchers.. Each launcher does have 8 containers with missiles.
So 1 full cycle for 1 battery is 24-48 missiles loaded in launchers.

It is literally joke or test lab if just 100 really had been supplied this month.

 

[SandisLL]

If about IRIS - T it is based to use air to air short range dogfight missiles.
They might pull very high G manevrs and does have advanced seekers and option to use in air def clusters together with other NATO compatible batteries.
While they are usable against targets like helicopters, cruise missiles and airplanes and large or medium size drones, they aren't designed to be used against small drones or ballistic missiles.
In good case will be 40 km range and 20 km ceiling [ this is range from launcher not " battery " ] plus lock after launch ability and pros that for example 8 missiles might be launched in 8 seconds or lesser. Also distributed system where launchers and KP , KC and radar might get set with range even till 9 miles between these elements.

 

[SandisLL]

Huelensky get bite from lawmaker in Marianna.
" You yet didn't had implemented wartime economy and are living in dreams ".
" We do have more than 50000 bireucrats in Ministry of Defense fit for military service in trenches and might send them today. ".
This is huge bite cos from party backing Huelensky.
This is nickname for him in Ukraine in reality. Huelsnsky and Htler ( Hitler is Putin , Huelensky zelenka with yermak and abdirstovich).

 

[SandisLL]

Mr huelensky, when you will implement wartime economy orders like U.K and U.S had in 1941 th?
They needed 1 month. We now do have 12 months in war if you didn't had get into reality.
Marianna February 2023 th.