International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

It's not real economic activity but from the government subsidizing war industry over the last year. When the war stops, this subsidized GDP disappears.
Bullshit!
You just can't accept the fact that I am right, and the information is correct. Same for other sources.
This is like @Strychnine saying that the US did not lose the war in Vietnam when all historical sources say otherwise.
Like saying Joe Biden had 100% cognitive ability while in office.
You boys are stuck in denial regarding the situation in Ukraine. That is okay, everything will come to light in due time like it did with Joe Biden.
 
I quit for a while but I'm still not convinced he's trolling. I think he really believes the crap he spins out at the same time it's like watching a car wreck you just cant help it.
According to Russian GDP, you already lost your bet mate. I'll let it ride to June 1st like we agreed. I think you are going down and staying down.
 
Davos 2025 - Ambassador Richard Grenell, President Trump's newly appointed envoy for special missions, voiced strong opposition to NATO granting Ukraine membership, citing the disproportionate financial burden on the United States. Speaking in an interview, Grenell criticized European allies for not contributing their fair share to the alliance's defense efforts, singling out nations like the Netherlands. He warned that expanding NATO's umbrella to include Ukraine without addressing these inequities could face significant backlash from the American public. Grenell stressed the importance of diplomacy over war, arguing that U.S. taxpayers should not be asked to shoulder more costs while current members fail to meet their obligations.
 
Bullshit!
You just can't accept the fact that I am right, and the information is correct. Same for other sources.
This is like @Strychnine saying that the US did not lose the war in Vietnam when all historical sources say otherwise.
Like saying Joe Biden had 100% cognitive ability while in office.
You boys are stuck in denial regarding the situation in Ukraine. That is okay, everything will come to light in due time like it did with Joe Biden.
Concession accepted
 
crying from Zelendky about nato membership lomg ago make sense only for russians, delusional ppl and ukr...
Like we all long ago didn't had to see that west doesn't trust Ukr, didn't had sold ukr any heavy weaponary 1992-2021 th etc ....and reality that realpolitik in europe is different from public walk around weasel type statements......

Ofc for public it is good russian propaganda card provided as excuse for war ....provided by zelensjy administration ofc....
 
About MAGA propaganda against europe they should be more careful.
european companies are providing approx 3.5 m jobs in U.S.
europe is best when U.S is selling their weapons and a lot of european voters are thinking that some from U.S weapons are overpriced and politicians should in such case opt to purchase cheaper weaponary ....
For example Patriot is overpriced...
Stinger too.
A lot of stuff.

Ofc due to some other reasons they are continuing to purchase ....

Will see ....
 
Rather than show the video of Russians torturing other Russians I thought I'd post the Russian reddit version from UkraineRussiaReport where Russia are the good guys and video's like this "breaks rules" and get censored.

If you want to find the video on a reddit that doesn't censor stuff where Russia looks bad it isn't hard to find.
 
Further assistance from U.S and actually some EU countries next (N.B it is about next month! in direct meaning with direct text meaning!) will look like this:

U.S had stopped financial aid...while it yet isn't about physical supplies of weapons not at all.

Trump will allow all supplies alearedy scheduled to be delivered February 2025 th.....

However if about all these money transfers, humanitarian aid etc they does want audit before next decisons.

Maybe for current Ukr administration even worse stuff will be from europe.

1. Germany will deliver 4 b € packages assigned already.. .about next stuff decision most likely decision might be possible not earlier than March 2025 th...

2. Ukraine should know that they had recieved a lot of aid from european citizens, countries, companies and financial organisations, also in form of individual donations.

There were also collective assistance plus individual assistance done by countries and municipalities etc.

Additionally grants and loans.
Sooner or later they will demand audits again and in depth...
 
For example rumours from russian PR propaganda that ukr had sold something from military aid thus far AFAIK appeard blantant lies without any real evidence....


While cases when civilian stuff from grants and loans....till accumulators, power banks etc had been sold under the table had been confirmed even by Ukr...

For example I donate power bank, doesn't matter 10€ or 1000€ worth and some bitches instead to help with this some civies who are in big trouble or soldiers ....sold under the table.

BTW, generators with really good warranty does have serial numbers.... even these from 1 kW , not alone 10 kW or 100 kW.

It is relatively painful to see stuff you had donated offered to sell for you in EU...LOL.
Some cases were....very painful.
 
BTW why Ukr doesn't agree to mobilize from 18 y.o?
In Ukr mandatory conscription service from 18 y.o- 19 y.o age was cultural norm.
1979-1988 was also even till you might get in Afganistan maybe, doesn't likes? Prison term.
USSR had used more than 160 000 mandatory military service conscripts from Ukr in Afganistan 1979-1989 in total and these were 18-20 y.o guys...
 
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If Huelensky wasn't stupid he long ago had mobilized all society. Including these behind frontline.

For example to work essential jobs ...like WW2 ....it is wartime economy....mandatory...

Also to conscript why not?

Ofc green conscripts aren't good for frontline, especially if with just 1-4 months training...I agree.

However Ukr should guard also borders with countries like Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania...

These will not attack Ukr...however are using relatively experienced pros ....
So part of these might be sent to frontline and replace with mobiks....

Really quick solution. At least a bit better...
 
Davos 2025 - Ambassador Richard Grenell, President Trump's newly appointed envoy for special missions, voiced strong opposition to NATO granting Ukraine membership, citing the disproportionate financial burden on the United States. Speaking in an interview, Grenell criticized European allies for not contributing their fair share to the alliance's defense efforts, singling out nations like the Netherlands. He warned that expanding NATO's umbrella to include Ukraine without addressing these inequities could face significant backlash from the American public. Grenell stressed the importance of diplomacy over war, arguing that U.S. taxpayers should not be asked to shoulder more costs while current members fail to meet their obligations.

This war isn't about NATO membership it's about EU membership.
 
New letter from Strelkov:

IGOR STRELKOV /letter fragment/
Of course, I was extremely worried about the news about the events of the first half of January, which I received on the 15th-16th (before that, there had been no mail for over two weeks). On the one hand, nothing unexpected happened - all the actions of recent "partners" and "friends" were predicted in advance. On the other hand, it is one thing to talk about the inevitability of a "volcanic eruption", and quite another to "get caught in it"... Analytical "foresight" is of little help here if there are no means to respond correctly and promptly to the "elements" (and I have not had and do not have anything like that, unfortunately).
So, on the main news:
- I consider the most important news to be that China has shown its readiness to comply with US sanctions against our tanker fleet (blocking 5 tankers with Russian oil in Chinese territorial waters). The fact that the Celestial Empire is far from supporting the Russian Federation in the current SMO and (at best) was ready to “benevolently tolerate” all the inconveniences associated with it for some time has been clear to me for a long time. It has also been clear for a long time that “China’s patience” in connection with the said inconveniences is either running out or has expired completely: the SMO has been going on for almost three years, and Russia’s victory (and the end of the military conflict on terms that suit Moscow) is not even on the horizon. Accordingly, Beijing is demonstrating its irritation and “transparently hinting” to Moscow that “it’s time to end it on any terms, otherwise…” How to “get out” of this wonderful situation (having only North Korea as an ally) is not clear to me. Especially considering that society is not mobilized “at all,” and is already very tired of the war and does not feel any enthusiasm for its further continuation. However, Moscow is somehow unable to leave the SMO "under any conditions" (as they already tried to do in 2022 during the so-called "Istanbul agreements"). - I think I wrote somewhere before that the situation is almost like the joke about the hunter who climbed into the bear's den: - "Kum! I caught a bear here!" - "Then drag him here!" - "I can't - he's holding me!" Kyiv will not go under "Russian conditions" (i.e. the separation from "Ukraine" of not only Crimea and Donbass, but also Zaporozhye and Kherson) now (while its front is generally strong). It is even doubtful that it will "agree to the loss" of Donbass and Crimea. But how - even if Zelensky (suddenly) agrees to "bargain" - how to "foist" on the Russians the return of the so-called "Ukraine" of the Kherson and Zaporizhia regions, already constitutionally annexed to the Russian Federation - I can't imagine. No, of course, with certain propaganda efforts, the majority (under the slogan "as long as there is no war") will "swallow" this too, but two problems remain: 1) How will the army react to this? 2) (This is most important) Who will guarantee that - having occupied the south of the said regions, the "Kyiv partners" will not immediately "spit" on these very guarantees? - Personally, I believe that this is the only way it will be and, as they say, "further everywhere". The worst thing for "conditional Moscow" is for the population not to understand (in the indicated scenario) that: a) we lost the war; b) the war, although lost, is not over "not even once". And so, in all likelihood, it will be, if we do not radically change our own (I emphasize) attitude to this very SMO and the confrontation with NATO / USA / the West as a whole. In general, sitting in the Penal Colony, it would be difficult for me to give any recommendations on how to “return the favor of the Celestial Empire” - to develop such recommendations, I need a deep and comprehensive immersion in the history and practice of interstate relations for about 15 years (and this is the “very minimum”). Unfortunately, no one will give me such an opportunity in the near future. And without further at least “friendly neutrality” of China, the continuation of large-scale military actions seems very problematic to me. Well, unless we undertake (suddenly - with a delay of 3 years) sharp, fast and (most importantly) successful “super-efforts”. Which the Kremlin categorically did not want to undertake for the past 10 years.


To be Continued...
 
This war isn't about NATO membership it's about EU membership.
No.
If Putin managed to press ukr government run away or recognize de iure that Crimea is part of Russian Federation....then if this happened in March 2022 th they had all sanctions remowed ! and might had keep seperatists in dumbass as proxy area....

Later ofc now better for russia will be to take all most important mining regions. More stuff to sell for China etc...weaker Ukraine ofc.

About EU and NATO he knew that there were not realistic chances Ukr to get IN...nor 2022 nor 2023 nor 2024 ....

So if Putin wanted ukr just prevent to join nato or eu, he easily might had just to wait till next elections in Ukr....
Due to reality that Ukr always had elected populists, who had promised more, had get win and Putin just should had then put $ on the table....

Cos we knew that all supposed militarization in Ukr was empty talks with actual de militarization continued in row 32 years with vigor.....despite empty PR talks...
Also " reforms " on paper ofc....
We were not idiots like ukr or russia might dream about.
 
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