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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

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AWilder said:
what he says has impact. he's the leader of the most powerful country on earth. So when he has a peace negotiation and says there will be "land swaps" what the fuck does that even mean? What land was contested prior to Russia's invasion of Crimea? I mean, to have this unilateral "peace negotiation" is just theater. Ukraine didn't ask for this. It's all just a show to make it look like america/trump is doing something in the hopes that european nations and supporters of ukraine will take their foot off the gas, to russia's benefit. He's not playing 4D chess, he's getting schooled at russian tic tac toe. I don't know how anyone could believe trump wants anything other than russia to win this conflict. He blames Zelensky for the war, he calls him a dictator, he praises putin at every opportunity. Every day he prolongs this conflict with half-hearted attempts to end it, is effectively a benefit to russia.
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It is a benefit short term for their 60 minutes show on Rossia1 but long term they are fucked in the ass. As much as Trump annoys us with his "putin is a great guy and wants peaceee" in reality it's been quite annyoing for the russians too seeing their officals suck so much american cock with 'hopes' that trump turns their guy lol their foreign ministry literally praised the armenia/azerbaijan deal in the white house and the entire russian public was very angry at it was seeing their country basically at the lowest point of political influence in the Caucasus in decades. Don't forget this very ridiculous trump admin made putin throw iran under the bus. American geopolitics isn't designed by presidents. Russia as it is, is an enemy to the USA. Any deal negotiated by the USA (even if good looking on paper) is a deal given to Russia by it's enemy. Don't forget that the russians thought they had won in Syria too and that the West gave up.
 
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Just listened to Trump newest press conf and he talks about Ukraine being all sorrounded by "ocean" lol. It's funny but also revealing, because he is in other words talking about the Kherson and Zaporizhia regions occupied by Russia getting back to Ukraine. The famous "Kellog plan" as they call it in Russia. He says "there will be land swapping" and "the most precious property is the property near a lake, sea or ocean". Meaning give up Kramatorsk and Slavyansk for taking back strategically important Berdyansk and Melitopol. This is a great plan for Ukraine and this time I hope they are smart and don't yell lol because there's high probability Russia doesn't agree to that to begin with.
 
About low recruitment rates % in Ukraine directly is responsible Mr Zelensky. More than just reality that foreign grants and loans are approx 70% of ukr budget income, Mr Zelensky still does have a lot of money not only to hire ukrainians, he does have enough money even to hire foreigners if he wanted not to talk about supposed xxx b € for reconstruction !!!!! but had started to pay normal money like Putin is paying and financially this month huilo zelonka doesn't have problems to pay normally.
If zelonka wanted to start pay more....like Putin is doing.
Next month europe most likely will gave lesser loans and grants for russo chinesse american colonium in ukraine.....

Had big problems to pay guys money?
Jesus, we aren't idiots not to see reality.
 
Putin had ordered to investigate why 100% of Luhansk oblastj area isn't yet liberated from occupation and therefore deNazification isn't done by 100% in Luhansk oblastj. He ordered KGB ( FSB ) to deal with possible internal enemies like saboteurs, informants and diversants in liberated oblastj and they will pay special attention to expose informants in this area.
 
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It is rumoured ( however now most likely it is reality ) that Putin had ordered General Staff to continue according to his opinions to liberate Luhansk, Donetsk, Zapirozia and Herson oblastj from illegal occupation done by ukraine.

Ofc also had ordered to increase efforts and all financing bills for small special operation will be signed at least for this year.
 
SandisLL said:
Putin had ordered to investigate why 100% of Luhansk oblastj area isn't yet liberated from occupation and therefore deNazification isn't done by 100% in Luhansk oblastj. He ordered KGB ( FSB ) to deal with possible internal enemies like saboteurs, informants and diversants in liberated oblastj and they will pay special attention to expose informants in this area.
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I saw a video this week about how some Ukraine operatives co-opted ruskie senior citizens to do some sabotage. Scammed them, than blackmailed them to do some work in return of the money. That's a first to me lol
Dunno if they returned the money, but I bet those senior citizens aren't getting pension anymore
 
SandisLL said:
It is rumoured ( however now most likely it is reality ) that Putin had ordered General Staff to continue according to his opinions to liberate Luhansk, Donetsk, Zapirozia and Herson oblastj from illegal occupation done by ukraine.

Ofc also had ordered to increase efforts and all financing bills for small special operation will be signed at least for this year.
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That's why i'm not sure the purpose of the Putin-Trump meeting . Putler has been making gains so he will have no reason to stop war and will just keep printing money and hiring meat. Hopefully Putin pisses off Pump and the U.S. will put even more crippling sanctions on because that's the only way to stop Putler.
 
TheMoa said:
So it's a conundrum of how much can Russia last on this war effort, One year? Two?
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As long as it takes, which is longer than what Ukraine can last.
TheMoa said:
Zelensky must be ready do compromise something, as the internal pressure is growing too. The just "I want peace, go away" strategy doesnt work.
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The point of Zelensky compromising anything with Russia has come and gone. Russia is wining the conflict and will take what it wants by force. The Ukranian Army continues to get smaller while the Russian Army is able to supply fresh troops to fight. Not to mention the 250,000+ Ukrainians who have deserted the ranks. Zelensky is only prolonging the inevitable.
TheMoa said:
Im not talking about fairness here, but it is what it's. Unless EU countries are ready to put boots on the ground to push back, he'll need to compromise something.
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European countries will never put boots on the ground in Ukraine. Europe and Ukraine need to accept the fact that Ukraine as we knew it back in 2022 is now gone forever. The need to come to terms with a smaller Ukraine or a Ukraine that will soon become part of Russia.
Again, had Biden (worst president in US history) not instigated this invasion by Russia, and had Ukraine not provoked Russia with a NATO membership, none of this would have happened. With the exception of Crimea in 2014, Russia has left Ukraine alone since 1992. By 2022 Russia had had enough.
 
11 August 2025
Russia has just doubled its mass production of the deadly Iskander-M ballistic missiles, sending shockwaves through NATO and raising fears of a new escalation in the Ukraine war. Capable of striking with pinpoint accuracy and evading modern air defenses, the Iskander-M is a game-changing weapon that could shift the balance of power in Eastern Europe.
 
TheMoa said:
Trump is a buffon and only want headlines. Maybe Putin offered to indicate him to the peace prize lol.
But here's the thing, Ukraine has to deal with the reality that they'll need to give up land. Yes, it's not fair.. but they dont have the ability to take the land back. They can put up some offensive and take something, but that'll means spending the scarce manpower that's already leaking in some front lines. The alternative is to keep holding in hopes of Russia's economy to collapse. China and India aren't stopping their support in buying ruskie's oil. Putin ain't stopping without something to show, that's his death.
So it's a conundrum of how much can Russia last on this war effort, One year? Two?
Zelensky must be ready do compromise something, as the internal pressure is growing too. The just "I want peace, go away" strategy doesnt work.

Im not talking about fairness here, but it is what it's. Unless EU countries are ready to put boots on the ground to push back, he'll need to compromise something. Trump seems to be more interested in making money with Russia than keep putting pressure on it, he got this commercial war with China and he's losing it (even though his sycophants are claiming wins left and right). The more he strains Russia, the more he helps China
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He's not a buffoon, he's squeezing both Russia and Ukraine to get a deal that benefits him. Not Ukraine, not Russia, but especially not Ukraine.
 
AWilder said:
He's not a buffoon, he's squeezing both Russia and Ukraine to get a deal that benefits him. Not Ukraine, not Russia, but especially not Ukraine.
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not surprising but all he really cares about is money, he wants to make a "deal" to enrich himself and the US at whatever cost....He's an economic terrorist while Putler is just a terrorist.
 
AnGrYcRoW said:
Man I hope you are at least on someone's payroll posting the shit you post
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Why would I have to be in someone's payroll?
Oh, that is right, because I don't support your point of view. Had I been supporting Ukraine, none of this would be happening.

Are you in someone's payroll for supporting Biden and Ukraine? Are you being paid for shitposting here on Sherdog?
 
San Marino said:
Why would I have to be in someone's payroll?
Oh, that is right, because I don't support your point of view. Had I been supporting Ukraine, none of this would be happening.

Are you in someone's payroll for supporting Biden and Ukraine? Are you being paid for shitposting here on Sherdog?
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Are you married to a Russian woman? man?

I used to know someone like that. He was married to a Russian woman and espoused the craziest pro Russian views.
 
TheMoa said:
I saw a video this week about how some Ukraine operatives co-opted ruskie senior citizens to do some sabotage. Scammed them, than blackmailed them to do some work in return of the money. That's a first to me lol
Dunno if they returned the money, but I bet those senior citizens aren't getting pension anymore
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Russian pensioners aren't good target group for ukr: exactly these often are using only russian language mass media, TV channels and local newspapers.

This means that they more trust Putin and propaganda. For inflation responsible were Biden, ukraine and U.K, now responsible are Trump, ukraine, U.K and EU.


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Russia does have a lot of ukr origin ppl and mixed blood ppl. These more often might be suitable to use.

Also ofc ukr might hire as informants and saboteurs . ..criminals....willing to earn $.

And ykr obiviously are paying them not doing prank stuff in social media.


Russia is large, with a lot of money hungry ppl.
Ukr ofc also might hire hackers etc.
 
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