International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[Badr Hari]

Well then why doesn't he just do it? What is he worried about? Like you said the world will do nothing.

On a civilian crowded area? It would be a terrible decision. it would risk cohesion within russian society as well, those people are so mixed family wise with every city/town in Ukraine. And you bet your ass that the world will not just sit and do nothing. Alliance aviation will hit conventionally every part of RuAF outside their old borders and Ukr could seriosuly think about blowing up to pieces an active nuclear power plant near Moscow and making life practically impossible in half of western Russia. Russians are not refraining themselves because they are tolerant humans but because they know potential consequences of such an act.

 

[San Marino]

You didn’t watch it did you? Another Marino “whoopsie”

Looks like you didn't watch it. Saw the title?
Here again:

Ukraine’s ‘Pearl Harbour’ strike on Putin ‘may have breached nuclear doctrine’​

MSN

* You never were very smart.

 

[SurferH2O]

So apparently the Ukrainians snuck a bunch of trucks into Russia and throughout Russia with these drones hidden in them. They drove these trucks to various bases throughout Russia and had them all launch their drones at the same time. Apparently, the drone operators were also smuggled into Russia and controlled from nearby. I heard many of them got caught and killed, but the damage they laid down was impressive.

Anyone crying about escalation does not live in a country currently under attack by Russia.

 

[San Marino]

He could have admitted this was a blow to Russia and a great operation by Ukraine and been done with it. Instead he is tripling down on being a complete imbecile, lol.

How is this a blow to Russia? Old Russian bombers is what is keeping the Russian Army in Ukraine? Yeah, you are an imbecile.

 

[method115]

On a civilian crowded area? It would be a terrible decision. it would risk cohesion within russian society as well, those people are so mixed family wise with every city/town in Ukraine. And you bet your ass that the world will not just sit and do nothing. Alliance aviation will hit conventionally every part of RuAF outside their old borders and Ukr could seriosuly think about blowing up to pieces an active nuclear power plant near Moscow and making life practically impossible in half of western Russia. Russians are not refraining themselves because they are tolerant humans but because they know potential consequences of such an act.

I agree 100% but that other guy seems so sure it would be no big deal. I'd love to know why he thinks Russia hasn't already done it.

 

[Streeter]

Well then why doesn't he just do it? What is he worried about? Like you said the world will do nothing.

Didn't say world would do nothing - there would be massive sanctions- which Russia has found ways to live with , and they would solidify them as Hitler level villains. That's not nothing g but Russia already sort of gets both anyway (not as bad) . But no country is going to world war 3 over it either. It's a mess there and seems to be getting worse an worse by the day. It's sad

 

[PEB]

EDIT my AI take.

 

[KnightTemplar]

No, Russia came into this conflict to keep Ukraine from joining NATO. It also came into this conflict to support the Russian ethnic minority in Eastern Ukraine who were being brutalized by the Zelensky regime. Ukraine has never really had a real democracy - it is a corrupt government.

The attack involved 4 Russian military bases, and 41 planes destroyed. Do you not think Russia has plenty of bombers parked in other locations? Again, how is destroying planes, ships, and oil refineries helping Ukraine get its lost territory? The whole point of victory for Ukraine is to recover lost territory and keep Russia from moving west. It has done neither through this attack. It will only get more innocent Ukrainian civilians killed by Russian missile strikes. The air war over Ukraine has been almost non-existent. Russia has approximately 181 bombers. That is roughly 3% of their Air Force. The United States has 141 bombers. Missiles are a lot more practical.

 

[SandisLL]

So apparently the Ukrainians snuck a bunch of trucks into Russia and throughout Russia with these drones hidden in them. They drove these trucks to various bases throughout Russia and had them all launch their drones at the same time. Apparently, the drone operators were also smuggled into Russia and controlled from nearby. I heard many of them got caught and killed, but the damage they laid down was impressive.

Anyone crying about escalation does not live in a country currently under attack by Russia.

If to know level of kleptptoracy and corruption in Ukr and Russia, they easily might had purchased trucks, containers and rent boxes, garages etc in Russia...

 

[SandisLL]

There is a bit peace for long term threat for Ukr ...
In one european country centrist oriented political party ( in general pro anglo saxononian and pro western euro oriented ) had agreed to form coalition with populists after municipal election and this is very dangerous ....cos these populists will not care who will offer discounts, china or russia etc.

 

[San Marino]

They admitted this took a year and a half to plan.

A year and a half you say? For such a low-level target. The Bin Laden raid took 4 months to plan. Looks like Americans move at a faster (smarter) way than the Ukrainians.

 

[San Marino]

I agree 100% but that other guy seems so sure it would be no big deal. I'd love to know why he thinks Russia hasn't already done it.

Russia is not going to go nuclear on Ukraine. They don't have to. There are enough conventional explosives to destroy every major city in Ukraine. Through missiles, not Russian bombers.

 

[Strychnine]

I was never in the military or logistics....but anyone worth anything will tell you wars are won and lost on logistics....if you can't feed your machines they are mere hunks of metal....Ukraine destroying refineries limits the amount of fuel Russia has to fuel their Ladas, T34s, S300s trucks, various bomber and fighter planes, etc.....Ukraine destroying refuel planes for Russian strategic bombers limits how many and how far Russia can deploy their nuclear capable bombers......

Look I get it, Russian donkeys are very capable (and I am sure you're very proud of them) but even they have their limits...

Edit:

I am shocked you're admitting Ukraine destroyed 41 planes....I guess Russia is not having its bots and puppets deny the losses...

Speaking of logistics...




Russia has to pretty much inspect everything being brought into the country now. That will slow down their supply chain considerably.

 

[SandisLL]

BTW this week very big shit might happen in EU for Ukr ....if they will give more power for Ralf.
This is his first given name..he does have 2 nd he is using mainly but he doesn't hide any bare thing ...

He is very competent and disciplined, polite and does have very good rhetoric and debates skills. He is very good here.

His geo political opinions in general aren't bad for Ukr or U.S etc....with one expection.
He wants EU to use 0 tariffs for fertilizers import from Belarus, Russia and 0 sanctions about fertilizers supplies from Belarus and Russia.

Dunno will he get post or no.
Especially after his opinions about tariffs in EU for import from U.S.
He afforded to tell harsh reality about cocky U.S here but also was insane when told that E.U EP and EC might vote this and he will respect. While he might agree with 0 tariffs too.

For ukr idea was to re install import quotas and tariffs aka 2021 th stuff however good thing that they are thinking that they will again increase financial support for Ukr. More than they had calculated in february 2025 th.

 

[Strychnine]

Estimates are around $7 Billion in damage to those planes.

 

[SandisLL]

Didn't say world would do nothing - there would be massive sanctions- which Russia has found ways to live with , and they would solidify them as Hitler level villains. That's not nothing g but Russia already sort of gets both anyway (not as bad) . But no country is going to world war 3 over it either. It's a mess there and seems to be getting worse an worse by the day. It's sad

Sure but there might appear some accounting errors.

Do you know that with warhead easily to hide in household fridge might be enough for 10 or 20 Hirosimas? I we will start to talk like drunk Medvedev we too might tell a lot. It is time for us to talk about real physics in drunk Medvedev mode.

We do have thermonuclear warheads suitable to be used for even small cruise missiles. Russia, please drop nuke boys not to do shit like delirium talks for pussies in mom basements.

I don't even talk about bla bla bla vodka delirium. I want to see how Russia will defeat Mayak spent nuclear fuel reprocessing plant from even 1978 th model stuff attacks. They aleready had 25 M - 29 M speed plus decoys.
Obdirshnik.

We also might forget somewhere some old warheads 10-200-300 kT and Luhansk might get turned into moon crater with 300-500 lbs toy from 1980 ies ....easy peasy.

Alcoholics had forget that not only they does have nukes to threat pussies in puffy cubicles...maybe even today somewhere in Moscow some household fridge is ticking tick tack, tick tack....kuku...

Not only russians might threat pussies in c8bicles with nukes...kuku kids.
Kuku. Drop nuke please. Do not talk and taste...boring noise.

 

[pseto223]

A year and a half you say? For such a low-level target. The Bin Laden raid took 4 months to plan. Looks like Americans move at a faster (smarter) way than the Ukrainians.

Russia is not going to go nuclear on Ukraine. They don't have to. There are enough conventional explosives to destroy every major city in Ukraine. Through missiles, not Russian bombers.

Never go full Medvedev, dude. Never.

 

[PEB]

So apparently the Ukrainians snuck a bunch of trucks into Russia and throughout Russia with these drones hidden in them. They drove these trucks to various bases throughout Russia and had them all launch their drones at the same time. Apparently, the drone operators were also smuggled into Russia and controlled from nearby. I heard many of them got caught and killed, but the damage they laid down was impressive.

Anyone crying about escalation does not live in a country currently under attack by Russia.

Wrong explaining it is an air force and Army veteran.

 

[Ludwig von Mises]

A year and a half you say? For such a low-level target. The Bin Laden raid took 4 months to plan. Looks like Americans move at a faster (smarter) way than the Ukrainians.

It's not about the target. It's about the reconnaissance, the intelligence and smoothness of execution at a relatively low cost in comparison to the damages done and the psychological effect this will have on the internal politics of the Russian power structure. Being able to hit a target 2500 km inside Russia is impressive any way you slice it.

Russia and the FSB/KGB must demonstrate that they're capable of similar operations inside Ukraine where they can touch government officials, military high command and other sneaky methods of sabotage which do big damage at a low cost. If they can't do this then they're clearly behind the curve of CIA/ Mi6 intelligence.

The war of attrition for small villages is important too and has its place in this war and so do the hypersonic delivery systems/ nuclear capabilities, but Russia must demonstrate that they're capable of sneaky, low cost special ops inside Ukraine- similar to what Ukraine pulled off yesterday in Russia.

Not only that but Russia must tighten up its defenses and not let something like this happen ever again- I don't care if it's a year from now.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Looks like you didn't watch it. Saw the title?
Here again:

Ukraine’s ‘Pearl Harbour’ strike on Putin ‘may have breached nuclear doctrine’​

MSN

* You never were very smart.

Oh I saw it and then I clicked play and listened to her only talk about how it wasn’t like Pearl Harbor. That’s how I know you did another whoopsie and need to go change your pants.

I didn’t know you were a big fan of MSN. That’s interesting