International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

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Things are going according to plan ...as always ..

Looks like Russian people are not 'that' stupid. Are you really getting upwards of a million dollars if you're 90+% likely to die? Game theory calculation is quite easy ....which the Russians have started to intuitively figure out...
 
There is ofc some thing : possible ceasefire and so called " peace talks " ( ofc before next war in Ukraine ) ....

Lavrov's trolls farms and Co are spreading idea that war had started in order to prevent NATO expansion...
Nice bullshit, ukr didn't had any chance in short term to get in NATO with .... Biden's administration and Germany plus Hungary and Slovakia & Luxembourg.

Move for idiots reading mass media and taking this as real reason.

Trump had clear signals that he might most likely even press Ukr to reject option to join NATO.
This literally doesn't makes sense cos before big war west even didn't had agreed to sell ukr heavy weapons. Literally grey buffer for NATO and EU.
 
Putin get further: he does have some advantage vs Ukr cos more ammo and arty, more drones and missiles, more mines and he might hire guys.

Lavrov's office does wants that U.S recognize Crimea, Kherson, Zaporozia, Donetsk and Luhansk oblastjs as part of Russian Federation de Iure.

Ofc Trump and even current Senate will reject such demands...without doubts.
They ofc doesn't gave a f about ukr but to sign such papers ofc no....

Lavrov's pushing term No1 today is to press international community to recognize on paper annexed by russia areas as de Iure part of russian federation.
As first demand...
 
Looks that most likely in real life outcome was that Benny had transfered U.S scheduled for decommisioning PAC-2 missiles batch ( number of missiles isn't 100% disclosed at all in reality ) and " additional equipment and military purpose goods without re export clause.
Where Trump had sent this batch Benny doesn't knows.

Benny does have a lot of other old stuff scheduled for decommisioning. Might be repeated multiple times.
 
DEVILsSON said:


Things are going according to plan ...as always ..

Looks like Russian people are not 'that' stupid. Are you really getting upwards of a million dollars if you're 90+% likely to die? Game theory calculation is quite easy ....which the Russians have started to intuitively figure out...
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Unfortunately Putin is hiring also foreigners...a lot...and they are not mobiks or after busification.
It rumoured that in one case hired pros had killed their commander because he didn't had delivered $ and RUB bank notes in time. As punishment they had killed him.
They just had sent new commander who maybe will know that cash too should be paid in time.
For oitin ofc more valuable is to make 0 sense about 1 money hungry guy processed and to keep batch with money hungry aggressive guys with military training and successful real combat experience under belt. Therefore easier to send them next commander...

Such kind of hired guys too happens... usable.
 


Turns out that Russian Sarmat missiles can't fly without Ukrainian tech.

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Terrible footage of civilian woman being hit in the daylight coming back from the market in Gorlovka. Woman eventually died and they reveal she was a vocal supporter of Russia but seeing anyone die like that is a catastrophe. Rus telegram claim Ukr used cluster munitions for the attack. Ukr denies and puts the blame on Pushilin. As a response Rus is now hitting Odessa. You can play the accusation game all you want, reality is this has become a prolonged war and the longer it goes the dirtier it will become. What I cannot grasp is how do they allow people to still live normally in Gorlovka for Gods sake. I know some people are just stubborn but boths sides really suck at forced evacuation. Gorlovka has been used as a punch bag by Ukr tbh for years now and is so close to the front line, civilians normally shouldn't be there.
 


Russians pushing a village hard and it's costing them.




Baba Yaga doing Baba Yaga things.
 
There thing called ukrainian nation doesn't exist, there isn't thing called ukrainian language. Putin. March 2022 th.
Country Ukraine does not exist.
We will correct mistakes.
Medvedev. March 2022 th.

We will eliminate Moldova from face of earth.
D. Medvedev, Deputy secretary of security council of russian federation.
August 2022 th.
 
USA!USA! said:
War is hell. This is happening on both sides btw

The elites in charge of this war should be jailed when its all said and done - so much lost life.. and for what?? What the fuck are these people dying for??

It's all insane and unwarranted. Put the fucking leaders on the frontlines and see how long the war lasts.
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Putin's Russian Empire isn't going to rebuild itself.
 
Ruthless Ryan said:
Hopefully this continues, hard to believe they have been doing meat wave assaults for 3 years and yet they still line up one after another to absorb bullets even after seeing the many roads of death. I think they have come to a point even the dumbest Russians have to know even with their big signing bonus's they will never receive it or die anyhow. Word one way or another has to get back to the motherland of what's really happening....not sure their is another country on earth that can have this happen to their people on the scale it is happening in Russia.
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How naive. Do you think Russian conscripts have a choice? You die in Ukraine, or you die in Russia. Russia will kill them for sure in Russia. In Ukraine they at least have a chance. What do you think happened to WWII Russian (Soviet) youth who refused to fight? First wave sent out was fully armed. Second wave went without weapons and picked up the weapons of their dead comrades. Right behind that were the Soviet Security Police making sure no one was retreating. If they were, they would be shot on the spot. I would not doubt that Ukraine is doing the same with their soldiers in one way or another. It is just not being reported. Ukrainian and Russians have a lot in common. Guess who will run out of soldiers first? Other countries? Yes. Go back and look at the Iran/Iraq war. Iran had children roll themselves across minefields to blow up mines and clear a way for the soldiers to cross.
 
DEVILsSON said:


Things are going according to plan ...as always ..

Looks like Russian people are not 'that' stupid. Are you really getting upwards of a million dollars if you're 90+% likely to die? Game theory calculation is quite easy ....which the Russians have started to intuitively figure out...
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What plan?
Why do Russians need to sign up? Who is this source you are using?
Conscript or draft. No choice. You are going into the Russian Army and to the fight in Ukraine. Period. Is this a new concept for you and others?
The same thing is happening in Ukraine.
 
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@Possum Jenkins

On July 1, the Ukrainian parliament voted for a new law on “The Fundamentals of Domestic and Foreign Policy” that dropped the goal of seeking NATO membership.

Mearsheimer is a fraud.



Ukraine Closes Road to NATO Membership

On July 1, the Ukrainian parliament voted for a new law on “The Fundamentals of Domestic and Foreign Policy” that dropped the goal of seeking NATO membership. At 8:00 pm on July 1, only 50 deputies from the Stability and Reforms coalition were present and yet 259 “voted” in favor, showing the...
jamestown.org jamestown.org
 
LangfordBarrow said:
Putin's Russian Empire isn't going to rebuild itself.
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Why is that?
Rebuild itself from what? Has it been destroyed? Do you think this is the first time in Russian history that the country has been affected by war?
...and what about Ukraine rebuilding itself? Only with western help. Neither country has come even close to Japan and Germany after WWII.
 
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