International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15



I truly hope Putin isn't stupid enough to actually use nukes in Ukraine. I'd hate for Ukraine to lose Pokrovsk before winter freezes the battle lines. It seems like it's a mad dash to grab as much territory as both sides can while they can still maneuver with armor and IFV's
 
Russia will not use nuclear weapons in Ukraine because then it will lose even the covert support that some countries give it.
Besides, I am sure that the Russian population will not approve of this because the brotherhood of nations is not propaganda or a joke - there are many interethnic marriages between Russians and Ukrainians. + common ancestors.
 
Wow...he really went full regard there...

He's probably the type to post non ironically on r/MovingToNorthKorea and r/USSR.
Well, one from reasons why satanic Hitler had offered to attack USSR was Holodomor in Ukraine ....with this USSR had reduced their manpower resources awailable for mobilization. Seriously BTW.

Next : purges 1937/1938 th, mainly against minorities ...

Why this was very important? A lot from these victims were hardcore Kremlin's supporters and had real war experience from World War and war in Russia 1918-1921 th. So with real battle experience and motivated to support Kremlin and ruler.
Despite not young these really might had been good mobilization resource from casual roles till some commanders level etc, usable for supplies etc.
Then Uncle Stalin had also nice Molotov Ribentropp pact with secret protocols and threw bombers and conscripts on Finland. Where during approx 4 months they had lost damn a lot of tanks and at least 300000 KIA cases...

Then Hitler obviously most likely decided that he needs to take USSR in his hands.
Due to attack direction that Leningrad and Moscow routes and route till Baku had been supposed via donbas....
If we drop out propaganda and think about economy it is Donbas coal mining region and Baku oilfields....
Resources. ..
 
Russia will not use nuclear weapons in Ukraine because then it will lose even the covert support that some countries give it.
Besides, I am sure that the Russian population will not approve of this because the brotherhood of nations is not propaganda or a joke - there are many interethnic marriages between Russians and Ukrainians. + common ancestors.
They are thinking that Ukraine is Russia and should be liberated and rusification should be done mandatory + incorporated de facto in Russia.
They does wants Ukraine but without ukrainians... however oligarchs will not invest if nuke will be used and....China and India in open text told that they will not allow...
 


I truly hope Putin isn't stupid enough to actually use nukes in Ukraine. I'd hate for Ukraine to lose Pokrovsk before winter freezes the battle lines. It seems like it's a mad dash to grab as much territory as both sidto annex es can while they can still maneuver with armor and IFV's

With current Biden's administration realpolitics ( not nice talks ) Russia does have potential annex all oblastjs Putin had annexed on paper de facto. Till January.

There are claims that not only there aren't permits to strike matushka too deeply, there are also delays with SAM supplies and arty ammunition U.S doesn't supply sufficiently...despite they does have huge stockpiles ...at least these from Cold War era....
 
While I don't blame about all this only loud empty talking western politicians.
Current Ukr lawmakers and Zelensky administration with Ermak doesn't looks that still have clue what stuff is war and wartime economy. They are living in dreams.

• dream that everyone in Ukraine does have easy internet access and electricity....
• dream about economy in their dreams.

Due strikes on energy infrastructure ( transfer lines , transformators, power plants etc ) ukr does have problems with electricity supplies for civies and civilian businesses.

Solution from Zelensky administration: to increase excise tax for fuel like diesel fuel, gasoline and propane, butane ....
BTW used also as fuel for electricity generators.....
It is beauty to kill with soft method....slowly.
 
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There is realpolitk that Ukraine is 2 nd tier country because looks that most likely doesn't have nukes and bio/ ciemos weapons. Literally like Germany it is province in big game ..

In order to slow down russian attack
potential ukr does need to get mines, distance minelaying stuff in order to lay mines, air defense and to be allowed to strike deeply with provided weapons.
While ofc as 2 nd tier country they not likely will get long range missiles....at least they might reduce usage of gliding bombs if they will be able to strike installations 150- 250 km from frontline. This will reduce russia"s ability to use helicopters and gliding bombs.
While till elections most likely is better to keep dreamers dreaming..
 
Seems to be a clusterfuck in the Ukrainian government.
ON WEDNESDAY UKRAINE’S parliament convened to approve an unexpected wave of resignations. It was the start of President Volodymyr Zelensky’s first major wartime shake up, a merry-go-round of promotions and dispatches to irrelevance. The president had wanted a quick show to bamboozle his way to the headlines. The result, which saw even members of his own party mocking the proceedings, and three of the seven votes failing, hinted at increasing dysfunction within the government.

Those lined up for dismissal included heavyweights. Two deputy prime ministers, Iryna Vereschuk and Olga Stefanishyna. The justice minister, Denys Maliuska. The charismatic, ponytailed head of the ministry of strategic industries, Oleksandr Kamyshin. Environment minister, Ruslan Strilets, and the head of the State Property Fund, Vitalii Koval. Perhaps the best known of those departing is Dmytro Kuleba, the long-time foreign minister. Explaining his reshuffle, Mr Zelensky said the country needed a “new structure.” He will not have missed the massive drop in government popularity registered by polls in recent months. With elections cancelled during the war, this was one of the only levers he could pull.

Tensions between the president and his foreign minister have been growing since the start of full-scale invasion in 2022. Before then, the two men’s careers dovetailed. Mr Zelensky pulled the nerdy diplomat from relative obscurity in 2019, first making him deputy prime minister, then foreign minister. A sharp communicator with rounded glasses—more Harry Potter than John Lennon—and Vivienne Westwood ties, Mr Kuleba became respected among foreign diplomats in Kyiv and in the West. But in the end his sophisticated diplomacy did not always align with the raw and emotional rhetoric of his boss.

Given the centralisation that has already happened during wartime, the ministerial changes are unlikely to have a serious impact—either on the government or the front lines in eastern Ukraine, which are looking increasingly precarious. Several sources, however, describe the changes as a further consolidation of power around Volodymyr Zelensky’s influential chief of staff Andriy Yermak. “They had loyal people around them,” says Yaroslav Zhelezhnyk, an opposition MP. “But they now have even more loyal ones.”

 
Interesting a day after government started to go after a business that was funding a number of noted propaganda pushers Putin open to talks with Kyiv.

"Russia's president has walked back comments that Ukraine's Kursk incursion makes peace talks impossible. Meanwhile, the IAEA chief says one of the Zaporizhzhia plant's towers requires demolition. DW has the latest."

It may not have hurt that apparently during a recent conference Chinese rep. not Xi met in with Putin in private likely giving him no choice. He has been reduced to reporting to staff not the Chinese President.


 
Interesting a day after government started to go after a business that was funding a number of noted propaganda pushers Putin open to talks with Kyiv.

"Russia's president has walked back comments that Ukraine's Kursk incursion makes peace talks impossible. Meanwhile, the IAEA chief says one of the Zaporizhzhia plant's towers requires demolition. DW has the latest."

It may not have hurt that apparently during a recent conference Chinese rep. not Xi met in with Putin in private likely giving him no choice. He has been reduced to reporting to staff not the Chinese President.



The ONLY way for him to get back in to Xi's good graces now is to give up some land. Russia has been reduced to isolationism because of what Pres. Putin has done. Now he'll have to beg and scrape to keep any support going all the while his country is being robbed by those who give him even a modicum of aid.
 
The ONLY way for him to get back in to Xi's good graces now is to give up some land. Russia has been reduced to isolationism because of what Pres. Putin has done. Now he'll have to beg and scrape to keep any support going all the while his country is being robbed by those who give him even a modicum of aid.
maybe the situation in russia is worse than it appears, looks like its 50/50 the democrats keep the presidency, so he cant rely on the orange fucknut to cut off aid, he cant stop drone attacks in russia, oil and gas sector must be seriously hurting, the economy is dogshit and costing him a fortune to prop up, conscripts take time and money to train not to mention equip, or they surrender en masse and are pretty much useless, mobilisation would be seriously unpopular,and seriously costly, his armor isnt an infinite supply any more, same for air defense, theres probably mutterings about him not standing near windows, he knows he has to negotiate soon or risk losing big time. taking a few towns at massive human and material cost seems to be the only thing he can do . chinas probably starting to distance itself like he farted in a lift. maybe he thinks its time to try and keep what hes occupying or settle for donbas and crimea.
 
Russia will not use nuclear weapons in Ukraine because then it will lose even the covert support that some countries give it.
Besides, I am sure that the Russian population will not approve of this because the brotherhood of nations is not propaganda or a joke - there are many interethnic marriages between Russians and Ukrainians. + common ancestors.
I think back in January of 2022 or December of 2021 I wrote here that Putin will not start a war with Ukraine because of same reason.
 
There is realpolitk that Ukraine is 2 nd tier country because looks that most likely doesn't have nukes and bio/ ciemos weapons. Literally like Germany it is province in big game ..

In order to slow down russian attack
potential ukr does need to get mines, distance minelaying stuff in order to lay mines, air defense and to be allowed to strike deeply with provided weapons.
While ofc as 2 nd tier country they not likely will get long range missiles....at least they might reduce usage of gliding bombs if they will be able to strike installations 150- 250 km from frontline. This will reduce russia"s ability to use helicopters and gliding bombs.
While till elections most likely is better to keep dreamers dreaming..
 
maybe the situation in russia is worse than it appears, looks like its 50/50 the democrats keep the presidency, so he cant rely on the orange fucknut to cut off aid, he cant stop drone attacks in russia, oil and gas sector must be seriously hurting, the economy is dogshit and costing him a fortune to prop up, conscripts take time and money to train not to mention equip, or they surrender en masse and are pretty much useless, mobilisation would be seriously unpopular,and seriously costly, his armor isnt an infinite supply any more, same for air defense, theres probably mutterings about him not standing near windows, he knows he has to negotiate soon or risk losing big time. taking a few towns at massive human and material cost seems to be the only thing he can do . chinas probably starting to distance itself like he farted in a lift. maybe he thinks its time to try and keep what hes occupying or settle for donbas and crimea.

I think him relying on Trump to help if he wins is stupid as hell anyways. Trump changes his stance on things daily. There's no guarantee even what Trump says today will be what he does in office.
 
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