International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[AWilder]

statue of Prig and his nazi commander.

 

[Rational Poster]

I've seen some rumors that ~$300B in Russian state funds tied up in Western Banks to be liquidated.

I bet you can buy a lot of 155mm shells with that.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Looks like Republicans are sending a very clear message to all potential future allies and partners IF Or an is correct.

Trump will not give a penny to Ukraine - Hungary PM Orban

"He will not give a penny" and the Russia-Ukraine war will end, claims Viktor Orban after meeting Donald Trump.

www.bbc.co.uk

For me, if Trump abandoned Ukraine, that's a good place for the collapse of the West to start.

Europe certainly needs to distance itself from the unreliable US in this event.

 

[SandisLL]

Sadly I noticed maybe intentional tactique used by Russia in order easier to control captured villages after occupation with lesser threats to have resistance movement after capture.

Looks that in some cases they wit intent are advancing slowly ....evacuation in village is announced and .... after some week or couple of weeks in village most likely will remain only Kremlin's supporters or ppl who doesn't care.
So instead to have village with 500 inhabitants you after such process might get village with 100 inhabitants and from these maybe will be 85 putionoids and 15 who doesn't care. So you might conduct referendum in village without fear or trouble.

 

[GhostZ06]

Looks like Republicans are sending a very clear message to all potential future allies and partners IF Or an is correct.

Trump will not give a penny to Ukraine - Hungary PM Orban

"He will not give a penny" and the Russia-Ukraine war will end, claims Viktor Orban after meeting Donald Trump.

www.bbc.co.uk

For me, if Trump abandoned Ukraine, that's a good place for the collapse of the West to start.

Europe certainly needs to distance itself from the unreliable US in this event.

so we'd Ditch the EU for fucking hungry?

 

[SandisLL]

Sadly I noticed maybe intentional tactique used by Russia in order easier to control captured villages after occupation with lesser threats to have resistance movement after capture.

Looks that in some cases they wit intent are advancing slowly ....evacuation in village is announced and .... after some week or couple of weeks in village most likely will remain only Kremlin's supporters or ppl who doesn't care.
So instead to have village with 500 inhabitants you after such process might get village with 100 inhabitants and from these maybe will be 85 putionoids and 15 who doesn't care. So you might conduct referendum in village without fear or t

 

[Limbo Pete]

so we'd Ditch the EU for fucking hungry?

Trump would sell us all up the river for $50 and a pat on the back

 

[SandisLL]

so we'd Ditch the EU for fucking hungry?

EU countries might use individual assistsnce bills and not collective assistance bills...then Orban can't do any bare thing. Therefore most likely he agreed to sign 50 b collective program...cos Ukr had to get such bill anyway!
EK/EP might block only collective funded bill not bill made by member country on individual basis...

And from U.S Ukr literally doesn't needs penny, weapons and ammo etc....
Yoy can use even old weapon while can't fight with cash note vs opponent in trenches....

While this 50 b € bill is money...to keep Ukr from financial collapse....not physical weapons or ammo.

 

[PEB]

so we'd Ditch the EU for fucking hungry?

The dispots need to hang together.

 

[PEB]

Looks like Republicans are sending a very clear message to all potential future allies and partners IF Or an is correct.

Trump will not give a penny to Ukraine - Hungary PM Orban

"He will not give a penny" and the Russia-Ukraine war will end, claims Viktor Orban after meeting Donald Trump.

www.bbc.co.uk

For me, if Trump abandoned Ukraine, that's a good place for the collapse of the West to start.

Europe certainly needs to distance itself from the unreliable US in this event.

I start by taxing the hell out of pro Trump companies like Tesla.

 

[SandisLL]

There is next collective bill on the table: this is 20 b € bill for weapons and ammo etc.
Since we know that Orban and Fico will block this, we have 0 hope on this bill get passed ....
Therefore countries are providing such kind of assistance bills on individual basis...and it takes more time and slower process....however these are real weapons and ammunition. It isn't this 50 b€ bill it is on top of this....like 50 b + a + b + c etc.....

 

[SandisLL]

For example Finland and Estonia and Lithuania, Chech Republic and Poland , Netherlands, Denmark and Belgium will sign such individual bills, Macron wants to get this signed and looks that Germany too...

While Finland, all 3 Baltic countries and Chech Republic can't afford to deplete their actual stockpiles....instead they should increase...
Therefore for example 1,2 b € additional bill from Estonia in reality means that IF they will manage to purchase ....then Ukr will get this...not at cost of depleting their own stockpile.....

 

[Anewt]

Looks like Republicans are sending a very clear message to all potential future allies and partners IF Or an is correct.

Trump will not give a penny to Ukraine - Hungary PM Orban

"He will not give a penny" and the Russia-Ukraine war will end, claims Viktor Orban after meeting Donald Trump.

www.bbc.co.uk

For me, if Trump abandoned Ukraine, that's a good place for the collapse of the West to start.

Europe certainly needs to distance itself from the unreliable US in this event.

You think Trump abandoning Ukraine would be the start of the collapse of the West?


The " Start " ? Reaaaaallly? Not the past 50 years of global militarisation? Not the reckless environmental damage theft bribery invasions assassinations wars drones bombings increased military expenditure starvation pharmaceutical testing etc etc etc etc etc etc...


It'll be .... Trump..... riight

 

[shinkyoku]

Trump would sell us all up the river for $50 and a pat on the back

No! He would not hold out for that. He would settle for $5

 

[SandisLL]

No! He would not hold out for that. He would settle for $5

I think no one in Ukr or europe hopes on U.S.
It isn't expected to get anything from them....including paid supplies btw are with risk in future..

No one will be kurd No2 or kurd No3 etc anymore.

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Funny that Ukr now deployed for frontline Abrams despite they obiviously are too heavy for soil... like to show all world real battlefield capacity .. 4 tanks looks that are done ... while in this sector they managed to repel attack....

Trust me, ukrainians casuals wery " highly " appreciate so huge U.S assistance like 31 main battle tank for 1000 miles frontline...

 

[Strychnine]

so we'd Ditch the EU for fucking hungry?

You can't put that past Trump. He'd do it, no question.

 

[ferrisjso]

You think Trump abandoning Ukraine would be the start of the collapse of the West?


The " Start " ? Reaaaaallly? Not the past 50 years of global militarisation? Not the reckless environmental damage theft bribery invasions assassinations wars drones bombings increased military expenditure starvation pharmaceutical testing etc etc etc etc etc etc...


It'll be .... Trump..... riight

When I brought up the fact that climate change(and Russia being a petrol state) keeps me up at night they actually were mocking me. Thinking it's hillarious that one would be worried about that instead of their stupid anti Russian conspiracy theories.

They really don't get the concept of how making your planet unhabitable for your species upsets people. It really confuses them.

One way you can tell who someone is is to ask them what they think is the problem with the world. Capitalist dems will say Trump and capitalist republicans will say the border. It's just so obscenly sad.

 

[Rod1]

The " Start " ? Reaaaaallly? Not the past 50 years of global militarisation? Not the reckless environmental damage theft bribery invasions assassinations wars drones bombings increased military expenditure starvation pharmaceutical testing etc etc etc etc etc etc...

Things have improved a lot since the Cold War ended.

It'll be .... Trump..... riight

Yes, Trump.

 

[Anewt]

Things have improved a lot since the Cold War ended.



Yes, Trump.

You think the west's collapse will be more to do with Trump.....

Than the invasions? The corruption? The bombings and drones? The wars? The sanctions?


A awful lot of bad shit has happened since the Cold War. And it's continues along that path.

It's like blaming Biden for the collapse of the West... but doing it pre-emptively for Trump.

Seems silly to me.

A lot of stupid decisions have put us to where collapse is possible

 

[Limbo Pete]

When I brought up the fact that climate change(and Russia being a petrol state) keeps me up at night they actually were mocking me. Thinking it's hillarious that one would be worried about that instead of their stupid anti Russian conspiracy theories.

They really don't get the concept of how making your planet unhabitable for your species upsets people. It really confuses them.

One way you can tell who someone is is to ask them what they think is the problem with the world. Capitalist dems will say Trump and capitalist republicans will say the border. It's just so obscenly sad.

People mock you for being an apologist ass lol
You literally "don't support democracy" and whine about people pointing out Russia is an autocratic mafia state
The only reason you claim to not be capitalist -despite living in America and freeloading off your parents capitalist wage earning- is that you are lazy