International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V14

[grimballer]

and has nothing to do with what we talk about.
When cant defend lets deflect and change the subject.

"Peace loving Russia trains attacks on its neighbors...
Its just in good fun and means nothing" - Dimballer

Now go back to screaming about mainstream media while linking to RT and TASS.

of course it does, youre just too oblivious to it.

all this is pretty much the result of western arrogance and incompetence.

if westerners (nato) wasn't hostile towards russia, especially after the fall of soviet union, none of this would be happening

 

[grimballer]

He has to be a paid shill... I wonder which region of Russia he's posting from.

yes, yes everybody who doesn't parrot western pro nato talking points is a "paid shill"

so clever and original!

 

[SandisLL]

of course it does, youre just too oblivious to it.

all this is pretty much the result of western arrogance and incompetence.

if westerners (nato) wasn't hostile towards russia, especially after the fall of soviet union, none of this would be happening

Classic Serbian liar.
How we might know that Serbian or Russian is lying?
Answer is ; he is talking. This is 100% correct answer btw.

Kremlin had milked Lend lease and after 4 years declared former allies as their enemies. Soon managed to do proxy war vs recent allies in Korea.
After crappy Serbia get first loan transfer from bad west, they had started to kill ppl In former Yugoslavia.

Hostile to Russian liars west had paid Belarus, Ukraine and Kazahstan in order to achieve that crappy liars Russians will get their nukes back.
Outcome for Ukraine we now see.
Lukashenko is Kremlin's best friend and Kazahstan is thus far protected from annexion by Xi not western pussies...


Lie further and make me laugh.

 

[SandisLL]

The protection levels today were...
Xi had told China does have business interests in Kazahstan.
Russia had been told in Pakistan under the table that Azerbaijan is part of Muslim World and MBS under the table most likely had confirmed this ( it is de facto OPEC countries ). Therefore future supposed world hegemon had opted to invade Ukraine.
Dream about Russian World.
Sadly yeah, they does have plebs easy to brainwash. Especially in remote areas and with resources.
Ukraine according to some estimates does have lithium resources and Russia today is lithium importer.
They also are importing erbium and europium from comrade Xi.
Cos they doesn't have such resources....
Beauty Chinesse vassal.

While unfortunately for Ukraine Russia is supported by Iran and Belarus + North Korea and vice versa.
Also by MAGA team in U.S reps etc.....

 

[SandisLL]

From one point west really might be blamed for delayed and looks that with intent reduced supplies for Ukraine.
For example if Putin delivers to Donbas approx 900 more or less modern tanks and approx 400 T-54/T-55 tanks and to insist on counter offensive if west had delivered not more than 70 Leopard 2 OLD models and 14 Challengers without Air support alone is .....idiots game how to loss.
From other point Ukraine might be asked WHY they had reduced their active main battle tanks actual stockpile from approx 4180 main battle tanks till lesser than 900 main battle tanks ....and even these on paper. Let's left nice PR talks, IF Russia didn't had donated more than 500 tanks and Poland didn't had donated 350 main battle tanks...Ukraine today had been steamrolled in 2022 th.

 

[SandisLL]

Ukraine had destroyed at least 1000 MANPAD systems as " useless " and after this are calling president Duda as bad .....after they cos bad president Duda had for free get batch with new Piorun launchers.
To blame polish conservatives from country first in this world supplied Ukraine with main battle tanks and heavy weapons and for free....

 

[LeonardoBjj]

NATO rebukes Russia for withdrawing from post-Cold War treaty; Kyiv slams talk of 2024 elections
Holly Ellyatt

It’s “irresponsible” to talk of holding elections in wartime, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Monday amid discussions on whether to hold a vote in March 2024.

“We all understand that now, in wartime, when there are so many challenges, it is absolutely irresponsible to throw the topic of elections into society in a lighthearted and playful way,” Zelenskyy said in his nightly address.

There has been some talk around whether Ukraine, which is operating under martial law, should hold a presidential vote next spring.

Kyiv wants to demonstrate its commitment to democratic processes as it looks to join the EU, but there are also deep concerns that a political distraction is the last thing Ukraine needs right now as its fight against Russia hangs in the balance, with little overall progress in retaking territory.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/07/ukr...st-news-on-russia-and-the-war-in-ukraine.html

 

[grimballer]

NATO rebukes Russia for withdrawing from post-Cold War treaty; Kyiv slams talk of 2024 elections
Holly Ellyatt

It’s “irresponsible” to talk of holding elections in wartime, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Monday amid discussions on whether to hold a vote in March 2024.

“We all understand that now, in wartime, when there are so many challenges, it is absolutely irresponsible to throw the topic of elections into society in a lighthearted and playful way,” Zelenskyy said in his nightly address.

There has been some talk around whether Ukraine, which is operating under martial law, should hold a presidential vote next spring.

Kyiv wants to demonstrate its commitment to democratic processes as it looks to join the EU, but there are also deep concerns that a political distraction is the last thing Ukraine needs right now as its fight against Russia hangs in the balance, with little overall progress in retaking territory.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/07/ukr...st-news-on-russia-and-the-war-in-ukraine.html

"ukraine is a democracy"

 

[SandisLL]

Elections might be good idea if there wasn't modern warfare.
To make elections legit they does need observers and supervisors from multiple countries, right to vote anonymously etc..
Imagine well known in public gathering areas like voting stations( points ) and bunches with civilians in frontline trenches.
Also electronic elections here sadly aren't solution...
All citizens are eligible to vote, even refugees and ppl without access to internet.
Otherwise I had supported such idea unless huge risk that voting points might be shelled and damn a lot of civilians might had been killed.

 

[grimballer]

Classic Serbian liar.
How we might know that Serbian or Russian is lying?
Answer is ; he is talking. This is 100% correct answer btw.

Kremlin had milked Lend lease and after 4 years declared former allies as their enemies. Soon managed to do proxy war vs recent allies in Korea.
After crappy Serbia get first loan transfer from bad west, they had started to kill ppl In former Yugoslavia.

Hostile to Russian liars west had paid Belarus, Ukraine and Kazahstan in order to achieve that crappy liars Russians will get their nukes back.
Outcome for Ukraine we now see.
Lukashenko is Kremlin's best friend and Kazahstan is thus far protected from annexion by Xi not western pussies...


Lie further and make me laugh.

actually the opposite happened.

westerners engages in predatory lending with countries going through hard economic times.

then they start to meddle in that country's politics and next thing you know there's crisis and conflict.

in yugoslavia they backed nationalists to break up the country and absorb them all in eu/nato as vassal states.

in ukraine they tried the same thing, but when ukraine president refused he was removed in a western backed coup.

 

[SandisLL]

Russia had violated airspace with aircraft without transponders. All 3 countries are NATO members and 2 also Eurozone members.
France and U.K most likely will sent to Ukr cruise missiles with range approx 500-600 km. Despite crying from Germany, Austria and Hungary.

 

[GhostZ06]

The South Korean Armed Forces have identified three types of SRBMs (Short-Range Ballistic Missiles) that are likely being shipped to Russia: the KN-23, KN-24, and the KN-25, the latter of which is referred to as a "super-large caliber" MLRS (Multiple Launch Rocket System) but is categorized by South Korea as a ballistic missile system due to its capabilities.

"The Korea Herald" reported on November 2, 2023, that North Korea is suspected of having provided 122mm rockets and 152mm artillery shells, both of which are compatible with Russian military equipment currently in use.

An official statement from Seoul disclosed that approximately 2,000 containers have been transported to Russia via the Rajin Port since August 2023. The volume of the munitions is considerable: if the containers were filled with 122mm rockets, the total would exceed 200,000 rounds; if with 152mm artillery shells, the number would surpass 1 million rounds.

These revelations have not only raised eyebrows in international circles but also posed significant implications for the balance of power in the Ukrainian conflict. The delivery of such a large cache of munitions could signal a deepening of the military cooperation between North Korea and Russia.

The KPA are sending SRBMs....

i wonder if this will push South korea to send arms.


https://www.armyrecognition.com/def...o_support_military_operations_in_ukraine.html

 

[AWilder]

"ukraine is a democracy"

lol

 

[SandisLL]

actually the opposite happened.

westerners engages in predatory lending with countries going through hard economic times.

then they start to meddle in that country's politics and next thing you know there's crisis and conflict.

in yugoslavia they backed nationalists to break up the country and absorb them all in eu/nato as vassal states.

in ukraine they tried the same thing, but when ukraine president refused he was removed in a western backed coup.

Continue to earn your monthly paycheck my Serbian friend.
Your puppy had been " removed " after he didn't had fulfilled his duties 8 months in row after his attempt to change constitution had failed. My little Belgrade regime and genocide masters supporter.....
Money should be earned anyway and you are earning for a living here.

 

[SandisLL]

In some border crossing points in Poland some kind like small blockade for import from Ukraine had started as small demo. If we remember that socialism regime in Poland had to fall down because trade unions then we might guess Ukraine's future.
Thanks to God they are allowing trucks etc to travel from Poland to Ukraine.

 

[PEB]

Ukraine special forces went to Sudan to attack Wagner forces wow.

 

[SandisLL]

If trade unions will negotiate with businesses in Poland they are capable to impose total blockade for Ukr goods transit and import. However they doesn't looks that are interested in any kind of blockade for transport TO Ukraine.

 

[SandisLL]

In order to block Ukr fake " transit " import in one border crossing point are used approx 900 heavy duty trucks....
It is real " beauty ".

 

[Orgasmo]

There seems to be some power struggle in the upper echelons of Ukrainian leadership. The counter offensive didn't work out, but some officials do not want to recognize the stalemate.

This will turn into a frozen conflict in a year or two. Any major push from either side is simply too costly given the presence of drones, artillery and ATGMs.

 

[SandisLL]

There seems to be some power struggle in the upper echelons of Ukrainian leadership. The counter offensive didn't work out, but some officials do not want to recognize the stalemate.

This will turn into a frozen conflict in a year or two. Any major push from either side is simply too costly given the presence of drones, artillery and ATGMs.

Who had assumed that it might work and nor west nor China wanted this to happen.
I had posted in January 2023 th that with supplies Ukraine is getting IN BEST case MAYBE might be enough to hold Frontline.
Nothing more and Ukr are supplied according to such flowchart....also ofc we should get that for west and east they are just Kurds No2 and Russia is friend needed to calm down a bit. Like drunk friend a bit aggressive in pub nothing more here.
Otherwise supplies to Ukr had been more rapid, without very impactful delays and considerably more generous.
Nope...