International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V14

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Ruthless Ryan said:
true story, UKR might as well forget about any offense unless it's low risk which is unlikely. Need manpower to build strong defensive lines the way Russia did when they knew offensive was coming.
Putler still needs to take back all annexed regions before he will even consider peace talks and I'm sure UKR knows this. Make Russia pay a huge price for every meter gained is what they need to do now.
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Yes. Hitler told that special operation is going as planned and it's goals aren't changed.
....this for rus public in russia.

This means :
to install pro Kremlin oriented government in Ukraine ( deNazification ), to deMilitarize Ukraine , to annex de facto Zaporozia, Kherson, Luhansk, Donetsk oblastj and physically incorporate these in Russian federation.

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While untold in direct text truth is that sooner or later Kremlin wants All Ukraine.
Moldova too.
" Odessa is Russian city "...
" Ukraine isn't country and ukrainians aren't nation ". Putin.
" We will eliminate Moldova from face of earth " sooner or later. Medvedev.
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Ukraine long ago should had produced and accumulated a lot of mines and to build damn a lot of defensive lines .....
 
Darkballs said:
Glad you've come around to admitting your fuhrer's actual plan.

Which is why all calls to cede territory to russia now, are dishonest and cowardly. In order to close those gaps, Putin needs to control not only ALL of Ukraine; but Poland, Lithuania, Georgia (already done), Estonia, Moldova, Latvia, Uzbekistan, and parts of Kazakstan.

Giving him Crimea and the Donbas don't achieve these goals. So why would Putin stop there? By your own admission, he's justified in a continued invasion because the "existential threat" is still there.

And ignoring the idiocy of claiming that modern Ukraine posed an existential threat of invading Russia, who else around the world gets to use such shitty logic? Can Germany make the same claim and invade Poland tomorrow? Can Greece fire missiles across the Bosphorus next week? If not, explain your hypocrisy.
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Putin in reality wants even more.
As bare minimum to re establish Warshaw block completely.
Like in cold war and yeah....with tanks in Berlin.
" USSR can't exist without Warshaw block....
Yuri Andropov...

Additionally Putin and Patrushev wants to form Axis with Iran and North Korea in order to press west via these etc...
And also to impact crude oil etc prices even more...

Also he needs to control Armenia because this will gave him de facto land border with Iran...
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While more radical nationalists wants to control all europe, at least all Germany and Benilux countries....
Physically...
 
BTW Putin partially is starting re establish Warshaw block.
When all Ukraine will be given to Putin, Orban will be happy...
then definitely will be friendly exercises in Hungary and deNazification of Austria.
because Putin literally repeats Hitler's textbook ...arguments, coal mining areas, annexation of Austria....
Get it.
Ukraine is Suddetenland No2 nothing less. 1938 th....
 
Orban told that he wants to continue purchase russian nuclear fuel for power plants, natural gas, crude oil and fertilisers etc....and that sanctions should have expections..
That isn't worth to support Ukr, instead to negotiate with Putin ...
 
Blayt7hh said:


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~1:15 shows the Russian ship loaded with rockets, shells and Iranian drones exploding like an atomic bomb. Shrapnel from the ship was found all over the city. Holy crap Ukraine is really making them pay
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the country with no navy controls the black sea, imagine what they will do when they have the capabilities to control the skies.
 
Denter said:
Yeah but there was a draft going at that same time and a significant number of Ukrainians volunteered at the beginning of the war. Just the number of amputees would indicate that casualties are higher than 350k. Hard to get a good estimate on wounded but the overall losses are probably closer to half a million.
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For this war number of amputees isn't clear indicator due to very intensive usage of anti infantry mines and small IEDs....also wire traps by using hand grenades ....
Additionally minelying is done also by using cluster ammo : mines dispressed with MRLS missiles ...Grad, Uragan...
These often doesn't kill immediately..
Butterfly small mine usually just damages one leg...but heavily.
 
then there is financing stuff.
no one knows how much money Ukr will get in january because looks that only in february EU will decide about supposed 50 b bill.
also macro financial assitance bill ( another instrument ) too isn't signed for january portion...
This usually was ~ 1,5 b each month in form of money transfer...

Ukr is starting to worry....
 
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Lukashenko admits that inflation in Belarus does exists and had ordered to increase production of vegetables.
Told that will not attack Ukraine but is concerned that Ukraine might invade Belarus.
 
SandisLL said:
Orban told that he wants to continue purchase russian nuclear fuel for power plants, natural gas, crude oil and fertilisers etc....and that sanctions should have expections..
That isn't worth to support Ukr, instead to negotiate with Putin ...
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Question is can the EU get rid or Orban? He clearly isnt on the same page as the rest and they should look for an avenue to sack him as he is no different then Lukashenko.
 
Ruthless Ryan said:
Question is can the EU get rid or Orban? He clearly isnt on the same page as the rest and they should look for an avenue to sack him as he is no different then Lukashenko.
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Yes, however it will take a lot of time.
Ukraine doesn't have time.

Orban before invasion even had signed letter of intent with Rosatom that he wants to make contract about new next russian power reactor construction in Hungary.

Also cos Hungary doesn't have EUR ECB doesn't cares much what he is doing ....

It is very bad for EU and Ukraine that Hungary does have Orban .....hungarians are not bad ppl, however Orban yeah....is more close to Lukashenko than to EU.
 
lsa said:
This is what the liberated city Marinka looks like now. I am happy the Russians saved it from all the evil nazis.

I am sure more cities cant wait to be liberated.

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It's disgusting to look at that and thinking just a couple years a ago people were living simple lives not hurting anyone . That's just one settlement how many more have the terrorists laid to waste just like this?
Just a special military operation of course.
 
Ruthless Ryan said:
It's disgusting to look at that and thinking just a couple years a ago people were living simple lives not hurting anyone . That's just one settlement how many more have the terrorists laid to waste just like this?
Just a special military operation of course.
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Putin wants to rebuild this all for russian taxpayers money after war. ...
While average taxpayer in russia never had been in this city and never will visit this . ....
 
AWilder said:
the country with no navy controls the black sea, imagine what they will do when they have the capabilities to control the skies.
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That was a huge success, not only the ship but it seemed to be full of weapons as by the massive explosions that went on. I guess Putler will have to send some cruise missiles into apt buildings to retaliate.
 
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