International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

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San Marino said:
Why should I? 97% of this thread is already doing that.

Ukraine has already lost this conflict. They will realize it in another year or two.
Read up on Americans in Vietnam and Iraq. Add to that the shortage of replacements Ukraine is currently facing.
Crying about it won't give Ukraine a victory.
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Sure thing, buddy, you're definitely being forced to play devil's advocate for the villains lmao
All the people hoping and praying for Ukraine to defeat their imperialist adversary are laying it on way too thick. How about we give Russia some air time to talk about their perspective on kidnapping thousands of children? And while we're at it, you know... I don't think the fans have ever been very fair to Voldemort.
 
Ruthless Ryan said:
And don’t forget about the civil war.
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Which Civil War? The American Civil War? No, it is still in my memory. The Ukrainian Army could learn a lot about that war. They will lose this conflict just like the Confederates. For the same reasons.
 
San Marino said:
Which Civil War? The American Civil War? No, it is still in my memory. The Ukrainian Army could learn a lot about that war. They will lose this conflict just like the Confederates. For the same reasons.
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You gotta make up your mind here, dude. You claim one second that Ukraine is pulling an America-In-Vietnam, but then with your next breath compare their situation to the Confederacy. Now, both of those comparisons are nonsensical, but they are also very different. So how about you just pick one and we'll go from there.
 
Limbo Pete said:
How about we give Russia some air time to talk about their perspective on kidnapping thousands of children?
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...and what is the west doing about that problem?
I'm sure if Russia wins in Ukraine, the west will care even less about Ukrainian women and children.
We have hundreds of little boys and girls being kidnapped in Africa. Is the west doing anything about that?
People are dying of hunger in North Korea, China, and India, is the west doing anything about that?
Somehow you seem to think that Ukrainian children are more valuable than children from other countries.
 
Limbo Pete said:
You claim one second that Ukraine is pulling an America-In-Vietnam, but then with your next breath compare their situation to the Confederacy. Now, both of those comparisons are nonsensical, but they are also very different. So how about you just pick one and we'll go from there.
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Actually, they both apply to Ukraine. It is amazing that you as a history major fail to see that.
 
San Marino said:
...and what is the west doing about that problem?
I'm sure if Russia wins in Ukraine, the west will care even less about Ukrainian women and children.
We have hundreds of little boys and girls being kidnapped in Africa. Is the west doing anything about that?
People are dying of hunger in North Korea, China, and India, is the west doing anything about that?
Somehow you seem to think that Ukrainian children are more valuable than children from other countries.
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Well, what the west is doing to help them thwart Russian trafficking of their children is... defeat the Russian imperialism that is trying to conquer and occupy their country. It's Russian occupation that is facilitating the trafficking of Ukrainians, so that's what needs to, uh, stop.
 
San Marino said:
...and what is the west doing about that problem?
I'm sure if Russia wins in Ukraine, the west will care even less about Ukrainian women and children.
We have hundreds of little boys and girls being kidnapped in Africa. Is the west doing anything about that?
People are dying of hunger in North Korea, China, and India, is the west doing anything about that?
Somehow you seem to think that Ukrainian children are more valuable than children from other countries.
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Nice spin
 
San Marino said:
...and what is the west doing about that problem?
I'm sure if Russia wins in Ukraine, the west will care even less about Ukrainian women and children.
We have hundreds of little boys and girls being kidnapped in Africa. Is the west doing anything about that?
People are dying of hunger in North Korea, China, and India, is the west doing anything about that?
Somehow you seem to think that Ukrainian children are more valuable than children from other countries.
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They don't give a flying fuck about Ukrainian children.

They give a shit about profits, and the MI complex has been making lots of profits so all is good.
 
Limbo Pete said:
Well, what the west is doing to help them thwart Russian trafficking of their children is... defeat the Russian imperialism that is trying to conquer and occupy their country. It's Russian occupation that is facilitating the trafficking of Ukrainians, so that's what needs to, uh, stop.
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Are you pretending the west gives a shit about the trafficking of children? That's cute lmao
 
Rholk said:
Don't forget about the biolabs bro
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I'm not sure what biolabs has to do with the west not caring about trafficked children. I assume you think you're making some clever comment, kinda like when autistic people smile to themselves for no reason.
 
PEDS Help me Post said:
They don't give a flying fuck about Ukrainian children.

They give a shit about profits, and the MI complex has been making lots of profits so all is good.
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The primary benefit of helping Ukraine is that the West can defeat one of their adversaries without even actually fighting. Russia was #1 or #2 military threats to the US and Europe. Now they'll be a 2nd rate power for decades.

It is in America's interests for Russia to be defeated.
 
Hog-train said:
The primary benefit of helping Ukraine is that the West can defeat one of their adversaries without even actually fighting. Russia was #1 or #2 military threats to the US and Europe. Now they'll be a 2nd rate power for decades.

It is in America's interests for Russia to be defeated.
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Ahh... that's weird. There's a bunch of Americans in here acting like this was an unprovoked war on Russia's part. So you're saying that's an outright lie and that this war is really about American protecting it's hegemony?
 
PEDS Help me Post said:
Are you pretending the west gives a shit about the trafficking of children? That's cute lmao
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And yet, the West is helping Ukraine fight against it.
I'm sure Ukraine stays up at night thinking well, the West is helping us fight for our existence, but they don't really love us so whatever
 
PEDS Help me Post said:
Ahh... that's weird. There's a bunch of Americans in here acting like this was an unprovoked war on Russia's part. So you're saying that's an outright lie and that this war is really about American protecting it's hegemony?
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It is an unprovoked war by Russia. It's the right thing to do to help Ukraine and it helps US interests. Two things can be true at once.
 
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