International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

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San Marino said:
The Clintons are assuming Ukraine will win. If Russia wins, they will stop giving two-shits about Ukrainian civilians. Funny how that works.
For herself, Hillary Clinton never fails to disappoint. Why is this woman not in prison?
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Yea it's crazy...why would they think that...? I mean Russia is already rationing gas but that's a feint as usual...10D chess...

She's not in prison because she's not a complete R......and what she has done has not been enough to indict her for any crime....

So far her greatest crime has been running her government email account through a private server like Ivanka Trump......
 
San Marino said:
The Clintons are assuming Ukraine will win. If Russia wins, they will stop giving two-shits about Ukrainian civilians. Funny how that works.
For herself, Hillary Clinton never fails to disappoint. Why is this woman not in prison?
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there will be no winner. Just a cease fire with land being turned over and/or independent as per Minsk accords. But Kiev and the wester half of country will need to be rebuilt and then given a fresh course of democracy (aka lessons in lgbtq+ and combating disinformation)
 
cottagecheesefan said:
there will be no winner. Just a cease fire with land being turned over and/or independent as per Minsk accords. But Kiev and the wester half of country will need to be rebuilt and then given a fresh course of democracy (aka lessons in lgbtq+ and combating disinformation)
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You're probably about a year out of date on that one.

There isn't a chance Ukraine cedes any land to Russia, and clearly land won't be ceded the other way - nor is anybody asking for that to happen.

Russia either gets driven back completely, or Ukraine loses the war.

Kinda that simple.

The former is far more likely than the latter, as Russia really isn't fighting for a whole lot of purpose at this point. Pure stubbornness.
 
San Marino said:
I would not be so sure.
After what Ukraine has put Russia through. Ukraine needs to win, or it is doomed.
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poland just cut off funding and arming. EU otherwise doing nothing and US support starting to be like, “what next?”. Biden is losing this issue and trump will flat out drop it. Zelensky is drowning, as Poland says.

just look at Afghanistan, Biden had no problem just dropping everything and leaving the most disastrous withdrawal of all history.

Can easily see that happening in Ukraine and Biden trying to take credit for finally getting out of Ukraine or some Shit
 
Russia's most successful general is in exile wooing African warlords....up until he falls ill of a mysterious illness (polonium poisoning)....
 
cottagecheesefan said:
poland just cut off funding and arming. EU otherwise doing nothing and US support starting to be like, “what next?”. Biden is losing this issue and trump will flat out drop it. Zelensky is drowning, as Poland says.

just look at Afghanistan, Biden had no problem just dropping everything and leaving the most disastrous withdrawal of all history.

Can easily see that happening in Ukraine and Biden trying to take credit for finally getting out of Ukraine or some Shit
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Common bro this is some next level alternative facts...

I literally posted an article stating Polish PM Duda doesn't think the squabble over grain will affect their relationship with President Zelenskyy or Ukraine.

President Biden didn't just withdraw for no reason from Afghanistan. Biden followed through on a deal/treaty negotiated by Trump. There was no other workable alternative. It could have been done a bit better but whether it happened when it did or two weeks later, it would still have happened. It was probably the right move too. Why should Americans defend Afghanis when they had no will to fight?

Trump giving Ukraine to Russia is a sure bet. On that we agree. This is also why I would never support Trump or Vivek for that matter.

Biden is not going to give away Ukraine to Russia. It's not happening. President Biden just finally approved sending ATACAMS.

Russia is rationing gas. Ukraine is breaching Surovikin lines. Ukraine is getting ATACAMS. Ukraine is getting Abram tanks. Biden just hosted Zelenskyy at the WH....why would Biden abandon Ukraine now?
 
DEVILsSON said:
Common bro this is some next level alternative facts...

I literally posted an article stating Polish PM Duda doesn't think the squabble over grain will affect their relationship with President Zelenskyy or Ukraine.

President Biden didn't just withdraw for no reason from Afghanistan. Biden followed through on a deal/treaty negotiated by Trump. There was no other workable alternative. It could have been done a bit better but whether it happened when it did or two weeks later, it would still have happened. It was probably the right move too. Why should Americans defend Afghanis when they had no will to fight?

Trump giving Ukraine to Russia is a sure bet. On that we agree. This is also why I would never support Trump or Vivek for that matter.

Biden is not going to give away Ukraine to Russia. It's not happening. President Biden just finally approved sending ATACAMS.

Russia is rationing gas. Ukraine is breaching Surovikin lines. Ukraine is getting ATACAMS. Ukraine is getting Abram tanks. Biden just hosted Zelenskyy at the WH....why would Biden abandon Ukraine now?
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Wait until the Russia lovers find out that the pentagon exempted the Ukraine spending from a government shut down. Their little hearts will be broken.
 
DEVILsSON said:
Common bro this is some next level alternative facts...

I literally posted an article stating Polish PM Duda doesn't think the squabble over grain will affect their relationship with President Zelenskyy or Ukraine.

President Biden didn't just withdraw for no reason from Afghanistan. Biden followed through on a deal/treaty negotiated by Trump. There was no other workable alternative. It could have been done a bit better but whether it happened when it did or two weeks later, it would still have happened. It was probably the right move too. Why should Americans defend Afghanis when they had no will to fight?

Trump giving Ukraine to Russia is a sure bet. On that we agree. This is also why I would never support Trump or Vivek for that matter.

Biden is not going to give away Ukraine to Russia. It's not happening. President Biden just finally approved sending ATACAMS.

Russia is rationing gas. Ukraine is breaching Surovikin lines. Ukraine is getting ATACAMS. Ukraine is getting Abram tanks. Biden just hosted Zelenskyy at the WH....why would Biden abandon Ukraine now?
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is this not a NYT article? What alternative facts did I say? Is Poland not cutting the supply?

 
DEVILsSON said:
PM Duda has clarified he was misquoted. This is in regards to Poland ordering their own arms. These weapons were for Polish use only. These weapons were never intended for Ukrainian use.
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got a link to that retraction headline? I just checked NYT, doesn’t seem to have been updated with correction
 
Darkballs said:
Suggestion for the mods:

Maybe we should just shitcan troll threads rather than move them to legitimate ones.

That way threads like this don't get derailed into retarded discussions about spirit cooking.

Just a thought.
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Yeah I dont understand wtf happened here. The Russian Black Sea Fleet is getting hammered and half the posts are something about how Hillary is bad and someone who was Obamas cook something? GTFO here.

Strychnine said:


Pres. Zelensky tells Trump to put up or shut up.
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This is why the MAGA Muppets are all rooting for Russia. That and they seem to want to be cucked by tyrants now. Who would have ever thought that would be the case with the far right..
 
fungi said:
Why was Russia povoked to invade by NATO?

I'll answer that for you.
Because the Ukrainian territories must be cleansed/depopulated, as those territories have been sold to blackrock...

P.s. rebuilding anything in a warzone is the oldest money laundering scam in the book.
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I know exactly how to end that war. Inform Putin and the world the USA is going to go all in on fossil fuel production to dump the price completely, or Russia can be Russia, Ukraine autonomous, but cannot join NATO, and Donbass in the same status as Ukraine. Let the people of the region decide from there.
 
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