International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

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Denter said:
Their old MiGs (however few they have) I'm assuming can't do this because the radar sucks?
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They have a lot of updated Su-30s and su-35s....plus mig-31 which will be very very hard to kill. Some mig-29s are modern, but not a lot(have not seen a lot Russian ones in combat).

F-16s will level the playing field a little bit. Aim-120s will defiantly force the VAKS to change tactics especially seeing Aim-120s are capable of hitting mig-31.i wont add in F-16s are really good at SEAD which will allow Ukraine air-force to use AGM-88 to its fullest since a lot of features aren't able to be used.



We previously speculated that basic HARM functionality could be relatively crudely implemented on any one of Ukraine’s combat aircraft types by leveraging a federated interface, such as an e-tablet. As long as an appropriate pylon could be furnished, from which to hang the missile, this approach could theoretically bypass the aircraft’s existing Soviet-era weapons interface. Then, even possibly via a Bluetooth-like connection, the pilot could operate the missile from the cockpit. But even that may not be necessary in order to use a HARM in at least its most basic of modes.

The original HARM is associated with three main modes of operation, although it’s not immediately clear whether all versions (AGM-88A to D) offered all modes, and later versions of the missile certainly introduced new modes and expanded the capabilities within existing modes.

Editor’s note: This is a general overview only. There are complexities to the HARM’s functionality and employment beyond the basic mode descriptions and they can vary based on what generation of the weapon is being used, what platform is employing it, and what tactics are being used. This is really not important for the objective of this article.

First is the Self-Protect mode, in which HARM is fired by an aircraft once it detects a threat. Typically, the launch aircraft would be flying near a hostile air defense network when a ground radar powers up, perhaps even locking on to it or potentially other friendly aircraft. The aircraft would normally be alerted to the hostile radar signal by an onboard threat receiver of some kind, which could be a more basic radar warning receiver or specialized equipment like the F-16’s HARM Targeting System (HTS) or a highly integrated modern ‘digital’ defensive suite.
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https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...kly-put-agm-88-anti-radiation-missiles-to-use

Harm can only be used in basically toilet bowl mode. lol



Now....if they get Gripens with meteor....that will be a different story. Besides if you compare Gripen next to Su-30, you'll notice it was specifically designed to counter Su's
 
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Mig 31 does have relatively high effective radar reflection cross section and isn't maneurable at all, it is long range high altitude interceptor, some are converted to launch air to ground missiles or to carry recon equippment.
It is basically more modern Mig 25...
 
SandisLL said:
Mig 31 does have relatively high effective radar reflection cross section and isn't maneurable at all, it is long range high altitude interceptor, some are converted to launch air to ground missiles or to carry recon equippment.
It is basically more modern Mig 25...
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yeah its basically a brick with wings.
 
GhostZ06 said:
yeah its basically a brick with wings.
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The only way how russia thus far had used Mig -31 against Ukraine was:
To attach missiles, fligt in high altitude and with high speed more than 100 miles from Ukr borders...not closer and then...launch missiles.

They are very expensive and vulnerable even vs USSR era S-300 models SAM versions etc stuff.
 
San Marino said:
No more ridiculous than a frontal assault on Russian defensive positions manned by machinegun, snipers, concertina wire, artillery, mines and trenches. How well did that work in WWI. You are the historian.
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Yeah, this isn't WW1 lol
And what Ukrainians are doing is objectively working, even if it is very difficult. What wouldn't work is suicidal D-Day style airborne drop.
Aye carumba
 
grimballer said:
bad news for kiev comedian and his irrational war effort against russia

https://www.rt.com/news/583320-poland-stops-weapons-ukraine/

his backers are backing off...

soon he's gonna be by himself, but at that point he's most likely gonna be hiding in some mansion he bought in the west with all the money stole
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ah the serbian clown show is back.
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Rational Poster said:
Obviously Poland has supplied a great deal for a country of their size but I feel this will likely get smoothed out with time and I'm sure every other country on earth can pick up the slack on any temporary shortfalls. Not like their reluctance is about a weariness, but it's more about legitimate political grievances with Ukraine and their own security concerns being on Russia's list of places to conquer eventually.

The Nordic countries on their own are talking about giving like 60+ F-16s atm.
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There is a big misconception that Poland is not sending any more military aid due to the recent row with grain. That's not true and just a poorly timed announcement.

Poland is still going to send their Krab howitzers and other arms that were already promised. But they are tapped out after that and will not send more because they don't have any more to give. They will still allow transport through their country of aid from others as well as allow storage and training.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66873495
 
Blayt7hh said:
Yeah well he doesn’t seem to think very highly of women so it’s not that big a surprise. Notice how he’s like”she owns a house there” and not “she has family and friends there”
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You really couldn't figure out that it's probably because her family aren't there? My father in law was the last one there and he left a month before the war started and obviously hasn't been back.
 
Suing Poland seemed like a bold choice over the grain deal. Figured the cut off was coming once that story broke.
 
Limbo Pete said:
Inb4 @San Marino tries to convince us this is all a horrible idea and they should abandon their current offensive strategy for a massive airborne drop, or just concede the initiative entirely to the Russians for.... reasons.
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you nailed it. Everytime Ukraine has gains the dorks come out of the woodwork claiming that Ukraine needs to negotiate. They don't support russia, it's just coincidental that their concerns are only to benefit russia... oh yeah and some fake concern over civilians.
 
Hog-train said:
There is a big misconception that Poland is not sending any more military aid due to the recent row with grain. That's not true and just a poorly timed announcement.

Poland is still going to send their Krab howitzers and other arms that were already promised. But they are tapped out after that and will not send more because they don't have any more to give. They will still allow transport through their country of aid from others as well as allow storage and training.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66873495
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For all the fans of Pres. Putin...



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Limbo Pete said:
Inb4 @San Marino tries to convince us this is all a horrible idea and they should abandon their current offensive strategy for a massive airborne drop, or just concede the initiative entirely to the Russians for.... reasons.
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with what?


only people who are developing a stealth Transport is the united states, but it would be specifically for SOF.
 
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