International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V12

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Cole train said:
Yea i saw it, i just didnt see anything about rusich quitting for time being
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aha yeah that has not to my knowledge hit the news.
But Rusich has not been much in the news.
A little in Norway IIRC because of the leader.
But that was in the beginning of the war.
The Russian Nazis has not drawn much headlines in the Nordics what I have seen. A few articles and thats pretty much it.
 
lsa said:
aha yeah that has not to my knowledge hit the news.
But Rusich has not been much in the news.
A little in Norway IIRC because of the leader.
But that was in the beginning of the war.
The Russian Nazis has not drawn much headlines in the Nordics what I have seen. A few articles and thats pretty much it.
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Tbf volunteer groups have not had much attention in this conflict

Conserning russia wagner stole all media attention
 
I heard from a few online they said the reason why Russia keeps pulling out 19040's and early 50's tanks is due to concern over the possible need of newer hardware if a full blown war breaks out. Russia has a massive number of tanks the issue is if a full blown war with NATO where to happen Russia would have a difficult time protecting the vast area of Russia.
 
PEB said:
I heard from a few online they said the reason why Russia keeps pulling out 19040's and early 50's tanks is due to concern over the possible need of newer hardware if a full blown war breaks out. Russia has a massive number of tanks the issue is if a full blown war with NATO where to happen Russia would have a difficult time protecting the vast area of Russia.
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Possible need yes. But not from a full blown war with NATO, but for small wars with unhappy provinces inside RF or with other neighboring countries they keep bullying and squeezing for centuries.
 
PEB said:
I heard from a few online they said the reason why Russia keeps pulling out 19040's and early 50's tanks is due to concern over the possible need of newer hardware if a full blown war breaks out. Russia has a massive number of tanks the issue is if a full blown war with NATO where to happen Russia would have a difficult time protecting the vast area of Russia.
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Online who? Random assholes?
Sounds like great logic..

Lets worry about a potential war in the future instead of focusing on the war we are in. Let me guess the REAL Russian army is with the newer hardware.
And IF they showed up they would take over Ukraine in 3 days.

And why would a full blown war with NATO happen?
I dont see any sign so far also NATO would have to gather troops to enter what ever country. Aint happening.
IF NATO was to go to war with Russia it will start with total air superior and Russias tanks would mean dick.
 
lsa said:
Online who? Random assholes?
Sounds like great logic..

Lets worry about a potential war in the future instead of focusing on the war we are in. Let me guess the REAL Russian army is with the newer hardware.
And IF they showed up they would take over Ukraine in 3 days.

And why would a full blown war with NATO happen?
I dont see any sign so far also NATO would have to gather troops to enter what ever country. Aint happening.
IF NATO was to go to war with Russia it will start with total air superior and Russias tanks would mean dick.
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No one in the West has been interested in invading Russia, atleast since they have had nukes.
It's a bit of copium from the pro russia crowd.
Russia has a shitload of old, dated equipment from the Soviet era, and quite a bit less modern stuff.
That's the reason we're seeing them pull out old equipment.
Especially their latest projects have never seen meaningful production (e.g. T14, Terminators, SU-57).
They're prestige/PR projects, aimed at convincing people they're still a superpower capable of going head to head with the US tech.
 
Well.
For example these T-54 and T-55 does have 100 mm high pressure long barrel gun. T-10 : 122mm .

It is usable in the same manner as NATO 105 mm high pressure rifled gun.....used for tanks etc.

Yeah, it is inferiour vs 120 mm high pressure tank gun vs tank in distance till some 2000 meters.

For indirect fire to shell troops in distance >2000 m till some 8500m ....these old shit will be better ....especially cos west does have mountains with ammo for 105 mm tank guns...
 
Cole train said:
Tbf volunteer groups have not had much attention in this conflict

Conserning russia wagner stole all media attention
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Prigozin and Utkin, like Kadirov doesn't have any real chance to be elected as President of Russia.
Even if in drunk condition after some bottles consumed, Medvedev does have more chances.
 
Ukraine is continuing to do the same mistake: thinking that they are something very important.
Appears that they again will attempt to use Biden's administration and Urzula to apply pressure cos grain deal vs. Slovakia, Poland, Romania and Hungary.

Maybe Ukraine really might cease exist as country and Lvov will have russian flag?
Cos, sorry, if you fuck up relationships with Poland, then vs Lithuania too.
Slovakia and Poland are very important for Ukr existence today and Bulgaria is one from impactful ammunition suppliers for USSR era weapons.

Ukr maybe wants to get negotiate with Putin till next war?
 
lsa said:
Online who? Random assholes?
Sounds like great logic..

Lets worry about a potential war in the future instead of focusing on the war we are in. Let me guess the REAL Russian army is with the newer hardware.
And IF they showed up they would take over Ukraine in 3 days.

And why would a full blown war with NATO happen?
I dont see any sign so far also NATO would have to gather troops to enter what ever country. Aint happening.
IF NATO was to go to war with Russia it will start with total air superior and Russias tanks would mean dick.
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US Secretary of State stated US sees this war weakening Russia. Would he make such a statement that US motivates may not align with Ukraine? Everyone was like don't give Ukraine this or that or Putin will nuke Ukraine.

While in a backroom US military leadership is planning on this war going on for another year. The longer the war is extended the more damage Russia takes in future wars.
 
PEB said:
US Secretary of State stated US sees this war weakening Russia. Would he make such a statement that US motivates may not align with Ukraine? Everyone was like don't give Ukraine this or that or Putin will nuke Ukraine.

While in a backroom US military leadership is planning on this war going on for another year. The longer the war is extended the more damage Russia takes in future wars.
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There sadly for Ukraine reality is first Rammsthein meeting statement.
Exactly one phrase in this: to weaken Russia thus far that they will not be willing to fight in near future.
Not about win for Ukraine, sorry, realpolitik.
It is very painful reality and still it is what this is. Therefore supplies etc...according to this realpolitik.
 
Not auspicious

“One of Ukraine’s most famous fighter pilots who played a prominent public role in pushing western allies to provide Kyiv with F-16 fighter jets has died in a training exercise.

The aviator, publicly known by his call sign “Juice”, was killed on Friday in a crash which also claimed the lives of two other pilots, Ukrainian authorities said.”

Source: FT (paywall)
 
Ukr intensified shelling in Bakhmut aerea with howitzers, mortars and Grad MRLS as never before....
 
Boxiana said:
Any idea why so much is still being poured into this hellhole?
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I don't know.
They pulled ON super heavy and intense shelling and looks that somewhere had get a lot of missiles for Grad 122 mm MRLS.
It really is hell this hour.
 
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