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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V12

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It's amazing how many holes Russian air defenses have...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davida...russias-main-missile-base-in-occupied-crimea/

Ukraine Just Blew Up Russia’s Main Missile Base In Occupied Crimea

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Ukraine Just Blew Up Russia’s Main Missile Base In Occupied Crimea

David Axe Forbes Staff I write about ships, planes, tanks, drones, missiles and satellites. Follow 31 Aug 23, 2023,05:10pm EDT An S-400 battery explodes in Crimea.UKRAINIAN INTELLIGENCE COLLECTION After capturing Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula in February 2014, the Russian armed forces established a major missile base on Cape Tarkhankut in western Crimea. There, the Russians deployed an S-400 surface-to-air missile battery, a battery armed with Bastion anti-ship cruise missiles and a suite of radars including a Podlet K1 and potentially others.

Assisted by the Podlet, the S-400 battery could threaten aerial targets as far away as 250 miles—covering the entire western Black Sea—while the Bastion could hit ships at a distance of 190 miles or so. A Bastion also can strike targets on land. It’s not unfair to call the Cape Tarkhankut site the linchpin of Russian air and naval defenses across the Black Sea and Crimea. Which is why, on Wednesday, the Ukrainian armed forces blew it up.

We don’t know exactly what happened, but we do know this: around 10:00 A.M. on Wednesday, local time, a series of explosions rocked the cape. It’s possible the Ukrainian air force hit the Russian base with Storm Shadow cruise missiles or S-200 ballistic missiles. It also is possible drones or saboteurs were responsible. Petro Andriushchenko, advisor to the exiled Ukrainian mayor of Russian-occupied Mariupol, claimed the Bastion battery was hit. Ukrainian intelligence added that the S-400 battery and its crew was wiped out, too. It’s hard to imagine the Podlet K1 and other large radars on the peninsula escaped attention.

“This is a painful blow to the air-defense system of the occupiers, which will have a serious impact on further events in the occupied Crimea,” the intelligence agency stated.

It’s the clear objective of Ukraine’s 10-week-old counteroffensive to drive the 50 miles from the front line to the Black Sea in occupied southern Ukraine and sever the land links between Russia and Crimea, leaving the Russian occupiers on the peninsular dependent on vulnerable ships and aircraft for resupply.

In cutting off the garrison, the Ukrainians could begin starving it—setting favorable conditions for the eventual liberation of Crimea. Ideally, Ukraine would liberate Crimea “without a fight,” Ukrainian defense minister Oleksii Reznikov has said. But that only would be possible with a virtual blockade of the Russian garrison—a blockade Russia’s air and naval defenses on the peninsula are supposed to prevent. With the destruction of a key missile and radar site, the blockade becomes more feasible.

Ukrainian strikes on Russian positions in Crimea are escalating, with explosives-laden drone boats swarming Russian naval bases and aerial drones, Storm Shadows and S-200s plucking at Russian air bases, logistical facilities and bridges. Expect these raids to escalate even further as Russian air and naval defenses—themselves targets of Ukraine’s drones and missiles—unravel.
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S-200 is anti aircraft missile...
Yes, it might be used in ballistic mode too.

& doesn't looks that they eliminated all battery.
S-400 like Patriot etc is distributed system: cp , cep, radars, launchers are in different truck type cars....also launchers, cp, cep and radars might be located with some miles distance between each element.

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Looks that they managed to disable 3 radars....
 
S-200 is anti aircraft missile...
Yes, it might be used in ballistic mode too.

& doesn't looks that they eliminated all battery.
S-400 like Patriot etc is distributed system: cp , cep, radars, launchers are in different truck type cars....also launchers, cp, cep and radars might be located with some miles distance between each element.

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Looks that they managed to disable 3 radars....

Wouldn't radars be the most valuable and toughest to replace pieces?
 
I'm not buying whole Prigozhin coup. Just as his plane crash. For some reason Russia is staging those scenarios but what purpose it could serve I have no clue.
 
I'm not buying whole Prigozhin coup. Just as his plane crash. For some reason Russia is staging those scenarios but what purpose it could serve I have no clue.

Or stay with me here, Pirogi was offed for the march on Moscow, that made a fool of Putin.
Pirogi had for months talked smacked about the Military leadership of Russia, even claimed his soldiers was shot at by Russian military.
Went to Rostov to try and capture Sogi who was believed to be there at the time.

None of that would be in Putins interest to stage.
Now he offed a guy and the disgruntle people in the corridors of the Kremlin knows whats up and to keep their heads down.
 
Wagner will never be the same without Prigozhin and Concord (his business empire). Because of Concord, Wagner was not just a mercenary group, but could offer Prigozhin's online "services" as well to create legitimacy or attack opponents of a regime. They could even rig an election for you. Furthermore, Wagner didn't have to be paid in cash, but could accept things like cuts of mining rights etc. because Concord's various components could cover shortfalls for one another until money could be extracted.

I learned that from listening to this podcast, which someone here recommended to me. I forgot who, but thanks, mate, it's pretty great!


I'm interested to see who takes charge in Wagner and see what they are going to do about their leaders getting liquidated like they did. I already seen a statement they made about revenge but time will tell hw serious they are.
 
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I'm interested to see who takes charge in Wagner and see what they are going to do about their leaders getting liquidated like they did. I already seen a statement they made about revenge but time will tell hw serious they are.

Looks like Prigozhin had more power in Wagner than I initially thought. Without him they'll dissolve into nothing. Other private armies in the mean time are being created.
 
I'm interested to see who takes charge in Wagner and see what they are going to do about their leaders getting liquidated like they did. I already seen a statement they made about revenge but time will tell hw serious they are.

Interesting where is Utkin?
Unlike Prigi he really does have military education and earlier was GRU leutenant - colonel. He unlike Prigi is....nazi.
 
Utkin uses clean nazi symbolic and there aren't any doubts.
Bird with expanded wings keeping in claws circle with counter clockwise swastika inside.
It is symbol of disorder in medieval european occultism circles... to destroy existing order, symbol of storm and orcane, strong wind destroying things etc.
Hitler later adopted this.
 
Looks like Prigozhin had more power in Wagner than I initially thought. Without him they'll dissolve into nothing. Other private armies in the mean time are being created.

Might be true especially if no one’s working the payroll. Looks like they are basically abandoning Belarus as their pay was a lot less and now that Russia stopped paying them as well they Will basically only have the African connections for their resources for the time being.

Im just hoping they can do some major damage and sabotage inside Russia.
 
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Interesting possibility.



Prigozhin faked death in 2019

Prigozhin flew to Moscow for an unknown reason after returning from Africa – speculation is he could have been summoned there by the Kremlin.

According to reports, Prigozhin’s phone has been found among the wreckage.

Both Wagner and Moscow sources claim Prigozhin is dead – but there has been no official confirmation amid the cloak and dagger of Russia.

None of the bodies recovered from the crash site have been identified yet.

It is understood DNA testing is taking place as the corpses are so badly burnt.

But there is speculation Prigozhin may have dodged Putin’s wrath as a second plane linked to the Wagner leader was spotted just half an hour after the jet crashed.

Prigozhin previously faked his own death and was declared dead in Africa in 2019 before re-emerging three days later.

https://www.news.com.au/world/europ...d/news-story/c96b490d3a1dba870b3ebfd0d620d36f
 
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