International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V12

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Hog-train said:
The Ukrainians haven't even reached the major defensive lines yet.
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Main defensive lines doesn't means they somehow have tons of reserves sitting there, simply that these are the most impressive fortifications, they are still wasting tons of manpower in defending all.

And northern border of Crimea looks like a nightmare to get through.
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Once they reach Sea of Azov Ukraine is going to utterly destroy the Kerch bridge and it will be a logistical nightmare to hold the peninsula if they also attack Sevastopol.
 
ferrisjso said:
Because you refuse to acknowledge the war in the Donbass between 2014 and 2022 as anything more than a Russian psyop because only movements the west supports are sincere from your POV.

Prigozhin says many things. Hes not exactly a beacon of mental stability.
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Not even the Kremlin claims that the war in Donbass was organic, man you commies sure love to lie big.

War in Donbass was a covert invasion of Ukraine carried out by Girkin.
 
Rod1 said:
Not even the Kremlin claims that the war in Donbass was organic, man you commies sure love to lie big.

War in Donbass was a covert invasion of Ukraine carried out by Girkin.
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Yeah this is the core of the dispute. You don't even acknowledge the existence of pro Russian forces in eastern ukraine. Your response to my talking points is "it's not real". There's nowhere for discourse to go when we literally don't agree on the history.
 
Rod1 said:
Not even the Kremlin claims that the war in Donbass was organic, man you commies sure love to lie big.

War in Donbass was a covert invasion of Ukraine carried out by Girkin.
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There really are people who dont think russias shit stir in eastern ukraine was just the small part of taking over control of the whole of ukraine. How fucking gullible are these people or they just are apologist for russian imperialism
 
Joe said:
There really are people who dont think russias shit stir in eastern ukraine was just the small part of taking over control of the whole of ukraine. How fucking gullible are these people or they just are apologist for russian imperialism
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Never ask if DPR prime minister Borodai or defence minister Girkin among many others were russians or locals.

Joe said:
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Sharpnel field at 1:18 quite clearly demonstates that in nearly every case it is not the actual explosion that is deadly but the shrapnel created by it. Also reason why thermobarics see very little real use in most of the world.
 
ferrisjso said:
Yeah this is the core of the dispute. You don't even acknowledge the existence of pro Russian forces in eastern ukraine. Your response to my talking points is "it's not real". There's nowhere for discourse to go when we literally don't agree on the history.
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Says a guy pretending to be a historian
400 hours spent on Wikipedia has to have graduate degree equivalency, right? Right?
 
ferrisjso said:
Ah the racist "Eastern Ukranians should leave their homes because borders matter more than historical ties".

Lolz. Subtle settler colonialism.
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yup...

cry about russians committing "war crimes", but then openly supporting nationalists ukrainians committing ethnic cleansing on ethnic russians in eastern ukraine...

most of them cant be taken seriously and only thing they good at is mindlessly parroting msm talking points.
 
Videer said:
Never ask if DPR prime minister Borodai or defence minister Girkin among many others were russians or locals.



Sharpnel field at 1:18 quite clearly demonstates that in nearly every case it is not the actual explosion that is deadly but the shrapnel created by it. Also reason why thermobarics see very little real use in most of the world.
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Yeah those tiny little balls just puncture anything near it. Everything near it will become useless.
 
Rod1 said:
Main defensive lines doesn't means they somehow have tons of reserves sitting there, simply that these are the most impressive fortifications, they are still wasting tons of manpower in defending all.



Once they reach Sea of Azov Ukraine is going to utterly destroy the Kerch bridge and it will be a logistical nightmare to hold the peninsula if they also attack Sevastopol.
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Lol y'all are going to drive the crow population to extinction when this war finally does end. Such a shame they are magnificent creatures.
 
Cole train said:
Since economy has been discussed lately



https://www.businessinsider.com/war...aires-billionaires-uhnw-wealth-ubs-2023-8?amp

Article mentions oil as suspected reason (which russia still sells to ukr btw)
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Number of millionaires doesn't resemble total shape of economy....rich and smart ppl always might earn with speculations during crisises etc, why not. Plus previously not declared money might had been laundered with intent to declare it later.

Ukraine doesn't have crude oil refinery in working condition. So will not purchase unprocessed crude oil....
Yeah, Zelensky is doing business with russia....for example allowed transit for natural gas and crude oil to Hungary and ukr is purchasing diesel fuel, gasoline etc : hungarian refineries products.
It is just business, nothing personal.
 
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Limbo Pete said:
Says a guy pretending to be a historian
400 hours spent on Wikipedia has to have graduate degree equivalency, right? Right?
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I have an UG degree in history with honors. I never claimed to have a masters or PHD. I have you blocked but just setting the record straight because you keep slinging personal attacks.
 
ferrisjso said:
I have an UG degree in history with honors. I never claimed to have a masters or PHD. I have you blocked but just setting the record straight because you keep slinging personal attacks.
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No matter what your degree is in personal attacks or not if you don't need a doctorate in history to understand history just listen to Will Hunting you Michael Bolton clone. Anyways you need a thick skin if you support Russian actions.

 
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