Law russell brand allegations

[giusti825]

That's not the gap. Not sure if you're lying or just stupid, though. Liberalism is about how you think as much as what. Putting an emphasis on science over other claims to knowledge (revelation, intuition, culture, etc.) is the key thing.

Lol. Like they put their faith in science during the pandemic???? I don't mean "THE science", I mean science as a method of rational thought. Everything liberals asserted during the pandemic was wrong. First, two weeks to slow the spread, then social distancing never worked and was absolutely arbitrary, then masks didn't work, then the experimental gene therapy injections didn't prevent spread, then the injections were said to be more effective than natural immunity. They lied about the endemic state of COVID-19.

You know who got it wrong? Mainstream liberal press. You know who got it right? Independent media, like Brand who were citing the actual scientific and medical journals on their shows. The liberal press was adhering to "THE science" like religious dogma. Maybe in the 90s they were more capable of research and critical thought.... Now they're religious zealots for the party; too lazy to read or think for themselves.

On issues, support for a market-based economy, representative democracy, and limited gov't are the main liberal issues (which allows for a very wide range on the left-right spectrum).

A market based economy that subsidized large corporations and passes policies to eliminate competition.

Representative democracy where the will of the donors trumps the will of the working class majority.

Limited government where the white house, regulatory and advisory agencies, and the intelligence community call for censorship of dissident voices from the shadows in order to keep the people "safe" from mis, dis and malinformation (a term coined to define true statements that the establishment doesn't like).

The fact that you can't look at these situations and see that people claiming to be liberal would be called something entirely different in the 90s is astounding.

Anti-censorship is a core liberal value (see above about limited gov't). He's definitely not to the left of Democrats on those other issues either.

Now you're just trolling. It's those claiming to be liberals that are pushing the modern censorship campaign. The fifth circuit called the censorship campaign the most dangerous infringement of free speech in modern times. The Biden administration, instead of realizing their error and apologizing, is appealing the decision in attempts to continue the government directed censorship.

Brand has railed against censorship. The global western liberal establishment is the primary culprit.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Lol. Like they put their faith in science during the pandemic???? I don't mean "THE science", I mean science as a method of rational thought.

Yeah. And all other times. You not agreeing or even thinking that lunatic CTers are actually guided by science isn't relevant to the point. Your argument amounts to the claim that Brand is more liberal than whoever it is you're referring to, though it's silly.

A market based economy that subsidized large corporations and passes policies to eliminate competition.

Representative democracy where the will of the donors trumps the will of the working class majority.

Again, your own opinions or CTs don't have any bearing on what liberalism is. When you grow up, you'll be able to examine an issue rationally regardless of your opinions.

Now you're just trolling. It's those claiming to be liberals that are pushing the modern censorship campaign. The fifth circuit called the censorship campaign the most dangerous infringement of free speech in modern times. The Biden administration, instead of realizing their error and apologizing, is appealing the decision in attempts to continue the government directed censorship.

Brand has railed against censorship. The global western liberal establishment is the primary culprit.

No, telling the truth is not trolling. The fact that you can't even get your head around the idea that liberals exist demonstrates that you are in a bubble.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

What happened to the Lizzo thread?



There's a poor victim getting cancelled by the liberal media, I expected at least 40-60 pages.

Oh, right, right, she's not a right wing grifter.

 

[giusti825]

Yeah. And all other times. You not agreeing or even thinking that lunatic CTers are actually guided by science isn't relevant to the point. Your argument amounts to the claim that Brand is more liberal than whoever it is you're referring to, though it's silly.

If you honestly believe that the liberal establishment got even most things right during the pandemic, there is no helping you. Did you take the injections? Did you get COVID?

Youre trapped in a cult that you are incapable of criticizing.

The "CTers," as you call them, got far more correct than the liberal establishment throughout the pandemic. This wasn't dumb luck. They were citing peer reviewed studies in the most authoritative medical journals in the world.

Again, your own opinions or CTs don't have any bearing on what liberalism is. When you grow up, you'll be able to examine an issue rationally regardless of your opinions.

What exactly are you refuting here? Do you honestly believe that the will of the working class majority is carried out more than the donors class? That's ridiculous.

No, telling the truth is not trolling. The fact that you can't even get your head around the idea that liberals exist demonstrates that you are in a bubble.

Liberalism as a philosophy exists, however, the group of people identifying themselves as liberals have completely turned their backs on the core tenets of that philosophy.

Modern "liberals" are so ideologically different from 90s liberals, you would think they were entirely different people. 90s liberals had principles and ideological consistency. Modern "liberals" are just party loyalists to the point you would believe the party was a church.

 

[Snubnoze707]

We can make this simple.

Yes we can, you can actually listen to the words right out of his mouth rather than rely on me as a mediator...

https://rumble.com/v3kpy5m-this-is-important.html

 

[avenue94]

Yes we can, you can actually listen to the words right out of his mouth rather than rely on me as a mediator...

https://rumble.com/v3kpy5m-this-is-important.html

Make it succinct, bud: It should take one sentence or a short paragraph. What qualifies someone as an elite versus not elite? I have no interest in what Brand thinks on this matter. Can you not put it into your own words?

 

[Snubnoze707]

Make it succinct, bud: It should take one sentence or a short paragraph. What qualifies someone as an elite versus not elite? I have no interest in what Brand thinks on this matter. Can you not put it into your own words?

I'm not getting into the semantics about defining "elite" it's an irrelevant waste of time.

Watch the video if you want to have some level of context about how this is a coordinated attack and why.

 

[avenue94]

I'm not getting into the semantics about defining "elite" it's an irrelevant waste of time.

Watch the video if you want to have some level of context about how this is a coordinated attack and why.

So giving a simple definition of "elite" is "semantics," yet you're convinced the elites, who again you can't even define, are after Brand. sure, buddy. Maybe do your own thinking for one instead of whatever random social media influencer is your beloved at any singular moment.

 

[Andy Capp]

What happened to the Lizzo thread?



There's a poor victim getting cancelled by the liberal media, I expected at least 40-60 pages.

Oh, right, right, she's not a right wing grifter.

What happened with Lizzo besides the over-hyped flute thing?

 

[Andy Capp]

If you can't understand the difference between these two thing I can't help you.

You're welcome to actually watch his videos to understand who he's pushing back against.

So far nobody has taken this challenge and been able to address his actual content.

That's because his actual content is irrelevant to whether he engaged in the acts he's accused of. You have ducked this point repeatedly, just as in my earlier post, above,

Is that the only part of my post you read? Did you miss the part where I said his political leanings are irrelevant here and that's why it's fucking stupid to paint him as the victim of a smear campaign?

To which you lamely replied,

Again you're missing the point. This isn't about Left vs Right, Democrat vs Republican. This is about exposing the powerful elite. He's being smeared because he's calling them out, and they don't give a shit about the Left/Right paradigm that is only there to create division amongst the masses so they fight each other taking the focus off of them. This is a huge part of Brand's messaging.

No, it's about whether or not the Times story is true regardless of his bullshit. Burn the fucking place down if the Times lied, for all I care, but what evidence do you have, as opposed to your feelings, that it is not true?

 

[Deleted member 577981]

That's because his actual content is irrelevant to whether he engaged in the acts he's accused of. You have ducked this point repeatedly, just as in my earlier post, above,

To which you lamely replied,


No, it's about whether or not the Times story is true regardless of his bullshit. Burn the fucking place down if the lied, for all I care, but what evidence do you have, as opposed to your feelings, that it is not true?

do you not allow for even the possibility that this is a hit job based on his politics? i am asking because secular talk, breaking points and a number of other more progressive outlets seem to think so.

i detest russel brand by the way, think he is probably guilty and am no friend of his but it does seem possible to me.

 

[Andy Capp]

do you not allow for even the possibility that this is a hit job based on his politics? i am asking because secular talk, breaking points and a number of other more progressive outlets seem to think so.

i detest russel brand by the way, think he is probably guilty and am no friend of his but it does seem possible to me.

Why allow for a possibility which has, as yet, no supporting evidence? The bold text just sounds like a bunch of randos with opinions, just like me, only there's a reasoned basis for mine.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Why allow for a possibility which has, as yet, no supporting evidence? The bold text just sounds like a bunch of randos with opinions, just like me, only there's a reasoned basis for mine.

i think the reason to allow for the possibility is that we are in a climate where this kind of thing is happening for political reasons all over the place and the problem of it is being discussed by many serious intellectuals (no i am not referring to jordan peterson as I do not consider him serious) and the public at large. there are good reasons to generalize about the possibility here i think even if one cannot know for certian.

 

[Hog-train]

Good place to leave this:

Let's hire voice actors to re-enact anonymous accusations and make it a full length film.

Isn't that a bit suspicious before there are even formal charges or an actual victim stepping out? At the least, that's some kind of collective effort to bring him down.

 

[avenue94]

i think the reason to allow for the possibility is that we are in a climate where this kind of thing is happening for political reasons all over the place and the problem of it is being discussed by many serious intellectuals (no i am not referring to jordan peterson as I do not consider him serious) and the public at large. there are good reasons to generalize about the possibility here i think even if one cannot know for certian.

Who are these serious intellectuals?

Let's hire voice actors to re-enact anonymous accusations and make it a full length film.

Isn't that a bit suspicious before there are even formal charges or an actual victim stepping out? At the least, that's some kind of collective effort to bring him down.

It was a documentary a la British 20/20. Dramatic but thats how tv specials work.

 

[giusti825]

"completely unrelated"

The Associated Press and Reuters will likely be dropping hit pieces on Rumble by Tuesday because they refused to deplatform or demonetize Brand. Executive staff and content creators have already been contacted and asked to respond by close of business on Friday.

I wouldn't call myself clairvoyant..... But I'd be willing to bet that a Government or two will be looking to either interfere in Rumble's operations or outright ban the platform for fostering a free speech environment where they don't punish their creators over allegations that have nothing to do with their content.

Called it. Here is the Associated Press hit piece on Rumble because Rumble refused to demonetize Brand at the behest of the British government:

https://apnews.com/article/republic...on-extremism-a6e627ac88463f9f83ada062ea83c6db

 

[avenue94]

Called it. Here is the Associated Press hit piece on Rumble because Rumble refused to demonetize Brand at the behest of the British government:

https://apnews.com/article/republic...on-extremism-a6e627ac88463f9f83ada062ea83c6db

Doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know and isn't going to change anyone's mind on the platform. Seems like a mundane piece.

Do you think that The Times tells the AP what to cover or something.

 

[jk7707]

Called it. Here is the Associated Press hit piece on Rumble because Rumble refused to demonetize Brand at the behest of the British government:

https://apnews.com/article/republic...on-extremism-a6e627ac88463f9f83ada062ea83c6db

You mean the private platform that he signed a contract with for his content a year ago has made the financial decision not to break that contract?

 

[eddymotto]

I hope some of the libtards in this thread can explain why they act like these salacious newspaper smears are so convincing and yet the police are not even investigating?

EDIT: As I have long predicted, the leftist UK police force has now joined the conspiracy to go after Russel Brand for daring to speak the truth.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66918331

if this does not convince you that this entire thing is a coordinated attack campaign by the global elites, I have a a COVID vaccine booster to sell you

 

[giusti825]

Doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know and isn't going to change anyone's mind on the platform. Seems like a mundane piece.

Do you think that The Times tells the AP what to cover or something.

No. In fact, its quite the opposite.