Rubik's Cube Magician Fools Penn & Teller

Madmick said:
You can try to sound smart, but your ignorance has already been exposed, here.

I was fully aware of these solution methods. I was waiting for you to sound it out in order that you might realize why it couldn't explain the illusion.
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You can literally watch him fuck up the illusion when he's pulling it out of the bag.
 
jgarner said:
You can literally watch him fuck up the illusion when he's pulling it out of the bag.
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Give it a rest.

Or come back to us without how many twists it takes the all-in-one algorithm to reach a solution. I'll be waiting. Don't think you're gonna like what you learn from Googl--**ahem**-- your "nerdy friends who do this stuff".
 
Madmick said:
Give it a rest.

Or come back to us without how many twists it takes the all-in-one algorithm to reach a solution. I'll be waiting. Don't think you're gonna like what you learn from Googl--**ahem**-- your "nerdy friends who do this stuff".
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Lol it's not an all in one algorithm. It's usually based off a corner piece from what I've seen. One of the sides is a pattern he knows how to solve quickly. You can literally see him solving it in the video. I don't know how much clearer that gets. He's just very skilled at it. It's not a trick cube.

Here's a website that kind of goes into detail about his trick.

http://rebelmagic.com/rubiks-cube-magic-trick-tutorial/

He also sells a package online that explains his tricks. Here is a review


Cube3 by Steven Brundage - my review

What you get: A ShengShou Aurora puzzle cube in a cute black box, along with a thin wafer-style USB stick containing 2 MP4 videos and 2 PDF files. The cube handles great, and is smooth and quiet although if you don't already own another cube, I suggest you purchase one (about $5 to $7) so you have a solved cube for the tricks, and an unsolved one for learning algorithms.

Videos: The first 1.5 hour video covers solving the cube for a complete beginner, using the CFOP Method (Fridrich method). Unlike YouTube shaky-cam videos where other people teach this, Steven's instruction is top-notch, crystal clear and shot in HD. Production quality, music, backgrounds, editing is pure Hollywood. His likeable personality shines through the camera, and you'll be able to solve a cube from zero knowledge in a few hours.

The second MP4 teaches the 6 tricks you see not only in the trailer, but also on Penn and Teller "Fool Us" show where Steven appeared (yes, he fooled them). Two interesting videos to watch are (YouTube search: "steven brundage speeding ticket", "steven brundage fool us"), which show clear examples of what you'll learn. All tricks use an ungimmicked cube and will require a few hours/days of practice to get the proper handling down. Also, some tricks are much easier than the rest - imagination solve only requires one move and can be mastered very quickly whereas the behind-the-back solve will require more practice.

In addition to the tricks, Steven teaches "false shuffling" methods whereas the cube looks randomized when it's not. You have complete control over how many moves it will require to solve, thus you can formulate your own tricks or fake-speed-solving techniques. You also learn the best moves to make the cube have the most separate colors next to each other, so it appears difficult to solve. He went through many variations of moves until he found the sweet spot that would fool the most people.

The good news is: You don't need to speed-solve a cube in order to perform the tricks. In fact, you can be a complete cube novice and still do them, which cuts down on the practice time. Obviously, long term you need to be able to reset your cube to "solved state" in case a spectator mixes up your cube, but for the purpose of learning tricks, it's unnecessary.

If you have issues viewing the MP4s on your TV or iPad (like I did), you can convert via HandBrake, a free MP4 conversion program in order to get them on the big screen.

PDFs: The first PDF is 2 pages, and contains Steven's beginner method in a 7-step, easy to follow format. The first page contains the steps along with color cube pictures demonstrating the "basic solve", while the second shows you stand move notation. I would only print out the first page personally, since the notation is really obvious after about an hour working with your puzzle cube. The other PDF is a speed-cubing guide from www.BadMePhisto.com, and is a fairly intimidating 3-page color document with all the F2L, OLL, PLL algorithms. If you don't want to be a speed-cuber, you can skip this entirely. If you DO want to speed-cube, his website contains fantastic YouTube videos showing what all that terminology means in a simpler format.

Conclusion: Overall you're receiving 3 hours of fantastic video instruction along with a great cube for a rediculously low price of $35. For the money, this is the best magic deal since Liquid Metal, and I rate it complete hotsauce. Must-have.
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So suck on that Mattyboy! Question my integrity again and I'll keep on.
 
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jgarner said:
Lol it's not an all in one algorithm. It's usually based off a corner piece from what I've seen.
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Concession accepted.
One of the sides is a pattern he knows how to solve quickly. You can literally see him solving it in the video. I don't know how much clearer that gets. He's just very skilled at it. It's not a trick cube.

Here's a website that kind of goes into detail about his trick.

http://rebelmagic.com/rubiks-cube-magic-trick-tutorial/

He also sells a package online that explains his tricks. Here is a review


Cube3 by Steven Brundage - my review

What you get: A ShengShou Aurora puzzle cube in a cute black box, along with a thin wafer-style USB stick containing 2 MP4 videos and 2 PDF files. The cube handles great, and is smooth and quiet although if you don't already own another cube, I suggest you purchase one (about $5 to $7) so you have a solved cube for the tricks, and an unsolved one for learning algorithms.

Videos: The first 1.5 hour video covers solving the cube for a complete beginner, using the CFOP Method (Fridrich method). Unlike YouTube shaky-cam videos where other people teach this, Steven's instruction is top-notch, crystal clear and shot in HD. Production quality, music, backgrounds, editing is pure Hollywood. His likeable personality shines through the camera, and you'll be able to solve a cube from zero knowledge in a few hours.

The second MP4 teaches the 6 tricks you see not only in the trailer, but also on Penn and Teller "Fool Us" show where Steven appeared (yes, he fooled them). Two interesting videos to watch are (YouTube search: "steven brundage speeding ticket", "steven brundage fool us"), which show clear examples of what you'll learn. All tricks use an ungimmicked cube and will require a few hours/days of practice to get the proper handling down. Also, some tricks are much easier than the rest - imagination solve only requires one move and can be mastered very quickly whereas the behind-the-back solve will require more practice.

In addition to the tricks, Steven teaches "false shuffling" methods whereas the cube looks randomized when it's not. You have complete control over how many moves it will require to solve, thus you can formulate your own tricks or fake-speed-solving techniques. You also learn the best moves to make the cube have the most separate colors next to each other, so it appears difficult to solve. He went through many variations of moves until he found the sweet spot that would fool the most people.

The good news is: You don't need to speed-solve a cube in order to perform the tricks. In fact, you can be a complete cube novice and still do them, which cuts down on the practice time. Obviously, long term you need to be able to reset your cube to "solved state" in case a spectator mixes up your cube, but for the purpose of learning tricks, it's unnecessary.

If you have issues viewing the MP4s on your TV or iPad (like I did), you can convert via HandBrake, a free MP4 conversion program in order to get them on the big screen.

PDFs: The first PDF is 2 pages, and contains Steven's beginner method in a 7-step, easy to follow format. The first page contains the steps along with color cube pictures demonstrating the "basic solve", while the second shows you stand move notation. I would only print out the first page personally, since the notation is really obvious after about an hour working with your puzzle cube. The other PDF is a speed-cubing guide from www.BadMePhisto.com, and is a fairly intimidating 3-page color document with all the F2L, OLL, PLL algorithms. If you don't want to be a speed-cuber, you can skip this entirely. If you DO want to speed-cube, his website contains fantastic YouTube videos showing what all that terminology means in a simpler format.

Conclusion: Overall you're receiving 3 hours of fantastic video instruction along with a great cube for a rediculously low price of $35. For the money, this is the best magic deal since Liquid Metal, and I rate it complete hotsauce. Must-have.
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jgarner said:
How did he trick them? All he's doing is using basic rubic's cube algorithms to get back to solved. He's just really good at it, but this isn't really magic if you know how people solve rubic's cubes. You can even see him turning the cube in the bag as he pulls it out.

I really like the show, but this was a dumb one.
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Twice.
 
Madmick said:
Concession accepted.


Twice.
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Honestly I think it's more impressive that it's not gimmicked. He's just that fucking good.

It reminds me of this card guy who went on the show and didn't try to fool them, but just did it so perfectly they gave it to him. I'll try to find it real quick.

I really love this show! People hate on it, but I enjoy magic that isn't too spiritual and otherworldly

You can go ahead and admit that I was correct.
 
Wonderful misdirection ITT by @Madmick

Trying (but failing) to divert us from the fact we saw how he's doing part of his trick.

HE SOLVES IT IN THE BAG

Conjurer still gets props, he's got a neat little act and got several components to it that can't be explained.

Still seen better on the show, though. Sorry this one impressed you.
 
jgarner said:
Honestly I think it's more impressive that it's not gimmicked. He's just that fucking good.

It reminds me of this card guy who went on the show and didn't try to fool them, but just did it so perfectly they gave it to him. I'll try to find it real quick.

I really love this show! People hate on it, but I enjoy magic that isn't too spiritual and otherworldly

You can go ahead and admit that I was correct.
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Wow, astonishing, but unsurprising. You still haven't wrapped your head around these ideas.

Explain to us: why would someone need an algorithm to solve a cube that has been falsely randomized?

No, my friend, Googling didn't save you.
 
Madmick said:
Wow, astonishing, but unsurprising. You still haven't wrapped your head around these ideas.

Explain to us: why would someone need an algorithm to solve a cube that has been falsely randomized?

No, my friend, Googling didn't save you.
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Falsely randomized cubes are just one of the techniques and you still use an algorithm to solve it.

You're a fucking clown man. If you actually read what was posted in the review of his product, it's clear he's using algorithms. He teaches them in his package for a reason.

Don't be a grouch because I figured it out.
 
jgarner said:
Falsely randomized cubes are just one of the techniques and you still use an algorithm to solve it.
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No. This completely misses the point of both what false randomization is, and what a solution algorithm is designed to solve.
You're a fucking clown man. If you actually read what was posted in the review of his product, it's clear he's using algorithms. He teaches them in his package for a reason.

Don't be a grouch because I figured it out.
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You objectively did NOT figure it out. You made an errant presumption, and you continue to deny it despite the fallacies of it being explained to you.
 
Madmick said:
No. This completely misses the point of both what false randomization is, and what a solution algorithm is designed to solve.
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No. An algorithm is simply a set of rules you follow. A falsely randomized cube still requires an algorithm to get back to the solved state.

You objectively did NOT figure it out. You made an errant presumption, and you continue to deny it despite the fallacies of it being explained to you.
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There are no fallacies. I gave my hypothesis from my experience around the cubes and the fact that you can literally watch him using them in the video. Then i turned to Google to find evidence that supported my hypothesis and I did. What's happening is you're being pedantic because I wasn't amazed by your stupid cube video like you were.
 
jgarner said:
No. An algorithm is simply a set of rules you follow. A falsely randomized cube still requires an algorithm to get back to the solved state.
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Are you embarrassed yet?
 
Madmick said:
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Are you embarrassed yet?
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An algorithm to shuffle it. An algorithm to solve it. What exactly do you think an algorithm is?

Why would I be embarrassed when I'm correct? And you're so stuck on the false shuffle, when that's only one of many techniques he's using. Maybe you need to purchase his G3 kit then you'll understand. Everything I said he's using in his tricks.
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
If Penn & teller aren't fooled do they reveal the tricks or just hint at it enough the magician knows they know?
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They lay down pretty heavy hints for techniques and famous tricks that they recognize. The average person can definitely dig a little online after a comment and understand what's going on.
 
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