Rubik's Cube Magician Fools Penn & Teller

[Madmick]

This was from this July, but it's a brilliant show. Thought I'd share.

 

[freaky]

July of LAST YEAR!!!

 

[SheetsMMAfan]

I absolutely love this show. Those dudes are brilliant.

I like Shin min Lee and the other guy who was just on that fooled them with slight of hand card magic. Shit was fantastic.

Allison gets annoying as fuck. They must tape tons of shows The once, because she wears the same outfit all season...

 

[drstrangelov]

I remember him on americas got talent a couple years back. His shtick is having very loose joints in the cubes so he can manipulate them without his movements being obvious. A lot of it is specific memorization, getting the solved cube to hit some patterns in a few short moves. He needs to keep his hands above the table though, when he drops both below you know there's some sort of switch going on.

 

[MusterX]

This guy is Jeff McBride, he is pretty much known worldwide in magic circles and what he performs here is masterfully done.

 

[CutStryker]

I enjoy watching that show. Brings a smile to my face.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Something tells me I'm now gonna be hooked on this.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

If Penn & teller aren't fooled do they reveal the tricks or just hint at it enough the magician knows they know?

 

[Guestx]

That's pretty interesting. I've always loved magic.

I have this memory of going to New Orleans as a kid and there being this magic store on the Riverwalk where they would put on these magic shows to get people to buy stuff. I found it entrancing and to this day that's the only memory of that trip that I had.

I've learned a few self-working card tricks. I'd like to go deeper with it but I just don't think I have what it takes to convincingly do the sleight of hand stuff.

For anyone who gets into ASMR, there's a guy who does card tricks and some of the shit is pretty cool.

 

[DM1982]

It is a good show, but I'm disappointed P & T let this guy slip past them.

I'm no expert but even I could spot a seam or 2 in his tricks.

You can clearly tell at 3:34 he is putting finishing touches to tinkering with the cube to complete it in the bag

and

at 4:45 the cube is not completed, it's only half solved, he's concealing the rest.

P & T must have spotted this.

No idea how he did it throwing in the air and 1 or 2 other bits, but I've seen better acts on the show not fool them.

I guess they're just not Rubik's guys.

 

[Kardashians]

If Penn & teller aren't fooled do they reveal the tricks or just hint at it enough the magician knows they know?

They kinda hint at it but don’t reveal the trick. At least I’ve not seen them do so.

 

[jdionio]

If Penn & teller aren't fooled do they reveal the tricks or just hint at it enough the magician knows they know?

They use some code words, hints and phrases to say they got it. For example, with Misty Lee, they gave a ton of hints.

 

[Fawlty]

Awesome. I don't think he's switching out the cubes at all, he's too unpolished. Think he's giving himself a lot of time with his banter to set up a really easy solution that looks very mixed up, but is actually only a few moves away from where he wants it (so he can do things like solve one-handed behind his back, or inside of a paper bag without disturbing it too much). Super impressive that he offers Teller either cube and manages to replicate it quickly. I think there could be shortcuts here that aren't actual solutions, but appear to be so on quick inspection, which is just as impressive.

 

[Madmick]

July of LAST YEAR!!!

I stand corrected. My bad.

It is a good show, but I'm disappointed P & T let this guy slip past them.

I'm no expert but even I could spot a seam or 2 in his tricks.

You can clearly tell at 3:34 he is putting finishing touches to tinkering with the cube to complete it in the bag

and

at 4:45 the cube is not completed, it's only half solved, he's concealing the rest.

P & T must have spotted this.

No idea how he did it throwing in the air and 1 or 2 other bits, but I've seen better acts on the show not fool them.

I guess they're just not Rubik's guys.

Uh huh. I'll just leave this here. One of my favorite comments from social media:

"The solution is actually very simple. See the Rubik's Cube in his hand is magnetized on all sides. Whenever he turns one side of the Rubik's Cube it magnetizes and that's when I have no idea what the fuck I'm actually talking about."

 

[DoomPatrol]

This was from this July, but it's a brilliant show. Thought I'd share.

How did he trick them? All he's doing is using basic rubic's cube algorithms to get back to solved. He's just really good at it, but this isn't really magic if you know how people solve rubic's cubes. You can even see him turning the cube in the bag as he pulls it out.

I really like the show, but this was a dumb one.

 

[Madmick]

How did he trick them? All he's doing is using basic rubic's cube algorithms to get back to solved. He's just really good at it, but this isn't really magic if you know how people solve rubic's cubes. You can even see him turning the cube in the bag as he pulls it out.

I really like the show, but this was a dumb one.

Define for me what a "basic Rubik's Cube algorithm" is. Understand before you do this that I do know how to-- and can/have-- solve them.

 

[DoomPatrol]

Define for me what a "basic Rubik's Cube algorithm" is.

Well an algorithm is a set of rules to be followed to perform a calculation. For the Rubik's cube, there's a few of them that you can learn to solve the cube from any position.

Here's where you can learn some of the basic ones.

https://hobbylark.com/puzzles/Rubik-Cube-Algorithms

Here's an advanced method for speed solving.

https://ruwix.com/the-rubiks-cube/advanced-cfop-fridrich/

I'm sure he's developed a few more advanced ones that work, but that's how people speed solve them. You can make a completely mixed Rubik's cube go from mixed to solved in a handful of moves if you know what you're doing.

It's impressive math and memorization technique, but nothing magical.

 

[Madmick]

Well an algorithm is a set of rules to be followed to perform a calculation. For the Rubik's cube, there's a few of them that you can learn to solve the cube from any position.

Here's where you can learn some of the basic ones.

https://hobbylark.com/puzzles/Rubik-Cube-Algorithms

Here's an advanced method for speed solving.

https://ruwix.com/the-rubiks-cube/advanced-cfop-fridrich/

I'm sure he's developed a few more advanced ones that work, but that's how people speed solve them. You can make a completely mixed Rubik's cube go from mixed to solved in a handful of moves if you know what you're doing.

It's impressive math and memorization technique, but nothing magical.

Yes. You are aware that any Rubik's Cube purchase comes with a little booklet that informs you of the main one, correct?

The thing about it is that it isn't the same set of moves from any given position. Rather, it's a map where you hit certain positions along the way, but the way to that position is never the same with any given solve. Only these checkpoints along the way.

Furthermore, did you care to read your own link? The World Records in official competition still take seconds, with both hands, eyes open, on the Cube, and right now the WR-- the single fastest time across the millions/billions of efforts in a formal competition-- is 4.59 seconds. Speed solving doesn't explain away his illusion. I'll just re-post this here:

"The solution is actually very simple. See the Rubik's Cube in his hand is magnetized on all sides. Whenever he turns one side of the Rubik's Cube it magnetizes and that's when I have no idea what the fuck I'm actually talking about."

 

[DoomPatrol]

Yes. You are aware that any Rubik's Cube purchase comes with a little booklet that informs you of the main one, correct?

The thing about it is that it isn't the same set of moves from any given position. Rather, it's a map where you hit certain positions along the way, but the way to that position is never the same with any given solve. Only these checkpoints along the way.

Furthermore, did you care to read your own link? The World Records in official competition still take seconds, with both hands, eyes open, on the Cube, and right now the WR-- the single fastest time across the millions/billions of efforts in a formal competition-- is 4.59 seconds. Speed solving doesn't explain away his illusion. I'll just re-post this here:

As I said, those were the basic ones since you seemed to not understand what an algorithm is.

There are more advanced ones that allow you to solve it from any scrambled position using the same algorithm. The cube looks scrambled, but it's actually set to be solved in a few moves.

I have two very nerdy friends who do this stuff. You can scramble the thing for one of them and they'll use algorithms to solve it. It's not magnets. It's math.

 

[Madmick]

As I said, those were the basic ones since you seemed to not understand what an algorithm is.

There are more advanced ones that allow you to solve it from any scrambled position using the same algorithm. The cube looks scrambled, but it's actually set to be solved in a few moves.

I have two very nerdy friends who do this stuff. You can scramble the thing for one of them and they'll use algorithms to solve it. It's not magnets. It's math.

You can try to sound smart, but your ignorance has already been exposed, here.

I was fully aware of these solution methods. I was waiting for you to sound it out in order that you might realize why it couldn't explain the illusion.