Rizin, Bellator, PFL and ONE, Which Promotion Will Die First?

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  1. Baba Ghanoush

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    The yakuza seem to be satisfied with Rizin and OneFC is a glorified money laundering organization for Asian oligarchs. Bellator is on life support with the DAZN money, but no one gives a shit nor wants to pay DAZN a penny in the US.

    My vote is on PFL. Good chance those million dollar checks bounce soon.
     
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    Ridiculous assertion based on absolutely nothing.
     
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    I mean is the DAZN deal that sweet? I was under the impression that Bellator was doing bad.
     
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    FrankieNYC "My balls was hot!" Platinum Member

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    Bellator has never made a dime in profit & ratings in US were down 25-34% last year with more expenses.
    But ...
    DAZN guaranteed them $33m per year for 3 years with a 2 year option

    To put in perspective, that $33m is more than they ever grossed in a year
     
  5. InfinityLens

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    Rizin, 1C, and PFL all looking in trouble, now I get this great news about Bellator. Thank you so much, I really needed this boost.
     
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    FrankieNYC "My balls was hot!" Platinum Member

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    You got it.
    I think Bellator making a profit is bigger news than people think.
     
  7. AimedWithV

    AimedWithV Wound in the Force

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    And what do you think about DAZN's future BTW?
    They seem to make many risky acquisitions lately, trying to be Netflix of sports or something.
    And Canelo ratings might bew the sign that the issue exists.

    Can it be that DAZN blows up in their, Bellator's , sports faces soon?
     
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    FrankieNYC "My balls was hot!" Platinum Member

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    They have a lot of money behind them
    Even if they never get to the break-even point, they could/would/should most likely sell

    I always felt that would be how all this insanity with competing streaming services ends up
    We might get one huge Netflix-Sports buying everyone once the popularity becomes big enough
     
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  9. AimedWithV

    AimedWithV Wound in the Force

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    Honestly I really hope it does happen.
    Netflix is our lord and savior. It saved my life's sanity when our son was born and now we're expecting the second one.
    If they tell me that for renewal of Netflix package I need to kill someone, I'll consider this option.

    And to have the same only with sports...all the sports...perfect. Simply perfect.
     
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    This board is acting very buggy today
    Recent post are coming & going so I can't quote @AimedWithV
    But I want to say congrats to the news of expecting another child.

    Hope they are healthy buddy
     
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    I hope DAZN does good, they are Bellators lifeline.
     
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  12. FrankieNYC

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    Even if they don't ... I doubt they fold before the 3 year contract is up
    They seem to do OK outside of US

    What you need to hope is that DAZN feels Bellator is bringing subs to the platform.
    Otherwise they won't exercise the 2 year option
     
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    Thank you very much my friend.
     
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    I witnessed a couple of companies starting small, then trying to get into something big and after failure, could not recuperate to the small state back.
    Hopefully that's not the DAZN case
     
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    The reporter who published the articles on PRIDE's yakuza ties back in the day just announced that he was going to publish an article on RIZIN. We'll see whether this announcement is pertinent to the topic, but his exact wording was "It cant be helped"....
     
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  19. FrankieNYC

    FrankieNYC "My balls was hot!" Platinum Member

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    Really?

    Keep us in the loop man

    thanks
     
  20. FrankieNYC

    FrankieNYC "My balls was hot!" Platinum Member

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    I just saw this

    There is no guarantee DAZN will ever make money, but they can certainly be sold to someone that wants all that content
     
  21. AimedWithV

    AimedWithV Wound in the Force

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    Hehe yeah, like their pretty much only colleague in sports streaming, such as... UFC Fight Pass! And then buh bye Bellator, see ya don't wanna be ya
     
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  22. FrankieNYC

    FrankieNYC "My balls was hot!" Platinum Member

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    Nah
    DAZN has a presence overseas too

    They know they are not making money for years down the line (unless they sell)
     

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