International Riot in Sweden.

[shinkyoku]

And my point is that it's nuts how one of the most secular areas the world has ever seen is now prone to rioting because of some putz burning a book.

Do you seriously believe race is not a issue?
This guy is on record for saying things like blacks have lower IQ than whites. He may mainly target islam, but he by no means approve of immigrant Coptic Christians, or secular people from the same regions. They are just not as easy a target to provoke and there are fewer of them.

Ah alright, never knew that.

He applied for dual citizenship 2020 at age 38, after he was refused entry into sweden for a koran burning event. After he got his citizenship (since his dad was swedish) he can by law no longer be refused entry.

 

[Bald1]

Do you seriously believe race is not a issue?
This guy is on record for saying things like blacks have lower IQ than whites. He may mainly target islam, but he by no means approve of immigrant Coptic Christians, or secular people from the same regions. They are just not as easy a target to provoke and there are fewer of them.


He applied for dual citizenship 2020 at age 38, after he was refused entry into sweden for a koran burning event. After he got his citizenship (since his dad was swedish) he can by law no longer be refused entry.

I don't know anything about this guy but don't doubt you that he's racist.

Doesn't change the principle behind what I'm talking about. And that is newcomers changing the fabric of your society.

 

[ElKarlo]

Nobody was talking about being part of society. You said they were guests, they aren’t. They live there, probably have citizenship which makes them not guests

you assuming they don’t speak the language doesn’t change anything about their status.

They are guests. They were allowed to move and move there.
Assume? lol, I bet their mastery of the language is poor at best

 

[So Fresh]

They are guests. They were allowed to move and move there.
Assume? lol, I bet their mastery of the language is poor at best

Me going on a vacation makes me a guest. Me emigrating makes me a citizen. You clearly don’t understand the difference and the only reason you’re using “guests” is because you’re trying do downplay their status.

And first it was not speaking the language at all, now it’s speaking the language poorly. Fact is you don’t know because (i’m assuming) you’ve never been there. And them not speaking the language says nothing about them being guests or citizens.

 

[ElKarlo]

Me going on a vacation makes me a guest. Me emigrating makes me a citizen. You clearly don’t understand the difference and the only reason you’re using “guests” is because you’re trying do downplay their status.

And first it was not speaking the language at all, now it’s speaking the language poorly. Fact is you don’t know because (i’m assuming) you’ve never been there. And them not speaking the language says nothing about them being guests or citizens.

No emigrating does not make you a citizen. Being an active part of the community and contributing to your adopted country does.
Ok, I’ll meet you halfway, they are citizens but they are parasites, feeding off their host. I

 

[So Fresh]

No emigrating does not make you a citizen. Being an active part of the community and contributing to your adopted country does.
Ok, I’ll meet you halfway, they are citizens but they are parasites, feeding off their host. I

Well I don’t really care for your xenophobic opinion about immigrants. But at least you’re meeting me halfway

 

[ElKarlo]

Well I don’t really care for your xenophobic opinion about immigrants. But at least you’re meeting me halfway

Ok it’s settled then. Parasitical citizens
Xenophobia means undue fear. I don’t think these events and situations creates undue fear. This, after woke should be what everyone in the west should be worried about. Parallel societies aren’t s thing you want and they end up collapsing upon themselves. Thomas Sowell has a great talk about a similar situation happening in the Austrian Hungarian empire.

 

[Scheme]

I think most people can agree that accepting Muslim refugees has caused a lot of problems in Europe. However you let them in already, that's done and over with. Why provoke them knowing what the outcome will be? You fucked up by letting them in in the first place. It wasn't the refugees who fucked up for being devoutly religious and violently protecting their holy book.

 

[So Fresh]

Ok it’s settled then. Parasitical citizens
Xenophobia means undue fear. I don’t think these events and situations creates undue fear. This, after woke should be what everyone in the west should be worried about. Parallel societies aren’t s thing you want and they end up collapsing upon themselves. Thomas Sowell has a great talk about a similar situation happening in the Austrian Hungarian empire.

 

[So Fresh]

I think most people can agree that accepting Muslim refugees has caused a lot of problems in Europe. However you let them in already, that's done and over with. Why provoke them knowing what the outcome will be? You fucked up by letting them in in the first place. It wasn't the refugees who fucked up for being devoutly religious and violently protecting their holy book.

Yeah most right wing xenophobic people lol

 

[ElKarlo]

Ah ok out your head in the sand and pretend you’re a cool kid. Got it

 

[So Fresh]

Ah ok out your head in the sand and pretend you’re a cool kid. Got it

No it’s not that, I’m just not brainwashed by right wing media, so I’m not really worried about those issues. There are far more important issues to worry about right now.

 

[SanchoMF]

Me going on a vacation makes me a guest. Me emigrating makes me a citizen. You clearly don’t understand the difference and the only reason you’re using “guests” is because you’re trying do downplay their status.

And first it was not speaking the language at all, now it’s speaking the language poorly. Fact is you don’t know because (i’m assuming) you’ve never been there. And them not speaking the language says nothing about them being guests or citizens.

You're right : coming to a country that provides a newcomer everything, only for that person to show their gratitude by spitting on the country's customs and laws doesn't make them a guest, but a total waste of space and waste of breathable air.
Why go through mental gymnastics to stand up for a pack of turds that can only exist because they're capable of abusing the hospitality of others?

 

[tastaylvr]

I don't know anything about this guy but don't doubt you that he's racist.

Doesn't change the principle behind what I'm talking about. And that is newcomers changing the fabric of your society.

Who can and cant change society? You act like making change happen is easy lol

Change is something that just happens naturally over time

 

[So Fresh]

You're right : coming to a country that provides a newcomer everything, only for that person to show their gratitude by spitting on the country's customs and laws doesn't make them a guest, but a total waste of space and waste of breathable air.
Why go through mental gymnastics to stand up for a pack of turds that can only exist because they're capable of abusing the hospitality of others?

That’s a whole lot of assumptions you generated from some people rioting for being disrespected.

But yeah following that logic, why go through mental gymnastics to stand up for a right wing racist douchebag who’s intent is to disrespect a community in another country and provoking riots and violence to cause social unrest for his own benefit.

 

[SanchoMF]

That’s a whole lot of assumptions you generated from some people rioting for being disrespected.

But yeah following that logic, why go through mental gymnastics to stand up for a right wing racist douchebag who’s intent is to disrespect a community in another country and provoking riots and violence to cause social unrest for his own benefit.

Rioting for being disrespected? Yes, totally logical and acceptable behaviour in the face of burning a book in a secular, Nordic country. We're not talking about Baghdad over here.
You would not have the same amount of understanding towards Nordic Resistance Movement, if they'd start breaking shit somewhere over a flag or some other irrelevant shit.

This particular riot is a drop in the ocean, I'm looking at the pretty dire development in the suburbs of the major Swedish cities in the past 20 years and these scumbags do not need some foil-hat wearing troll to work as a catalyst : these trashy losers are totally capable and willing to destroy their own neighbourhoods and the reputation of all immigrants with their own actions.

 

[So Fresh]

Rioting for being disrespected? Yes, totally logical and acceptable behaviour in the face of burning a book in a secular, Nordic country. We're not talking about Baghdad over here.
You would not have the same amount of understanding towards Nordic Resistance Movement, if they'd start breaking shit somewhere over a flag or some other irrelevant shit.

This particular riot is a drop in the ocean, I'm looking at the pretty dire development in the suburbs of the major Swedish cities in the past 20 years and these scumbags do not need some foil-hat wearing troll to work as a catalyst : these trashy losers are totally capable and willing to destroy their own neighbourhoods and the reputation of all immigrants with their own actions.

Stop virtue signalling bro. You don’t care about those neighborhoods or the people living therez Youre just looking for a reason to justify your hatred for muslims/ immigrants. Yes there are problems with immigrant heavy neighborhoods, no this is not because they are muslim and it is not a majority of the people. And these problems do not (solely) stem from them not want to adjust but from multiple complex developments during the last 20 years.

But yeah keep defending the racist right wing creep lol

 

[Islam Imamate]

Rioting for being disrespected? Yes, totally logical and acceptable behaviour in the face of burning a book in a secular, Nordic country. We're not talking about Baghdad over here.
You would not have the same amount of understanding towards Nordic Resistance Movement, if they'd start breaking shit somewhere over a flag or some other irrelevant shit.

This particular riot is a drop in the ocean, I'm looking at the pretty dire development in the suburbs of the major Swedish cities in the past 20 years and these scumbags do not need some foil-hat wearing troll to work as a catalyst : these trashy losers are totally capable and willing to destroy their own neighbourhoods and the reputation of all immigrants with their own actions.

Europeans riot over football games but yeah let's pretend that its only the Muslims who riot for stupid crap.

 

[SanchoMF]

Stop virtue signalling bro. You don’t care about those neighborhoods or the people living therez Youre just looking for a reason to justify your hatred for muslims/ immigrants. Yes there are problems with immigrant heavy neighborhoods, no this is not because they are muslim and it is not a majority of the people. And these problems do not (solely) stem from them not want to adjust but from multiple complex developments during the last 20 years.

But yeah keep defending the racist right wing creep lol

Little did you know that I'm an immigrant myself and I can assure you that I'm not out there rioting like an animal for any cause.
I don't need to look for any reason to be against mass immigration to Europe and especially mass immigration from certain cultures : Why's that?
Because it always plays out the same way, with disproportionate representation in crime, violence and social aide statistics.
It's not for lack of understanding or government funding of the host nations, that it hasn't worked because let's face it, we're talking about billions or trillions of euros that've been showed to accommodate these people, in most cases with a far superior living standards that they've had in their countries of origin.
Only a immature anarchist and/or a naive fool would try to defend the complete failure of the past decades, policies of zero meritocracy or accountability and only understanding and fostering on the expense of the rest of the society.

My problem is that care too much : you don't save the boat from sinking without plugging the holes, meaning that the only way to manage immigration properly is to keep only allow very moderate numbers to immigrate in order to guarantee that they'll be assimilated into the society and won't be left on the outskirts of everything.

 

[SanchoMF]

Europeans riot over football games but yeah let's pretend that its only the Muslims who riot for stupid crap.

Those scumbags rioting over Football should be all put on an island with nothing but themselves.