Reebok payouts for UFC 195!! :|

Would be interesting if somebody could find out how much a fighter like Condit would of made from sponsorships instead.
 
All of a sudden driving a bus doesn't seem like such a bad idea
 
0hm said:
Cut the nonsense. When someone says "not bad for a job that doesn't require an education", they mean that their pay is not bad considering the fact that they didn't have to take out upwards of 100k in loans to land their respective positions (law students - on average - take out around that much in loans, alone).
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Ehm, how do you know that? Seems a bit of a stretch.

And I'm sorry, I forgot how messed up the US educational system is :/
 
nhbfan8080 said:
You mean to change the financial structure of the sport to funnel even more money to Zuffa execs while fighters make less. Its no less random for fighters who still get paid per fight, its just less random for Zuffa execs who will get a stream of money for x number of years for the length of the Reebok contract.
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Randomness on the part of the fighter having to independently secure sponsorship and the like.
 
IamStryker said:
For the champion? It's pretty mediocre to bad considering what fighters used to be able to make from sponsors. Most fighters don't even get 30k look at the numbers. You got top 5 guys getting 5k or less. Pathetic.
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Not bad for the sponsorship unto itself. Do you have the pre-Reebok numbers, by chance?

RE to first post time you quoted me: His point was that they are not doing bad for not having to take out the debt associated with formal education. His/her point was as solid as it gets and not a single person in here has tried to take it on (and they won't).
 
Johnny Rosa said:
Ehm, how do you know that? Seems a bit of a stretch.

And I'm sorry, I forgot how messed up the US educational system is :/
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It is a well documented figure from reliable sources (I was being conservative).


"After tallying up all of these other costs, it is not uncommon for law school graduates to carry a debt burden of between $150,000 and $200,000, and many carry much more."

http://www.americanbar.org/dam/aba/...oung_lawyers_division_report.authcheckdam.pdf
 
0hm said:
It is a well documented figure from reliable sources (I was being conservative).


"After tallying up all of these other costs, it is not uncommon for law school graduates to carry a debt burden of between $150,000 and $200,000, and many carry much more."

http://www.americanbar.org/dam/aba/...oung_lawyers_division_report.authcheckdam.pdf
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I know that, I meant how do you know the guy I was quoting was referring to the insane costs of studying instead of just being a prick.
 
0hm said:
Not bad for the sponsorship unto itself. Do you have the pre-Reebok numbers, by chance?
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I'm sure I can find a lot of quotes if you want me to. Brendan Schaub made over 100k in sponsors alone. That says something right there. There is no way that 10k or under is nearly as good as what the majority of those guys were getting from sponsors.

0hm said:
RE to first post time you quoted me: His point was that they are not doing bad for not having to take out the debt associated with formal education. His/her point was as solid as it gets and not a single person in here has tried to take it on (and they won't).
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I saw at least one guy ho is a pro fighter say that point was not valid. Pro fighters work just as hard and sacrifice just as much for their education. They have to continue paying for it by giving their trainers/managers money from their winnings. That's a big cost that doesn't go away.
 
"Son become an MMA champion you'll make 40k a fight in sponsorship once you're champion; after taxes; that leaves you set for the year"
 
Reebok should use stipe in ads. Firefighter and UFC fighter wears reebok.
 
The Reebok contract is about an upfront lump sum payment to the UFC.

The UFC/Reebok did not have to give the fighters anything. If the fighters don't like it they can fight elsewhere. Lebron James would love to be able to sell real estate on his jersey but he can't.
 
Merman said:
Not bad for a job that requires no education.
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yeah no education.....just years of several hours a day doing mental and physical work and sacrificing your health you fuckwit. There are tons of jobs that require no education and pay well there are succesful business men with little formal education.
Are you seriously that dumb? Those are the highest level of MMA fighters there are if you like the sport then you better want the fighters to get paid accordingly
 
Johnny Rosa said:
I know that, I meant how do you know the guy I was quoting was referring to the insane costs of studying instead of just being a prick.
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I assumed that is what he meant as that is usually what people mean when they say that very same thing.
 
IamStryker said:
I'm sure I can find a lot of quotes if you want me to. Brendan Schaub made over 100k in sponsors alone. That says something right there. There is no way that 10k or under is nearly as good as what the majority of those guys were getting from sponsors.

I saw at least one guy ho is a pro fighter say that point was not valid. Pro fighters work just as hard and sacrifice just as much for their education. They have to continue paying for it by giving their trainers/managers money from their winnings. That's a big cost that doesn't go away.
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You cannot use one instance to demonstrate a trend. That is called an anecdote. You don't really think 100k+ in sponsors was the norm, do you?

The cost in no way, shape, or form mirrors the mandated debt associated with modern education. The point is incredibly valid and will remain so until someone tries to tackle it (once again, no one will).
 
MatRat75 said:
"Son become an MMA champion you'll make 40k a fight in sponsorship once you're champion; after taxes; that leaves you set for the year"
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So you think sponsorship alone ought to leave fighters "set" for the year?
 
ods said:
You people are disturbing. You enjoy watching these men and women put their brains on the line every week while they're grossly underpaid for it. Give me a break.
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or put another way, these men and women put their brains on the line every week while they're grossly underpaid for it.

why do they do it? because it's apparently worth it to them. we spectators are just that- spectators.

btw- my comment has nothing to do with whether i think their disclosed pay is enough.
 
0hm said:
You cannot use one instance to demonstrate a trend. That is called an anecdote. You don't really think 100k+ in sponsors was the norm, do you?

The cost in no way, shape, or form mirrors the mandated debt associated with modern education. The point is incredibly valid and will remain so until someone tries to tackle it (once again, no one will).
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Like I said before I was sure I could find plenty of evidence to support my point so I did, here you go. http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/5/2...eebok-deal-what-fighters-really-think-sponsor . It's plainly obvious to anyone who spends 10 minutes searching that the vast majority of fighters are losing money because of Reebok.

That guy said "Not bad for a job that requires no education". This is wrong on many levels. 1) It is factually wrong. Being a UFC fighters takes a lot of education. Education in regards to knowing how to fight and live the life of being a fighter. You are studying under people who have the education and paying for that education. He is plain wrong. 2) What he said is something you tell people who work at Mcdonalds to make them feel better because you don't need hardly any education/experience/skills to get that job. Being a UFC fighter is 100% different. It is incredibly disrespectful stupid and arrogant to say this to a high level athlete. I could probably go on but I feel that I have made my point.
 
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