Media RDR's thoughts on DDP vs. Khamzat after having trained with both.

[usernamee]

He pops back up at 1:11 by himself.

Yes I wrote that in my post. It doesn't matter if he pops up when he ends up on bottom two seconds later. Kevin Holland popped up as well, then he got choked until his eyes were bloodshot.

You made it sound like Burns easily popped up and that's the end of that story. But when you watch the clip you referred to you see him ending up on bottom and it was the REF that stood him up in the end.

 

[FlowchartRog]

maybe it's you not admitting that DDP is a beast everywhere and there's more to MMA than wrestling. you literally have a guy who TRAINED WITH BOTH telling you he thinks DDP can hang with Khamzat and you're over here from your couch "wElL aCkChUaLLy"

generational grappler could barely hold on to short notice Usman and little Giblert. Khamzat is good, but you're acting like he has the equivalent of the touch of death in striking for grappling, and it's already proven untrue.

 

[mkess101]

Yes, words matter. Then, unfortunately, you shouldn't have written this because it sounds different:

How? He's a generational grappler. Those are my words. Please point out where I said that makes him a perfect or unbeatable fighter.

Go ahead, point it out. I'll wait...

 

[Ramon Antonio]

Yes I wrote that in my post. It doesn't matter if he pops up when he ends up on bottom two seconds later. Kevin Holland popped up as well, then he got choked until his eyes were bloodshot.

You made it sound like Burns easily popped up and that's the end of that story. But when you watch the clip you referred to you see him ending up on bottom and it was the REF that stood him up in the end.

End result is still the same. He couldn't hold him down and control him on the floor. Backing out is a sign of that too. Why work for the takedown so hard and then just stand up if you could've easily controlled him there?

 

[TheNewGame]

We might get to see Khamzat's KO power in that right hand again when he's not cutting to 170lbs, and his right hand isn't busted like it was for the Usman fight.

 

[Rio Ferdinand]

Not going to be easy to stop Dricus in the first two rounds.

But then again, Khamzats wrestling and power is really just on another level.

This is the fight of the year (in the making). Two of the UFC's best P4P going at it in the same division.

I really hope both make weight and turn up to the Octagon.

This is literally the fight I've been waiting for since 2 years ago.

 

[Deleted member 517683]

How? He's a generational grappler. Those are my words. Please point out where I said that makes him a perfect or unbeatable fighter.

Go ahead, point it out. I'll wait...

I do think that a TALENT in grappling, even if it's a generational one, is a big difference from a generational GRAPPLER. I know that even without about 25 years of grappling experience.
Everybody was talking about Bo as a generational wrestler. And we know what happend.
I certainly don't want to start a beef with you, but words were the topic...

 

[chinarice]

I do think that a TALENT in grappling, even if it's a generational one, is a big difference from a generational GRAPPLER. I know that even without about 25 years of grappling experience.
Everybody was talking about Bo as a generational wrestler. And we know what happend.
I certainly don't want to start a beef with you, but words were the topic...

Yeah but everyone who tried to pass Bo off as the same, after having watched him fight is literally too fucking stupid to take seriously.

Comparing Khamzat and Bo fucking Dallas lol c'mon wtf. Might as well compare Max Holloway and Roland Delorme.

Khamzat is literally worlds better than Bo. If you think Bo Dallas is a good or great grappler then Khamzat is a God-tier grappler.

Which male in MMA history have you watched do what Khamzat has done to several opponents in the UFC with his grappling, regardless of their calibre? I'll wait.

 

[Young Calf Kick]

Khamzat by sub rd2

 

[FreedomCricket]

DDP is gonna gain a lot of people's respect with this next one

Crazy to me people are still doubting him.. he's one of the most badass guys in the sport

I get Khamzat is the bogeyman of the divsion, but people act like he is going to walk through DDP which is nuts

RDR knows whats up

You could basically replace "DDP" with "whitaker" in your post and say the same thing before he fought Khamzat and we all know how that turned out.

 

[USA!USA!]

You could basically replace "DDP" with "whitaker" in your post and say the same thing before he fought Khamzat and we all know how that turned out.

Whittaker was not champion when they fought - DDP is literally at the top of his game right now. I like Rob but it’s not the same at all.

 

[188912345]

They trained together back in 2020, when Khamzat was a WW with a couple of years experience.
Dricus went pro 5 years before Khamzat and went up to MW in 2018.

Everyone who nitpick the fights where Khamzat "almost lost" also ignore the actual losses and competitive fights Dricus has had.
Also ignore that one of Khamzat's competetve fights was at 170, and another one involved him getting injured.

We also always hear the "I'm done underestimating DDP" and about how big and strong he is, but there's obviously more to fighting/wrestling/grappling than pure strength.

I'm not seeing anyone saying they're done underestimating Khamzat, instead trying to find reasons to cope for why they were wrong before ( Whittaker's "freak injury", etc).

 

[Conan the K-9]

Which male in MMA history have you watched do what Khamzat has done to several opponents in the UFC with his grappling, regardless of their calibre? I'll wait.

Pantoja pretty much dominates his opponents with grappling and does this in championship fights. But you are right, there are not many fighters that are so dominant with their grappling.

 

[svmr_db]

Some of the comments about Khamzat are truly crazy. "Generational" is one of the best.

What has he really shown in the last few years? The fact that he broke Whitaker's jaw with a choke isn't an indicator for me. It certainly takes strength, but a lot of it was probably also a lot of luck. Sometimes it just takes the right angle without much force. Or Whitaker helped when he tried to escape. Or both.

He didn't even "break his jaw" either lol, that was misinformation from the beginning. He damaged Whittaker's teeth & Whittaker went into the fight with his teeth already messed up.

 

[balkanbomber85]

This is finally a fight where I can just kick back and enjoy all the chaos and violence without having a horse in the race. On one hand, it would be incredible if Kamzat just ragdolled DDP and established himself as an unstoppable force no one dares to challenge. On the other hand, I worry that could mean the next MW Championship fight might not happen until October 2026 in Abu Daby. And honestly, it’s hard to be against DDP when you watch his journey — how he’s constantly on the brink of defeat, stumbling around like a klutz. People, myself included, just love rooting for those underdogs who fight tooth and nail to prove everyone wrong.

 

[10000yearsold]

Khamz has that innovator shit that can surprise opponents. They really dont know what he’s gonna do.
Dricus, ya pretty much know what he’s doing. He’s game wherever it goes, super resilient, super determined, and an elite dude.
Khamz has to be very hungry here and come to kill.

Excited for it, and also excited for when RDR gets his shot at either of these two. I think he’s something very special as well.

 

[Deleted member 517683]

Yeah but everyone who tried to pass Bo off as the same, after having watched him fight is literally too fucking stupid to take seriously.

Comparing Khamzat and Bo fucking Dallas lol c'mon wtf. Might as well compare Max Holloway and Roland Delorme.

Khamzat is literally worlds better than Bo. If you think Bo Dallas is a good or great grappler then Khamzat is a God-tier grappler.

Which male in MMA history have you watched do what Khamzat has done to several opponents in the UFC with his grappling, regardless of their calibre? I'll wait.

As far as I remember, I didn't compare anyone, and certainly not Bo and Khamzat. I honestly don't know how you came to that conclusion.

And it certainly wasn't my opinion of Bo, about whom I couldn't give a damn. It was the media and/or the UFC itself to hype him up.

Besides, the discussion with @mkess101 was about a different context. And you would have to start reading further ahead to understand this context.
If you want to be impressed by Khamzat, go ahead. I don´t have a problem with it. I´m not on that waggon, sorry. And I've already explained why that is.

To answer your question which male: Khabib, and he could do it for 5 rounds if nessessary.

I can't imagine having offended anyone.

But it seems pretty easy to do on Sherdog these days.

 

[chinarice]

Pantoja pretty much dominates his opponents with grappling and does this in championship fights. But you are right, there are not many fighters that are so dominant with their grappling.

You could argue one time vs Wilson Reis. That's about it.

 

[188912345]

To answer your question which male: Khabib, and he could do it for 5 rounds if nessessary.

Even Khabib didn't have that many fights where he didn't even get punched a single time.

A LW-sized Khamzat wouldn't need 4 rounds to finish Conor.

He also likely wouldn't need 3 rounds for Poirier, go 5 rounds with Iaquinta, 3 rounds with Barboza, and overall have that many decision wins compared to finishes.

I don't think there have been any grapplers who have been as dominant in the early rounds, so it's definitely reasonable to say that he's a generational talent.

 

[chinarice]

As far as I remember, I didn't compare anyone, and certainly not Bo and Khamzat. I honestly don't know how you came to that conclusion.

And it certainly wasn't my opinion of Bo, about whom I couldn't give a damn. It was the media and/or the UFC itself to hype him up.

Besides, the discussion with @mkess101 was about a different context. And you would have to start reading further ahead to understand this context.
If you want to be impressed by Khamzat, go ahead. I don´t have a problem with it. I´m not on that waggon, sorry. And I've already explained why that is.

To answer your question which male: Khabib, and he could do it for 5 rounds if nessessary.

I can't imagine having offended anyone.

But it seems pretty easy to do on Sherdog these days.

Khabibi in all 13 of his fights never did what Khamzat did to guys like Phillips, Mckee, Meerschaert, Li, Holland and Whittaker. Basically flawless victoried all of these guys lol

Sounds like your bias is clouding your judgement.

*Edit* My bad, I can give Khabib the Tavares fight. That guy did nothing.