Social Putin or Trudeau?

[Cole train]

I don't get what's so "shitty" about this picture. There are plenty of window views, in Scarborough, Ontario that look similar in the winter.

Its kinda bad pic but houses are very run down(had more on last phone)Cant see from that far

 

[ViD]

Yup i do

Should see how houses look on inside, had doctor come in once asking how you manage to live here

And you’re wrong. While obviously Canada as a whole is a more developed country, but more developed cities in Russia are on par or better than Canadian ones. The guy I was replying to called Russia as a “third world shithole”, well he’s up for a cultural shock if he comes to some Russian cities

 

[Cole train]

And you’re wrong. While obviously Canada as a whole is a more developed country, but more developed cities in Russia are on par or better than Canadian ones. The guy I was replying to called Russia as a “third world shithole”, well he’s up for a cultural shock if he comes to some Russian cities

Thing is most of russia is regions which pretty much are third world

I mean 20 percent of population lives without plumbing

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rbc.ru/rbcnews/economics/02/04/2019/5ca1d7949a79475d1c2f6e4a

Either way kinda going off topic here

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

I don't get what's so "shitty" about this picture. There are plenty of window views, in Scarborough, Ontario that look similar in the winter.

It actually does look like Scarborough.

 

[ViD]

Thing is most of russia is regions which pretty much are third world

I mean 20 percent of population lives without plumbing

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rbc.ru/rbcnews/economics/02/04/2019/5ca1d7949a79475d1c2f6e4a

Either way kinda going off topic here

I mean if you live in Estonia you understand what size of countries means. There’s a hundred of Estonias in Russia and 60% of its territories located in extreme weather conditions, of course those regions are very much underdeveloped, but the European part of the country is a different story

 

[Cole train]

I mean if you live in Estonia you understand what size of countries mean. There’s a hundred Estonias in Russia and 60% of its territories located in extreme weather conditions, of course those regions are very much underdeveloped, but the European part of the country is a different story

Well i agree that saint pete and moscow are great for tourism.

 

[12ga.]

Neither. Putin is not suited to run a western country with his wet work and shutting down press and shit. He's good for Russia though which is wild in many ways. Trudy is a cheap labor neo-liberal who would flood country and replace everyone with cheap labor.

Probably Bernie sanders or more likely Dennis Kusinish if I could appoint someone.

 

[j123]

I don't get what's so "shitty" about this picture. There are plenty of window views, in Scarborough, Ontario that look similar in the winter.

Scarb not that bad for the most part, if you're in Galloway or Tuxedo court maybe I guess, but most of it is still fine. You prob have a better quality of live in scarb than most do under even the big cities in Russia. Having the same quality of life you have to be upper echelon to achieve that, if you make more than $900 a month there, you're basically borderline oligarch anyways

 

[Bald1]

Yeah except average saint pete or moscow or kazan neighbourhood looks like this.



Pic from window where i used to live in saint pete
Dont get started on regions

People in north America just see apartment buildings covered in snow. The Hungarian versions used to be called kockaházak (that indicates family homes now) or Kádár-kocka way back and aren't anything like what we see here in Canada, quality wise. Crumbling, concrete shit holes that are more like accomodations in a dog pound than homes for people. A single elevator that works occasionally, no insulation or separation between units, no comfort, quality or privacy. Complete and utter shit holes that would have been condemned here decades ago. My aunt still lives in one. Shit's more like a prison than a home, meant to warehouse people. Relics of central planning in 10 year increments. And that's in Hungary, an iron curtain country that was way more westernized than many others.

 

[Cole train]

People in north America just see apartment buildings covered in snow. The Hungarian versions used to be called kockaházak (that indicates family homes now) or Kádár-kocka way back and aren't anything like what we see here in Canada, quality wise. Crumbling, concrete shit holes that are more like accomodations in a dog pound than homes for people. A single elevator that works occasionally, no insulation or separation between units, no comfort, quality or privacy. Complete and utter shit holes that would have been condemned here decades ago. My aunt still lives in one. Shit's more like a prison than a home, meant to warehouse people. Relics of central planning in 10 year increments. And that's in Hungary, an iron curtain country that was way more westernized than many others.

I mean they typical "commieblocks" you know what the word means

 

[Bald1]

I mean they typical "commieblocks" you know what the word means

Yup. I've worked on all kinds of old ass highrises and apartment buildings here as well as the Toronto area. They're spaceships and luxury accomodations compared to that crap.

 

[Halifax]

Yeah, I hate Trudeau pretty passionately. I still wouldn't vote to have Putin.

Who the fuck would willingly vote in a dictator?

Unless you mean Putin with Canadian current laws and rules, in which case he would be totally ineffectual, wouldn't have a private secret police able to do shit to those who speak out against him and couldn't lay the groundwork for that kind of takeover in a lifetime, and wouldn't be able to do shit without getting parliament in his corner.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Yeah except average saint pete or moscow or kazan neighbourhood looks like this.



Pic from window where i used to live in saint pete
Dont get started on regions

that's actually not that bad. grew up in much worse.
i;ve been to russia a bunch and i love moscow, it's pretty great.
the only place i didn't like in russia was Volgograd, maybe it's because i was there in march and everything was rainy, snowy, shitty and muddy EVERYWHERE. no wonder the germans lost there, i was depressed one hour in.

 

[Post 2 Decision]

I'm Canadian and I absolutely hate Trudope, but there's no way I'd trade that retard for a man as evil as Putin.

Put them together and you get Poutine

 

[Yehudim]

That’s nonsense. The only time you might expect some potential pushback from the top government is only if you become a top opposition leader like Navalny. Until then, you can crap on Putin as much as you want and nothing will happen. However, lower level politicians might try to get at you just to lick Putin’s arse at your expense. And I am not talking about killing, big political murders haven’t happened in Russia for many years, but it’s possible you might get fired from your job or a random lawsuit might be made up against you.

For a conservative mind, Russia is a much more free country than Canada. You can publicly state your opinion on a range of topics without much consequences like being cancelled.

This isn’t legally true anymore, as “blatant disrespect” against Putin is now a jail-able offense, even if it isn’t enforced at a low level.

And the difference between losing your job in Russia for opinions and Canada is that the state either directly kicks you out of your government job (thanks to a bloated public sector) or pressures the private sector to kick you out. In Canada it is a totally private affair.

Neither are desirable, but one is certainly better than the other.

 

[Yehudim]

What exactly do we even consider when judging if a city is better than another in a different country?

Moscow and St. Petersburg, as I understand, are wealthy, world class cities, but are the people (the average people) as rich as even the average Canadian? What about comparing the top tier of Canadian cities to them? I doubt that, but I haven’t actually looked at the evidence.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

Russia won't get better either, for as long as they have an operative of that leftist regime in charge.

It's obvious that the biggest regret Putin has about the USSR is that it collapsed. He'd definitely prefer it if the Soviet Union still existed.

Putin is like a lot of former leftists in the sense that he feels like the "experiment" would have worked as long as they had hollowly pandered to people's conservative sentiments. He refuses to admit that it was a fundamentally flawed project, and that being a "right-winger"/nationalist/conservative is about more than just visiting a church every now and then to keep up public appearances for the masses.

A life-long bureaucrat, corrupted by the system, he's just utterly incapable of comprehending what it truly means to serve the public, and the nation.

He's worse than the communists. He realized he could boost Russia GDP by selling oil but he is also enriching himself in the process.
As flawed as the Soviet Union was leaders like Stalin were working to fulfill a goal that went beyond making money. And it showed, the Soviets couldn't make money and still were able to defeat the Nazis and foil the Americans time and time again.
If Putin was the leader in 1941 Russia would have fallen to the Nazis just as the Tsar fell in 1917.

 

[flashNsmash]

Yeah except average saint pete or moscow or kazan neighbourhood looks like this.



Pic from window where i used to live in saint pete
Dont get started on regions

looks like dartmouth, nova scotia to me bud

 

[TheGreatA]

He's worse than the communists. He realized he could boost Russia GDP by selling oil but he is also enriching himself in the process.
As flawed as the Soviet Union was leaders like Stalin were working to fulfill a goal that went beyond making money. And it showed, the Soviets couldn't make money and still were able to defeat the Nazis and foil the Americans time and time again.
If Putin was the leader in 1941 Russia would have fallen to the Nazis just as the Tsar fell in 1917.

I wouldn't necessarily say worse because atleast he's not actively murdering his population or using them as slave labor. But he's certainly more incompetent.

Russia becoming a major power again is just not happening under his watch, if it did it would've already happened in the past 20 years of his rule. Instead we're just witnessing mediocrity and stagnation.

It's not a great situation for Finland either because USSR was one of our major trading partners and helped our economy tremendously.

 

[K1levelgrappler]

LAW AND ORDER