Putin makes Holocaust denial a criminal offence punishable by up to five years in jail.

[Deleted member 429137]

@nac386 is killing it in this thread.

I'm not sure how I feel about this law, but it's worth noting that it would have prevented a dozen posters' idiotic contributions to this thread.

 

[irish_thug]

Should do the same with flat-earthers.

 

[Andy Capp]

If that's what the Red Cross says, yes.

It's not what they said.
"The Red Cross never issued such a statistic, nor has it offered any estimate of the number of victims who perished in the camps. In its bulletin of February 1, 1978, the Red Cross declared that it had never compiled, much less published such statistics.

The 300,000 figure was actually taken from the Swiss paper, "Die Tat," in 1955. This estimate, however, was only a figure for the number of Germans who perished in the concentration camps. No mention of any Red Cross figures, however, was ever made by the paper."
http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/site/pp.asp?c=gvKVLcMVIuG&b=394667

 

[Andy Capp]

So let me get this straight, actual documented deaths take a backseat to speculative claims based on nothing? They can claim these numbers are misrepresented but the fact that the only documented death tolls all seem to reflect the same number says something. And operating under the basis of speculation does nothing but further push wonky narrative's free of facts.

Here's what actual documentation says. Stop believing in made up shit.
"The 6 million figure can be demonstrated by comparing Europe's Jewish population before and after the war. Even after making allowances for those who fled Europe and others who could be expected to die due to natural causes, there are nearly 6,000,000 people who cannot be accounted for.

Authentic German documents confirm the slaughter of Jews in the millions. The famous "Korherr Report,"(named after Richard Korherr, chief statistician for the SS) puts the number of Jewish losses at more than 2,454,000 by the end of 1942 alone. The war in Europe would not end until May, 1945.

The Anglo-American Commission of Enquiry, meeting in April 1946, put the total Jewish Holocaust losses at 5,721,500. On the basis of wartime statistical reports on ghettos, concentration camps and mass murder operations carried out by the Nazis, historian and international jurist, Jacob Robinson, arrived at a figure of 5,820,960. German historian, Helmut Krausnick, put the number of Jewish losses nearer to seven million. While the exact figure will never be known, scholars of the Holocaust find the rounded-off figure of six million to be in line with all the evidence."

 

[HomerThompson]

That's where your wrong, kiddo. All that proves is that they've been planning out this fake holocaust that never happened for decades so they can get support for their state.

*you're

 

[Fawlty]

Historically they've been ousted from over 100 different nations. It certainly can't be because of their actions though, the rest of the world must be nasty antisemites. And just to be clear, let's not confuse anti-semitism with anti-Zionism.

Orthodox Jews are quite critical of Israel and their largely secular population of Askenazi Jews who support a zionists government. Keep in mind that genetically, many of these ashkenazi Jews are actually more similar to eastern Asian Khazarians than their actual Semitic counterparts.

I already know that you believe the Jews have it coming. It requires zero effort on your part to convince me that you're a bedwetting Nazi fuckboy.

 

[Viva]

I already know that you believe the Jews have it coming. It requires zero effort on your part to convince me that you're a bedwetting Nazi fuckboy.

I have no qualms with the Jewish people. My gripe is with zionists who blindly support the state of Israel and its various nefarious dealings. But you and your buddies in your echo chamber can't seem to understand that.

 

[Fawlty]

I have no qualms with the Jewish people. My gripe is with zionists who blindly support the state of Israel and its various nefarious dealings. But you and your buddies in your echo chamber can't seem to understand that.

I'll pass on the Skinhead Taqiya, thanks.

 

[Viva]

I'll pass on the Skinhead Taqiya, thanks.

Just saying, I'm not at all interested in trite snark. If you want to actually discuss my beliefs without hurling shit that's fine, but from what I gather you're simply here to shitpost.

 

[Fawlty]

Just saying, I'm not at all interested in trite snark. If you want to actually discuss my beliefs without hurling shit that's fine, but from what I gather you're simply here to shitpost.

You are a shit bullseye and will remain a shit bullseye until you find your way out the door.

 

[Viva]

You are a shit bullseye and will remain a shit bullseye until you find your way out the door.

Well damn, who knows shit better than Mr. Shit For Brains himself.

 

[Fawlty]

Well damn, who knows shit better than Mr. Shit For Brains himself.

This is how it works each time with you people. "Just want an open and honest discussion" where you get to profess all of your lies without being called a liar, revere purely evil maniacs without being stigmatized, and imply that genocide victims deserved it without being banished. What happens every single time is you get shown the fucking door. And you'll be shown this one, and the next one, and you'll keep being shown doors until you change your mind or lose it. Or murder innocent people.

 

[Bob Charlie]

Just saying, I'm not at all interested in trite snark. If you want to actually discuss my beliefs without hurling shit that's fine, but from what I gather you're simply here to shitpost.

No one gives a fuq what you think. Everything you put down here is shit. You are a low-man. You don’t matter IRL or here so don’t pretend that other people buy into the fantasies you indulge, such that you aren’t a weakling or that you don’t hate based on race or that you are articulate and intelligent.

 

[Viva]

This is how it works each time with you people. "Just want an open and honest discussion" where you get to profess all of your lies without being called a liar, revere purely evil maniacs without being stigmatized, and imply that genocide victims deserved it without being banished. What happens every single time is you get shown the fucking door. And you'll be shown this one, and the next one, and you'll keep being shown doors until you change your mind or lose it. Or murder innocent people.

What do you mean, "you people"?

Sounds like slave owner bullshit but okay.

 

[Gandhi]

I'm aware.

However I believe observable data to be more compelling evidence than speculation. There were likely many deaths that were undocumented, however to suggest that a 5+ million discrepancy exists should be a red flag that something isn't right. I'm not going to continue discussing this topic, as Limbo Pete has made it clear such topics are verboten, however I'm quite familiar to many of the criticisms against my arguments. And as I've said before, those criticisms are founded in speculation and not documented facts. Therefore I don't believe them to be any more valid than the ones I've compiled.

Translation: I only believe the evidence that supports my view becuase it was written on a document by a Nazis, all other evidence is by default speculation.

 

[Viva]

Translation: I only believe the evidence that supports my view becuase it was written on a document by a Nazis, all other evidence is by default speculation.

Typically a claim without any sort of documented evidence behind it is commonly considered speculation.

Why is this so hard to understand?

 

[Gandhi]

You're entitled to your opinion, though it discourages my hope for the human race that you not only ignore the entirety of human scholarship on the subject of the Holocaust, but that you imply that there might be a conspiracy regarding it

Well if we could actually commit things like a holocaust, this little denier should not really be a dial mover for you.

 

[Viva]

No one gives a fuq what you think. Everything you put down here is shit. You are a low-man. You don’t matter IRL or here so don’t pretend that other people buy into the fantasies you indulge, such that you aren’t a weakling or that you don’t hate based on race or that you are articulate and intelligent.

You sound like quite the angry little man.

 

[Shoemaker]

Modern Neo-Nazis are social outcasts who are just excited to finally feel like they are a part of something.

That’s the saddest Punisher logo I’ve ever seen. It looks like a Halloween themed fro comb. I mean, it’s got a lazy eye for Christ sake. The only thing he’s punishing is depth perception.

 

[Fawlty]

What do you mean, "you people"?

Sounds like slave owner bullshit but okay.

"You people" are white supremacist worms who idolize a monster, violently hate an entire ethnic group without cause, and seek to spread your message of hatred by any means necessary. Whether by lies, or manipulating vulnerable people, taking over communities, or committing acts of terror against innocents. You attempt to ingratiate yourselves into groups and peel off the weak ones. You marry fat, stupid women. You claim oppression whenever it suits you. You are armed, and you are anticipating and instigating a fight. You are violent people who seek to perpetuate violence. You are cowards, but that does not mean you are not dangerous. The only reason you are not the worst people in the world is because you've righteously had the shit kicked out of you from Berlin to Montgomery to Leith. And the civilized world is going to keep it that way. You are the enemy of civilization.

That is what I mean by "you people."