Protesters blocks car, then one shoots the driver

[brother mouzone]

Protesters were just standing their ground, just like George Zimmerman.

Stand your ground never played into that court case at all. Showing your ignorance lol

 

[Deleted member 159002]

That's not what a non-state actor means.

If a state actor is not someone doing work on behalf of the government, what do you think a non-state actor is?

 

[Rational Poster]

If a state actor is not someone doing work on behalf of the government, what do you think a non-state actor is?

A non state actor relates specifically to international individuals or groups that exert some type of influence and are not allied to any specific country. Like Al-Qaeda or ISIS.

American citizens are neither state actors (Unless specifically employed as such) or non-state actors. They're just citizens.

 

[Deleted member 159002]

A non state actor relates specifically to international individuals or groups that exert some type of influence and are not allied to any specific country. Like Al-Qaeda or ISIS.

American citizens are neither state actors (Unless specifically employed as such) or non-state actors. They're just citizens.

How do you know that non-state actors "relates specifically to international individuals or groups that exert some type of influence and are not allied to any specific country"?

 

[Rational Poster]

How do you know that non-state actors "relates specifically to international individuals or groups that exert some type of influence and are not allied to any specific country"?

Because that's like, the definition man.

Dictionary

non·state ac·tor

noun
plural noun: non-state actors

1. an individual or organization that has significant political influence but is not allied to any particular country or state.

In international relations, non-state actors (NSAs) are individuals or groups that hold influence and which are wholly or partly independent of a sovereign state or state.[1]

The interests, structure, and influence of NSAs vary widely. For example, among NSAs are corporations, media organizations, business magnates, people's liberation movements, lobby groups, religious groups, aid agencies, and violent non-state actors such as paramilitary forces.

 

[rob mafia]

Carefully read that page, he made multiple posts and I responded to multiple of them.

...so after whining about things you posted not being in a video (lolwut), you are now complaining that you got caught citing the wrong post? dat username.

 

[Rational Poster]

...so after whining about things you posted not being in a video (lolwut), you are now complaining that you got caught citing the wrong post? dat username.

Huh? I quoted multiple of his posts, and you responded to both of those responses.

 

[Mark Hunts FIST]

We are getting close to the inevitable explosion.

"I hope I'm wrong"

 

[Deleted member 159002]

Because that's like, the definition man.

Dictionary

non·state ac·tor

noun
plural noun: non-state actors

1. an individual or organization that has significant political influence but is not allied to any particular country or state.

In international relations, non-state actors (NSAs) are individuals or groups that hold influence and which are wholly or partly independent of a sovereign state or state.[1]

The interests, structure, and influence of NSAs vary widely. For example, among NSAs are corporations, media organizations, business magnates, people's liberation movements, lobby groups, religious groups, aid agencies, and violent non-state actors such as paramilitary forces.

These protesters are lobbyists and they have significant political influence.

So tell me why people should recognize them as authorities.

 

[Rational Poster]

These protesters are lobbyists and they have significant political influence.

So tell me why people should recognize them as authorities.

The protesters are not lobbyists, they're just American citizens exercising their constitutional rights.

They don't have any authority over you and you don't have any authority to hit them with your car.

 

[Rational Poster]

We are getting close to the inevitable explosion.

"I hope I'm wrong"

You've been consistently wrong for years so I think it's a safe bet you'll continue to be wrong.

 

[Deleted member 159002]

The protesters are not lobbyists, they're just American citizens exercising their constitutional rights.

They don't have any authority over you and you don't have any authority to hit them with your car.

They're actors and they're exercising authority over other people that the state hasn't delegated them. Hence they're non-state actors. If they're dictating the terms under which Americans can use public roads, they are exercising authority over other people.

 

[Rational Poster]

They're actors and they're not exercising authority over other people that the state hasn't delegated them. Hence they're non-state actors. If they're dictating the terms under which Americans can use public roads, they are exercising authority over other people.

No they're American citizens exercising their constitutional rights.

They're not exerting any authority. They're just protesting in the road.

 

[Barteh]

Because that's like, the definition man.

Dictionary

non·state ac·tor

noun
plural noun: non-state actors

1. an individual or organization that has significant political influence but is not allied to any particular country or state.

In international relations, non-state actors (NSAs) are individuals or groups that hold influence and which are wholly or partly independent of a sovereign state or state.[1]

The interests, structure, and influence of NSAs vary widely. For example, among NSAs are corporations, media organizations, business magnates, people's liberation movements, lobby groups, religious groups, aid agencies, and violent non-state actors such as paramilitary forces.

So would antifa or BLM people be non-state actors? They are organizations that have significant political influence.

 

[Islam Imamate]

This is why we drive.

 

[Rational Poster]

So would antifa or BLM people be non-state actors? They are organizations that have significant political influence.

No they're domestic political groups.

Maybe some antifa groups would fit that description, but not all. Majority of protesters aren't antifa though.

 

[Deleted member 159002]

No they're American citizens exercising their constitutional rights.

They're not exerting any authority. They're just protesting in the road.

Being an American citizen and being a non-state actor aren't mutually exclusive.

If someone is essentially telling someone, "No, you can't travel on this public road until I grant you the privilege", he is exercising authority over another person.

 

[Barteh]

No they're domestic political groups.

Maybe some antifa groups would fit that description, but not all. Majority of protesters aren't antifa though.

So is Taliban a domestic group in Afghanistan but only considered a non-state actor for things they do in other countries?

Also BLM isn't that domestic because there's been plenty of BLM protests in European countries as well.

 

[Sonnyboi83]

People should watch 2nd video and make their judgement. From what I've gathered
-car driving slowly, beeping horn for people to move out of the way
-protesters hitting car, refuses to move
-a protester had a gun pointed at car at all time, fired a shot
-driver panicked and drove through the crowd

I don't blame the driver fearing for their safety

 

[Rational Poster]

Being an American citizen and being a non-state actor aren't mutually exclusive.

If someone is essentially telling someone, "No, you can't travel on this public road until I grant you the privilege", he is exercising authority over another person.

Even if they were non-state actors, which they aren't. It's still a felony to hit them with your car. If they were an illegal alien, it's still illegal for you to hit them with your car.

They're not exerting any authority because they have none, they're just being a nuisance and you're just a psycho desperately looking to rationalize hitting someone with you car.