Poll: Which Fighters Did Stipe Beat in Their Prime?

[Melas Chasma]

It's close but, Ngannou wasn't in his prime 2 years ago, a little bit too inexperienced. DC and Werdum were both little past it.

The only fighter who was at the peak of his prime when Miocic beat him was Roy Nelson.

 

[MirRocksFedor]

DC hit Stipe so much in the rematch that he gassed. He gassed because he is out of his prime. A younger DC could've pounded on Stipe's face for 5 full rounds. Just because he won his previous fights doesn't mean he was in his athletic prime. It only means his B game is still better than most fighter's A game. If the first fight against Stipe would've gone to the 4th round DC would probably have lost that one too.

You have 0 clue if that's true.

DC did land a blind shot on Stipe in the first fight which Stipe clearly prepared for.

DC went in over confident and it cost him.

Again a guy losing doesnt mean his prime is over. Sometimes people lose in their Prime.

Nog was on the best run of his career when Mir finished him.

Sometimes competition just gets better.

 

[VVarhead]

Anyone who says dc is past his prime is insane..

lol.
Nobody past 35 is in their biological physical prime. That's a scientific fact. No matter how they perform.

 

[strebitel86]

They rushed Ngannou to the contendership, but I think a rematch will be harder this time.

 

[Ruthless_swag]

no way he beat the best version of DC. prime DC athletically was the one in strikeforce. Doc's skill level was high vs stipe in both fights buy he wasn't in his physical prime.

prime DC at his best beats stipe at his best.

 

[BFoe]

Old Werdum at his prime in the ufc? Lol
ngannou in his prime?? Wtf it was his third fight or something lol.

It will be easier to measure Werdum’s prime in the future, I think. Even though he isn’t young by fighting standards, I consider the time of the Stipe fight to be his prime because rather than declining, Werdum was actually improving. His work with Cordero resulted in major improvements in his striking; the Werdum who fought Browne or Hunt was a better overall fighter than the version of Werdum we saw in Strikeforce, despite age.

 

[acannxr]

There needs to be a distinction between technical prime and physical prime.

The only fighter who was in their physical prime whom Miocic defeated was Ngannou, but the latter wasn't in his technical prime. Werdum and Cormier were in their technical primes, but way past their physical primes.

Heavyweights can get away with old age (relative to other fights) because speed and reflexes play less of a factor at Heavyweight, which is why .500 fighters like Mark Hunt were able to remain in the top ten for a decade; the Heavyweight division has the worst turnover rate in all of MMA.

 

[Shaddows]

People need to separate someone being good with being in their prime.

Francis was too fresh, just arrived at the top and had no experience against a well rounded guy like Stipe.

and DC, despite being LHW champ, was clearly past his prime, though still fighting at a high level.


The only guy I can say for sure was at the top of his game was Werdum.

 

[Mr Moist]

Recent fight records > age. We should be looking at fighter rankings and wins when talking about Stipe’s opponent, and not just age. So is age and arguing when a fighter is still in the physical prime, more important than their recent wins. I can literally could through all fighters records and say the reason why someone lost is that they were too green or too washed up. We’re people saying Werdum was washed up after he starched Cain? Where people saying Ngannou was too green before the Stipe fight? And if that was the case, then why was Ngannou favored. People saying Stipe never beat anybody good or in their prime are just as bad as the people who say Fedor fought mostly cans.

 

[Mr Moist]

So when Stipe beats Ngonnou’s ass again, will he be considered too green or past his prime? Also Stipe is in his late 30’s, so all wins against him don’t count because he is past his prime.

 

[dildos]

DC, Francis and Werdum.

 

[Towerworld]

Physical prime, definitely.

Prime as a fighter, not always. Experience counts.

Thats what he means though physically they are past prime, but still their improving skills, experience and fight iq allow them to be competitive at the highest level. Fedor however only relied on his athletism once he lost that, he had no chance of keeping up with modern more technical fighters.

 

[Grenades]

Stipe has two wins against significant prime HW fighters: Francis and Werdum. Cormier was a significant win against a non-prime HW (age 40, almost retired).

Cormier was also the LHW champ just one fight before. And the HW champ when Stipe beat him. Sounds like he was still in his prime.

 

[Grenades]

This. Imo a prime cain beats stipe and so does composed ngannou.

Fiction can be fun.

 

[Grenades]

lol.
Nobody past 35 is in their biological physical prime. That's a scientific fact. No matter how they perform.

Do you even realize how badly you’re contradicting yourself? How else would you measure a fighter’s prime other than by their performances?

 

[Taric]

Experience counts.

Very rarely does experience equate to winning fights. More often than not it's youth, athleticism, and being less shop worn than their opponents that will get the W.

 

[Serge421]

Anyone who says dc is past his prime is insane. I hate DC but he was pushing a pace, throwing bombs, eating bombs, and the slamming stipe. no ordinary 40 yr old could ever do.

Plus he just dispatched Black Beast with ease prior to the Stipe fight. Not to mention he was the champ at the time.

 

[VVarhead]

Do you even realize how badly you’re contradicting yourself? How else would you measure a fighter’s prime other than by their performances?

You must be 12 or some shit. Go talk to a biologist about a humans prime physical condition and when it occurs.

 

[Natural Order]

You have 0 clue if that's true...

Nog was on the best run of his career when Mir finished him.

LOL, talk about having zero clue.....

 

[MCS]

no top guy, but it's hard to be priming in defeat