Poll: Which Fighters Did Stipe Beat in Their Prime?

Which fighters did Stipe beat in their prime?

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themiketoth said:
Anyone who says dc is past his prime is insane. I hate DC but he was pushing a pace, throwing bombs, eating bombs, and the slamming stipe. no ordinary 40 yr old could ever do.
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But Prime would be his best years, which is different for everyone, do you think the Cormier that fought Stipe the second time was the best version of him? Legit question, I do not know myself, but I'm sure the mileage caught to him.
 
kingjim said:
Hahaha member since 2018... please noob millennial. I was watching mma when you were on your mums titty
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Great, great...

Then, prove it, mate.
Who was the closest to armbar Fedor durin´his whole career?
 
Franklin U. said:
Sheeple need to stop. Sherdog world is the place where you can question any win by anyone for whatever reason.
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I agree, I just think we look like the stereotypical blockheads when we resort to name calling and general tomfuckerry.
 
Hatorade said:
I was actually training and competing in amateur MMA fights during Fedor's prime, and I've been watching MMA since UFC 4. I'm not some kid that just started watching this sport, and I've already stated in this thread that a lot of Fedor's biggest nut-huggers are actually newbs just trying to sound knowledgeable about the sport.

Fedor is Jim Brown. He was ahead of his time, and will always be considered one of the greatest if not the greatest, but with that said, if you stuck big Jim behind an early 1980's Los Angeles Rams offensive line and had him competing against athletes just one generation after his, he wasn't putting up a 2k season like Eric Dickerson did. Brown had the advantage of competing against inferior competition. It doesn't take away from his legacy or his greatness because that was the level of competition at the time, and he dominated like no other. Fedor is a little different in that he was the best in his era in a VERY young sport that evolved a lot quicker than he did, but it's still sorta the same scenario.

How is Stipe better? The best version of Stipe would more often than not win if the best version of Fedor and him fought. That's how he's better. Fedor is still greater, and was more dominant that Stipe, but it was against much weaker competition. You mention Fedor's submission game just like a lot of people do in regards to how well rounded he was. Well, his sub game was good because he was facing lots of fighters that had no sub defense. The second he stopped facing those types of fighters, he stopped catching his opponents in submissions. The last fighter he actually cought in a sub was Hong Man Choi. He beat Timmy with a choke, but he rocked him standing first.



How would Stipe beat Fedor? The same way Big Foot did. His long straight punches would come right down the pipe and eat Fedor up in the ex-changeless. Fedor would not be able to take Sipe down or keep him there, much less sub him. Stipe would dictate that the fight would stay on the feet, and Fedor would get busted up all day.
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Lol, Stipe is nothing like Bigfoot on as much legal testosterone as he could take. He also wouldn't be fighting a Fedor that had lost his passion years before when his Sambo streak was broken (the first sign of decline) and it showed in the Arlovski and Rogers fight leading to the inevitable Werdum loss.

This had nothing to do with "the sport evolving", especially considering what fighters are " evolving" into is what Fedor already was and even still few if any at HW have matched his well roundedness and ability to win in any possible scenario, the sport didn't "evolve" Fedor devolved and switched his style from a methodical well rounded game planner into a reckless brawler who just wants to get in and get out as quickly as possible.

As for your "why Stipe beats Fedor" you're saying nothing, just stating an opinion with no evidence to back it up. Crocop in his prime was a much better striker than Stipe, he didn't come close to doing what you claim Stipe would. Mark Hunt couldn't do it, Semmy Schilt couldn't do it.

When he was in his prime and focused he took down everyone he wanted too and didn't get out struck by far more accomplished strikers than Stipe but for some reason you think a guy who would be at a speed disadvantage on top of having no advantage anywhere himself except pure Wrestling would beat him more often than not? Lol, I'm quite confident that would be the opposite of what happens for the multiple of reasons pointed out.

Sorry, but I'm going to need something better than "because I said so" and a game plan that got a very different fighter a win over a version of Fedor that has no relevance to this "prime vs prime" discussion.
 
Grenades said:
I disagree that Ngannou was the only prime and elite competitor but no worries. Just came to say, given that Ngannou’s elite, Stipe put on full display what he does to the elite agai
!nsthe predator.

You make great points and this is a great civil discussion for those of us using logic instead of name calling and useless fighter bashing and I’m glad we can have it. So cheers my man. That being said, Fedor was a monster no doubt, but Stipe’s chin is better, he has pin point accuracy with bombs in both hands, manages his cardio, is as strong as they come (Cro-Cop said this) and the only person to put him on his his back one time was an Olympian to my recollection. A Fedor-Stipe fight would be all stand up and Stipe weathers Fedor’s storm and unloads his tomahawks when there’s an opening. Nobody’s had their chin tested like Stipe (a la Ngannou) and we haven’t seen this granite chin from Fedor. Just my thoughts.
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Fair enough but I strongly disagree, Fedor has taken tons of big shots and in his first 35 fights had only been rocked once. We've never seen prime Fedor KOed over a decade long run at HW, in under a decade we've seen prime Stipe dropped multiple times and KOed twice, pretty sure that makes it clear who has the better chin. He also survived the Randleplex which may be the best evidence of all.

We watched Fedor fight Crocop on the feet at a time Crocop was the most feared striker in the sport and beat him decisively, he did this by fighting a methodical fight using his speed to take away Crocops weapons by always anticipating what he was going to do and using it against him. If you haven't seen this fight watch it. There will be no storm like the Fedor of this decade, there will only be systematic destruction.

Cheers dude, I couldn't agree more with the start of your post, haha.
 
boss429 said:
Fair enough but I strongly disagree, Fedor has taken tons of big shots and in his first 35 fights had only been rocked once. We've never seen prime Fedor KOed over a decade long run at HW, in under a decade we've seen prime Stipe dropped multiple times and KOed twice, pretty sure that makes it clear who has the better chin. He also survived the Randleplex which may be the best evidence of all.

We watched Fedor fight Crocop on the feet at a time Crocop was the most feared striker in the sport and beat him decisively, he did this by fighting a methodical fight using his speed to take away Crocops weapons by always anticipating what he was going to do and using it against him. If you haven't seen this fight watch it. There will be no storm like the Fedor of this decade, there will only be systematic destruction.

Cheers dude, I couldn't agree more with the start of your post, haha.
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We’re always going to have our favorites and you make good points for yours. I have indeed seen all of the fights you mentioned. I could make counterpoints and arguments for Stipe, but neither of us are going to wake up feeling any different but it’s Good to see from another’s perspective. However it seems we do have some common ground both being a part of Team Ford. Beautiful car if that’s your Boss429. I have a Whipple blown Coyote Mustang so we both have great taste in American Muscle and the need for speed.
 
DC already starched Stipe's face off out of his prime.
 
Grenades said:
We’re always going to have our favorites and you make good points for yours. I have indeed seen all of the fights you mentioned. I could make counterpoints and arguments for Stipe, but neither of us are going to wake up feeling any different but it’s Good to see from another’s perspective. However it seems we do have some common ground both being a part of Team Ford. Beautiful car if that’s your Boss429. I have a Whipple blown Coyote Mustang so we both have great taste in American Muscle and the need for speed.
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Don't get me wrong, I've supported Stipe since he joined the UFC and he's undeniably a great fighter but I've never seen anything in him that Fedor didn't face and beat before but yeah, it seems we're at an impasse here so agree to disagree.

Fuck, I wish dude, unfortunately I'm not a multimillionaire though so no, that's not my Boss. I am a 30+ year Mustang fanatic though. I love the Fox bodies, I sold my most recent one not long ago(which I immediately regretted, lol) and haven't found another one yet so sadly I'm currently without a Mustang (sad face emoji)
 
Ngannu is the only one lol.

Stipe's career is full of old and shot fighters.

Their age speaks for itself. No amount of logical hoops can change the fact that the average age of his wins post Struve is over 37 lol.
 
Just because DC is still very good at 40 doesn't mean he's in his prime. Any man is on a physical decline at 40. Even Yoel, as beast as he is, isn't what he used to be.

That said, I'd entertain an argument that his skills have improved and offset the physical decline so that he is better at 40 than he was in his mid 30's. But I think it's a steep physical decline and he was already at a very high level at 35-36. I can't say he's better now.

Look no further than sports where it is easier to measure performance. Track and field. 40 year olds don't make it to the olympics. Even football, where everyone is a physical specimen, only a handful of guys have been able to still do it at 40 and its only in a select few positions, and they were almost all always a shell of themselves.

DC is a beast at 40.
But he isn't in his prime.
 
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