Poirier resume is insane

[GrantB13]

The guy can’t help but choke in title fights. Literally.

 

[Question]

They're all wars too. He's not vastly superior to any of his opponents, he's just got the heart of a warrior and a sack that hangs low.

Except Conor, he clowned Conor, twice.

Whenever you want to introduce someone to MMA, just show them a DP fight. Preferably his war with Hooker, those men beat the fuck out of eachother.

Round two of that bout is probably one of best rounds in MMA history.

 

[jitzmonkey]

So that makes his mention of Frankie relevant?
Also keep in mind we’ve seen more decorated wrestlers than Gray; and he dominated the wrestling in their first match, he looked another level above Frankie, (yet dude brought him on Page 1). Chad was able to take Aldo down, I don’t recall Frankie doing it all all in their first match, if he got him down in the second it was insignificant. (Yet dude mentioned Frankie on page 1)

The mma wrestling looked pretty even in the matches against Benson, I never understood why there even was a rematch. Prime Frankie wasn’t some juggernaut that was a matchup nightmare for Dustin is my point. It was irrelevant bringing him up.

No clue whether or not it makes him relevant to the conversation.
I was just responding your your specific statement regarding those two opponents.
FWIW, Frankie Edgar is one of the few New Jerseyan things that I'll ever speak up for.

I'd have to go back and watch; but didn't Aldo just pop right back up after getting taken down?

Only argument for re-matching Hendo was the fact that he had to beat the (to that point) 155lb GOAT twice in a row; so goose/gander/etc...

Re Edgar/Poirier: No argument from me.

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

Definitely someone I always personally underestimated but have grown to respect tremendously.

Always thought his chin was glassy AF after he got rocked by grappler Akira Corassani (and was constantly rocked by KZ) but his chin improved significantly at 155 and he became a whole new fighter.

I picked against him in nearly every fight of his from Joseph Duffy (who was mega hyped and being positioned for a big fight with Conor) to Holloway (and was thus successful on his fluke loss to Michael Johnson but wildly unsuccessful otherwise) until I finally realized he is pretty damn durable and its actually his grappling that lets him down (albeit only against very elite competition).

Solid fighter, huge overachiever IMO like the guy has massive heart. One of the very best resumes in the modern era and he never cherrypicked or ducked opponents regardless of stylistic matchups. He's also consistently entertaining and a true MIXED-martial artist.

The UFC HOF is a joke anyway but if there was a legitimate mma HOF, he would definitely deserve to be in it. Respect

 

[Raptors2019]

Quite an underrated fighter because he never won the title.

 

[Neck&Neck]

Certified banger

 

[RageQuitLord]

They're all wars too. He's not vastly superior to any of his opponents, he's just got the heart of a warrior and a sack that hangs low.

Except Conor, he clowned Conor, twice.

Whenever you want to introduce someone to MMA, just show them a DP fight. Preferably his war with Hooker, those men beat the fuck out of eachother.

See while yes you are absolutely correct he has heart and can take guys into deep waters he is absolutely more technical than his opponents in certain ways bro. His striking defense with that weird ass philly shell combined with rolling with punches using head movement makes him take less clean shots over the course of a long war and it adds up a lot. If you guys are trading back and forth during a slugfest he's only taking one punch for every two or three he's landing on you.

 

[Shaun K]

He’s a gate keeper, thats what they do. On par with franklin, only never held the title

 

[StonedLemur]

They're all wars too. He's not vastly superior to any of his opponents, he's just got the heart of a warrior and a sack that hangs low.

Except Conor, he clowned Conor, twice.

Whenever you want to introduce someone to MMA, just show them a DP fight. Preferably his war with Hooker, those men beat the fuck out of eachother.

Him and KZ was a dope fight too.

 

[DatSamboKid]

Poirier has one of the top UFC records in history: 21 wins 6 loses.

 

[DebtCollectorMMA]

Hes great against bar fighters and pillow fists yes

 

[EYEKICKFACES]

Yeah Conor got in his head and Poirier didn't box back then. Despite having similar experience (time in the sport), you can say Poirier was a greener fighter than Conor was back then.

The roles revered and Dustin showed McGregor who daddy is. Don't get in this shot of you aren't all in, you can, and in Conor's case, will get hurt.

II have to disagree with you there. That was Dustin's 11th UFC fight and Conor's 4th. Poirer was the more experienced fighter on the big stage.

 

[Ares Black]

they arent championship level talents

You could argue that if you want.

That's not what he said. He said they suck, then doubled down.

For a guy who claims to value the truth, he seems pretty thoroughly disconnected from it.

 

[Ares Black]

I don't care if you don't think they're gatekeepers.

You didn't say they were gatekeepers, you said they suck.

Now you are trying to change what you said because it was completely ridiculous. Very brave. Hitchens would be impressed with your intellect.

 

[Local Plata]

You didn't say they were gatekeepers, you said they suck.

Now you are trying to change what you said because it was completely ridiculous. Very brave. Hitchens would be impressed with your intellect.

Yes I did. I'll say it again, they are gatekeepers, and they do suck. Stop asking for my opinion if you don't want to hear it.

 

[drbolony]

See while yes you are absolutely correct he has heart and can take guys into deep waters he is absolutely more technical than his opponents in certain ways bro. His striking defense with that weird ass philly shell combined with rolling with punches using head movement makes him take less clean shots over the course of a long war and it adds up a lot. If you guys are trading back and forth during a slugfest he's only taking one punch for every two or three he's landing on you.

I appreciate you appreciating the nuances of fighting. I do too, if you read my posts, I'm a bit of a snob and rub the mouth breathers around here who love Rock Em Sock Em Robots, Tank Abbott, and the good ole days, the wrong way. You're misunderstanding the fact that I said that Dustin isn't vastly to superior to his opponents as me stating he has no technical subtly to his game.

The key word is "vastly".

Him and KZ was a dope fight too.

He has too many, I personally love him vs Holloway ll, even though it breaks my heart. I just think the Hooker fight is one of the most casual friendly fights.

KZ fight is super sick. Crazy back and forth and an amazing display of MMA, not just a crazy striking battle.

II have to disagree with you there. That was Dustin's 11th UFC fight and Conor's 4th. Poirer was the more experienced fighter on the big stage.

What's in parenthesis is the key aspect of that statement. I'm aware Dustin had more UFC experience, but Conor was special when he came into the UFC. He knew exactly what he wanted and he had a bullet proof mindset. Nothing got in, yet he made a name for himself by invading the minds of his opponents pre fight, and for his predictions. As much as a I give Conor shit for getting his handheld to the top, he needed to be ready for that, and many aren't ready for the pressure of the main stage. Conor seemed to revel in it.

Dustin is exactly the opposite, a quiet, humble dude. Very much a fighters fighter, and a hot head in his younger years. Conor preyed on this aspect of Poirier's mentality and it payed off. The mental game is exactly where Poirier was greener than McGregor. Dustin didn't come into his own until some time after he moved to LW, 15+ fights into his Zuffa career.

 

[pick999]

Probably the best striker in lw division.if it wasn't for takedowns he would of beaten khabib

 

[Ares Black]

Yes I did. I'll say it again, they are gatekeepers, and they do suck. Stop asking for my opinion if you don't want to hear it.

I never asked for your opinion. You shared that gem of insight all on your own.

 

[DkMacaw]

Conor won that first round! You started buying into Dustin’s narrative that it would’ve happened regardless, albeit the guy that fought Conor the third time dominated all phases of the fight, because Conor initiated the clinch. … But, in that second fight Dustin was down a round and ate another left hand before the calf kicks turned the tide. Besides the calf kicks, Dustin landed two surprise jabs that I’m shocked Conor didn’t counter, but he still lost that round.

He won the first round yes. However Dustin had improved and busted his ass off fighting contenders while Conor retired after beating Cerrone (and multiple times before that).
Conor never showed the improvement he was supposed to show. If his conditioning remains the same the only formula he has is finishing Dustin on the first or fade away due to poor conditioning (McGregor Sleep)

 

[DjolexMTL]

...so what, he sucks? No one's in here saying he would be favored against Islam.

Watchout bud, you're talking to "P4PIslam".....