Media pavlovich doing bench press

[Clark Rogers]

Yeah you got college football players lifting 225lbs like 40+ times. Pav should be doing 20 reps at 295.

He may be able to, we only see what's in this little clip.

Honestly there prob isn't a ton of benefit for him to go much higher. I've been lifting for years, heavy bench gets brutal on the shoulders even with the best of form.

This vid has me wanting some bumper plates though, damn things LOOK heavier than their Olympic iron counterparts lol, the 10s look like my iron 45s lol

 

[Trabaho]

In b4 powerlifting fans tell us how he is not that strong.

 

[Mammothman]

Yeah its ridiculous, he must have some type of serious injury because I usually bench that amount with my thumb only

I've been lifting heavy recently, just did a 2250 Ibs bench press the other day and did a 2600 Ibs deadlift and a 2480 Ibs squat. I'm super jacked this week, I'll show you a recent pic of me from last week......

just a typical super jacked sherdogger, the norm really

Exactly well said @HI SCOTT NEWMAN
I was actually thinking in giving Pavlovich an honorary account on sherdog, just to lurk not post, cause he was fighting like a true sherdog, KOing everybody in the 1st round, but that bench press is a massive RED FLAG, there is no excuse for that weight, it's actually quite offensive to even post that around here, so I'm going to hold on in my offer.

 

[Davidjacksonjones]

Exactly well said @HI SCOTT NEWMAN
I was actually thinking in giving Pavlovich an honorary account on sherdog, just to lurk not post, cause he was fighting like a true sherdog, KOing everybody in the 1st round, but that bench press is a massive RED FLAG, there is no excuse for that weight, it's actually quite offensive to even post that around here, so I'm going to hold on in my offer.

Pavlovich doesn't meet the minimum 6'5 height requirement, but i let that one slide because he was knocking people out like a true Sherdogger
The bench press numbers is definitely a massive red flag.

I think we could grant him access to an account, but he will be constantly monitored, and certain restrictions will be placed, such as number of threads and posts to be created a day.
If, after 30 days, he doesn't bench press at least 405lbs, his account is terminated + lifetime IP ban. If he succeeds in a 405 lb bench, we can lift the account restrictions and welcome him to Sherdog

 

[checktheknuckles]

Guys doing that many reps at 225 are typically still way heavier than Pav. That’s lineman reps normally

And 20-22 year olds at that. I also don't see how added fat is going to help them lift more, but ok. And how much do you think Pav weighs during the offseason?

 

[LZD]

He's repping it INCREDIBLY easily. Can't infer his max from this at all.

 

[AmonTobin]

He's actually going deep too. Not like these fat guys who drop it down an inch from the top.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Looks like 295lbs, it's what I use to warm up.

Are you like every other sherdogger? 6'6 300 pounds jacked, BJJ blackbelt?

 

[Poatan Power]

Not touching the chess.

Sherdog account revoked.

That's a reasonable accommodation for long armed, non-competitive lifters lol

You don't have to smash them, but you do have to touch your chest with the bar for it to count as a bench press rep.

Nah.

For competition? Sure. But for a lifter to stop 1" above the chest, the lift is actually harder because you lose out on the stretch reflex which generates more force for the lift. That's also an important factor for growth stimulation, if that matters to him. In addition, for long armed lifters, going all the way to the bottom can actually be problematic for the shoulder girdle. He may actually get a little stretch reflex given his length.

 

[Russ82]

295 isnt much. My working sets are 475

 

[Poatan Power]

So, you're saying the strength derived from working bench press doesn't allow for stronger punches? Cool story, bro ...

Yeah, not particularly. The mechanics of a punch are a lot more important than pressing strength, and speed far trumps that. How quickly he can press is much more important than how much he can press in context to punching. Not that they're totally independent variables, but, there's a reason many boxers don't even touch weights -- Tyson is pretty well known for only doing bodyweight stuff.

 

[Lee_]

He weighs 261lb and the video shows him benching 295lb. We don't know if that's his max, but strictly speaking on what we see. It's good but not impressive.

That's like 1.1x his bw.

It can't be his one rep max because he pumps it 2.5 times before the video restarts. It would depend on how many times he can rep it. It looks like he had more reps in the tank; he wasn't starting to struggle or anything.

 

[Lee_]

Yeah, not particularly. The mechanics of a punch are a lot more important than pressing strength, and speed far trumps that. How quickly he can press is much more important than how much he can press in context to punching. Not that they're totally independent variables, but, there's a reason many boxers don't even touch weights -- Tyson is pretty well known for only doing bodyweight stuff.

It's more helpful for OL in football, not much for boxing. For lower weights, they want to be careful how much muscle they add given the weight cutting considerations.

 

[Poatan Power]

It's more helpful for OL in football, not much for boxing. For lower weights, they want to be careful how much muscle they add given the weight cutting considerations.

Yes. In OL/DL in football there is a lot more isometric position holding in the body. You get in a position of power and hold it and use it to move your opponent. Think framing in BJJ to keep people from putting their weight on you, right? So isometric and concentric/eccentric work really strengthens you for those things.

Speed work is done with like 50-60% of your 1RM level, which can add some size for sure because that's a 20-30 rep max weight. But in any event, you can do a lot more repetitions with explosive speed and also side on the end of endurance, all much more useful for punching. Strength is great, but in context to striking, speed, timing, angles (including height) and accuracy (plus OVERALL size) all contribute to power much more than strength.

The newest literature suggests that 5-30 (and sometimes higher) rep ranges all build similar muscle tissue, with closer to 5 contributing more to an increase in overall 1RM strength. Pretty crazy stuff.

All this just to say that seeing a dude do a partial set of bench press does not give us any insight into his programming for range of motion, intensity, volume, frequency, accessory work, etc., it's just for fun.

 

[spinup]

Are you like every other sherdogger? 6'6 300 pounds jacked, BJJ blackbelt?

I used to be, before I hit puberty.

 

[FloydMayweatherMMA]

I do curls of the bench with Pavlovich on it to warm up

 

[GolovKing]

So, you're saying the strength derived from working bench press doesn't allow for stronger punches? Cool story, bro ...

At a certain point, no. If you take a complete nerd or couch potato and have them bench, they will probably see some gains in there punch power. An athlete like pavlovich who is already plenty strong is not gonna see gains in punching power by focusing on his bench. In fact it could even get worse. And you claimed that bench press directly correlates to ones ability to cave a head in, which is not true.

 

[Clark Rogers]

For a site full of 6'5" 285lb shredded dudes that bench 450 for warm up reps, this place sure does have a lot of people that know fuckall about weight lifting, what that clip tells us (very little), and how exercises do and don't benefit specific movements.

Couple in here get it though, thankfully lol

 

[Fahcough]

Fun thread. so much debate over a basic Dicks weight set. 1 glance you see the 275 standard + 10s

 

[SalvadorAllende]

For competition? Sure. But for a lifter to stop 1" above the chest, the lift is actually harder because you lose out on the stretch reflex which generates more force for the lift. That's also an important factor for growth stimulation, if that matters to him. In addition, for long armed lifters, going all the way to the bottom can actually be problematic for the shoulder girdle. He may actually get a little stretch reflex given his length.

It's scientifically proved that the most hypertrophic part of the movement is when the muscle is most stretched under load. Full range of motion, pause at the bottom and then push is the way to go.

If he can't do a full repetition he should lower the weight and do it correctly. Long arms my ass.

And if he is not repping 315lbs with full ROM without leg drive he can't have a Sherdog account. Those are the rules.