Paramount + -- FINE PRINT thread

[MDoza]

There’s no way they don’t start cranking costs up even more

 

[Alpha_T83]

There’s no way they don’t start cranking costs up even more

You never know. For people with actual brains there is a formula of viewership vs cost, and having a lower monthly subscription with ads and more viewers can actually increase profits.

I hope we end up getting leaks from CBS as to the Paramount+ viewership numbers for numbered UFC events.

 

[goOb]

How'd that go for you?

It went horribly. I have written a very strongly worded letter discussing my experience and concerns. In fact I think they read my prior message before the event and decided to add insult to injury by adding Blink-182 to the broadcast. These are very unscrupulous people we are dealing with.

 

[MDoza]

You never know. For people with actual brains there is a formula of viewership vs cost, and having a lower monthly subscription with ads and more viewers can actually increase profits.

I hope we end up getting leaks from CBS as to the Paramount+ viewership numbers for numbered UFC events.

That’s contingent on them getting more viewers though. The production value of their first card was largely panned. I don’t think they did anything that will make on the fence fans decide to subscribe.

They are also getting into a sport where most viewers have already figured out how to easily pirate it.

 

[JustforBROCK]

The problem is its hard to gage how much money youre going to make in TV/Streaming/Entertainment these days with the landscape. UFC doesnt give a fuck about its viewers, thats pretty clear with the last two 'deals' they have signed. I dont think people understand UFC gets paid no matter what. its Paramounts Job to 'Make Money' off platforming the UFC. IMO that gives regular ass people motivation to illegally watch it rather than pay (because prices suck, the streaming quality sucks, etc) .... and with people are just hip to the hustle these days. Too many HD streams out there that are a click or two away to worry about navigating their shitty platforms to watch two guys hump each other.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

I see a lot of speculation that Paramount will raise their subscription rate, with some fearing double. If they've already got 70 million subscribers pre-UFC, how are they going to justify the price hike to them? Likely they would lose a lot of those subscribers who don't give AF about teh UFC.

I think the play is to keep the subscription price low while adding the UFC fans into the mix. They only need 2% of the UFC followerz to meet that figure, so that seems very doable.

They also don't need to make back all their money on subscriptions. Those ads will "add up" (pun intended.)

Broadcasting on CBS will get a crazy amount of viewers & so ad prices will cost more for those wanting their product to be in the mix. How about ads for teh white house gig? FFS they will probably approach Superbowl levelz of ridiculous money spent on those ads.

 

[Ares Black]

Canadian MMA fans should file a class action lawsuit against the UFC.

 

[don't ask]

I see a lot of speculation that Paramount will raise their subscription rate, with some fearing double. If they've already got 70 million subscribers pre-UFC, how are they going to justify the price hike to them? Likely they would lose a lot of those subscribers who don't give AF about teh UFC.

I think the play is to keep the subscription price low while adding the UFC fans into the mix. They only need 2% of the UFC followerz to meet that figure, so that seems very doable.

They also don't need to make back all their money on subscriptions. Those ads will "add up" (pun intended.)

Broadcasting on CBS will get a crazy amount of viewers & so ad prices will cost more for those wanting their product to be in the mix. How about ads for teh white house gig? FFS they will probably approach Superbowl levelz of ridiculous money spent on those ads.

All streaming companies are raising prices, usually by enough to still profit after losing viewers. Prices are going up on everything because the money has been sucked out of the lower and middle class, time to extract from the wealthier class.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

All streaming companies are raising prices, usually by enough to still profit after losing viewers. Prices are going up on everything because the money has been sucked out of the lower and middle class, time to extract from the wealthier class.

I'm not saying that it might not go up, but if it does, then it will be in very low increments in line with their history. People are speculating big drastic price hikes & even calling double, and I just can't see them doubling the price to try & make back their UFC money, when they already have 70 million people signed up who may or may not even care about the UFC. Likely most of them don't.

They're spamming ads all over the place, & that's going to ad up to a great deal of pay-back... + however many actual UFC fans sign oop just to watch the UFC who otherwise wouldn't. I think it shakes out without having to do some dramatic price hikes on the subscription... if any at all.

Time will tell

 

[don't ask]

I'm not saying that it might not go up, but if it does, then it will be in very low increments in line with their history. People are speculating big drastic price hikes & even calling double, and I just can't see them doubling the price to try & make back their UFC money, when they already have 70 million people signed up who may or may not even care about the UFC. Likely most of them don't.

They're spamming ads all over the place, & that's going to ad up to a great deal of pay-back... + however many actual UFC fans sign oop just to watch the UFC who otherwise wouldn't. I think it shakes out without having to do some dramatic price hikes on the subscription... if any at all.

Time will tell

We might be in some agreement on this because I don't think they're saying prices will double immediately, but in a year or two. (And they're saying that because that's what the entire streaming industry is doing. Raising prices are more important than customer retention for short term profits, which is the only thing driving business right now.)