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Pancrase: The Forgotten Organization

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  1. David Street Use skills

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    Pancrase Japan has a new home Pancrase 326 will be held at Belle Salle Takadanobaba in Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo on March 21st and said to making big announcement soon . .

    Coming 2022 to USA It’s official. Chris Lights Out Lytle is coming out of retirement to face Nate The Great Marquardt for the Welterweight King of Pancrase title.

    "As this will be 100% a shoot as Chris has never asked for a UFC title match even beating former UFC champion Matt Serra. Nate Marquardt is also a UFC and Pancrase veteran having memorable bouts in ADCC. Who is gonna win. Original Pancrase rules from rope escapes to Kickpads and a 15 min time limit."
    This will be 2022
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    *Also Shooto is no longer a ONE feeder... and revamping their VTJ
     
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  2. lukeuidswords Black Belt

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    This isnt actually Pancrase. This is an American who is fraudulently using their brand name. The real Pancrase still runs shows almost monthly in Japan, and only Japan.
     
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  3. JacJeanFinger Brown Belt

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    After Sakai took over the management, Pancrase has been just the brand name and represented nothing relevant to the original establishment Ozaki created with Funaki/Suzuki.

    Akira Maeda who was the legendary antagonistic figure for Pancrase hosted a mini event last year where he sat down with Sakai face to face to discuss the past and future of the organization and jmma. Maeda asserted the only problem he'd ever had with Pancrase was ozaki who got in his way to promote his own business and now everything is cool. Sakai seemed to be completely content with maeda's statement. (According to Anjo, maeda ia a pathological liar who cannot recall a single event from the past correctly. )

    SHOOTO: THE FORGOTTEN ORGANIZATION
     
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  4. JacJeanFinger Brown Belt

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    Pancrase was named by Karl Gotch who was the coach and mentor of UWF. His involvement with Pancrase was lost when Funaki didn't reply the letter by which Gotch basically told Funaki to dump Ken shamrock.
     
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  5. Buffmeister If u aint smokey it aint your m'fkin message

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    What had Gotch against Shamrock?
     
  6. JacJeanFinger Brown Belt

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    Ken depended heavily on his strength. Gotch resided in Florida and he wasn't a big fan of the concentrated juice Ken was routinely consuming.

    Gotch also wanted Funaki to ban striking. He believed "pure catch wrestling" can win any fights in the ring or street.
     
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  7. StonedLemur Lost soul Double Yellow Card

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    Bas was the first guy I ever seen ko someone with an open palm strike.

    That guy was ahead of his time.
     
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  8. SalvadorCollie Brown Belt

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    Forgotten? I work with a hardcore Rutten fan.
     
  9. Glove Black Belt

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    In general many MMA fans have never heard of Pancrase, save the dedicated few.
     
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    Wasn't ol' Karl also of the opinion that pins should be introduced as a winning method as well?
     
  11. JacJeanFinger Brown Belt

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    In the sport of sumo, slap hand knocking down male fighters is not super rare.


    Masakatsu Funaki was the first professional fighter who incorporated palm strike into mma after he learned this style with late Shihan Horie.


    As far as I know or I can remember, slap hand as a tool to win a fight in the modern striking competition was introduced by shidokan karate, one of the few schools that challenged mma in the beginning.
     
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    I specifically said knock out sir.
     
  13. JacJeanFinger Brown Belt

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    In 2005, during the first TUF in series, Chris Leben kept wearing what appeared to be a Pancrase wristband all the time (I guess he got it from his Oregonian teammate, Ed Herman after the shorthuse traveled to Japan to fight in Pancrase.) And nobody was like "what the hell is that?" Pancrase was not a new thing to 2005 mma fans or fighters.

    In 2007, Frank shamrock said "my style is Pancrase" in one of the promotional videos elite XC or strikeforce made for a PPV event. Again, nobody questioned about the Japanese organization Frank was bringing up in 2007.

    Something happened in 2010's. And we can no longer have the same mma we had in the 90's.
     
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    Earlier and much higher profiled fight from RINGS. Bas was going to join RINGS before he was kidnapped by Pancrase recruiters.
     
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  15. StonedLemur Lost soul Double Yellow Card

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    Can you read?
    I said "THAT I EVER SEEN"...Wow, just wow.
     
  16. JacJeanFinger Brown Belt

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    Look again what I quoted.

    Most American or global viewers didn't even know it was possible to win a fight with leglocks when they saw Ken shamrock beat Patrick Smith in UFC 1. That was actually an ordinary technique in japan and Russia, nothing ahead of time. Some pathetic idiots are still believing Ken shamrock invented leglocks because they had not seen anything like that before and their personal watching experience is what matters to them.
     
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  17. Glove Black Belt

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    I personally enjoyed the Pancrase organization from the early 1990's and one of my favorite fighters is its co founder, Masakatsu Funaki. It hardly ever gets its "due" around here except from the experienced accounts. You have a good understanding of Pancrase however, and its rather pleasing to see some on here remember it.
     
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  18. TheMaster Take The Road To Reality Double Yellow Card

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    Almost all pancrase fans here are guys who watched historical highlight vids of Funaki, Bas, Ken and Frank after learning about it through the UFC. Very few old schoolers who actually caught it when it was going back in the day. I remember it being advertized as 'Yes we are Hybrid wrestling' on WWF programming in the late 90's when Ken was debuting.

    It had its place in the history of the sport.
     
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    Being king of pancrase meant a lot back in the day
     
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    Incredibly it still is active today.
     

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