Palm Strikes in Street Fight?

[lakamas]

some palm strikes come at different angles than punches thus using stronger muscle groups

 

[Demogoblin]

umm no.. palm strikes and cherry poppers are totally legal against mutiple opponents !
if there are two or more people there attacking you .. lets say its a wrestler or a two brazililian ji- jitusu .. and they are your size or have a good deal of weight on you .. i mean you can litterally once you are on top put both your thumbs into their eye sockets and push until until both their eye balls bust open ..

however , palm strikes, or impaling someones eye sockets , throat -biting
if someone keeps bullying you and you need stick up for yourself or someone in your family ( 70 PERCENT OF MAULINGS OR RAPE COME FROM SOMEONE YOU KNOW !) and yeah you have to report it to your local precinct first ! especially if you feel the situation will escalate into violence ( which should be avoided at all costs ) . if the cops dont do anything to stop or prevent it , like go to that persons house or apartment or at work -place .. like send officers to knock on their door and talk to them write them a summons search their house yada yada ... then there is a serious fucking problem!! . sometimes ,the best thing that a cop can do is just put everyone of you in jail for one night !! ( including you! ) that usually cools things down .. if the pig -cop at the precinct doesnt want to do anything about it and just sit there scarfing jelly -donuts down his esophagus then you write down the time and date you were at the precint ( that if the police decide not to file it and tell you to " piss off" ).. all police precincts should , they do , they always have have video cameras running day and night

please forgive my grammar my left index finger and my right index finger are very badly swollen and inflamed .. i heard a story about a guy ( 5'7 and 150 lbs) who said he did martial arts for 8 years hand his hands are considered to be "lethal "i asked where he trained he said somewhere in the city i said "where, i mean we are in the city!" he said no in "NYC he trained wu-chung .. he said it closed down he also said one time in long beach NY he got attacked by three guys who tried to beat him up .. he said he did time and i think they did took i cant remember all the detail of what he said ,however, i know that he is a liar at the end of the conversation .. i ask him why were they fucking with you ? .. he said because they wanted money .. i knew right then and there he was a liar .. our city hasnt gotten one car stolen in 14 years !.. and in that particular part of the city " the dont try to mug people " its a area of just purely just caucasian republican and rich people mostly irish german and italian and oh yeah a shit load of college kids especially during the summer .. but no they dont mug .. they dont " mug people " LOL but they will try to jump guys , they will rape women , they will even stab people but no fight hapens for "mugging "unless its early teens!! so like i said .. if there are two or more guys your size or big fat bubbas that are going to beat you to a inch of your life a " palm strike" and a "cherry poppers "are totally legal in almost every state in UK or US

 

[SandisLL]

If someone speaks about his hands considered as lethal weapons, then he is without good training.

 

[Kenneth Andrews]

If someone speaks about his hands considered as lethal weapons, then he is without good training.

Right!.. I always hated martial arts voodo. "my hands are lethal weapons" "if you palm someones nose it will go in their brain and they'll die" "if you use an open hand in self defence you can go to jail because they are super extra dangerous"

Knocking someones nose bone into their brain is a myth,There's no such thing as registering your hands as weapons, and palm strikes won't land you in jail any quicker than a punch.

 

[j123]

Right!.. I always hated martial arts voodo. "my hands are lethal weapons" "if you palm someones nose it will go in their brain and they'll die" "if you use an open hand in self defence you can go to jail because they are super extra dangerous"

Knocking someones nose bone into their brain is a myth,There's no such thing as registering your hands as weapons, and palm strikes won't land you in jail any quicker than a punch.

Bro you haven't pushed someone's nose up his head with palm strikes? I think you need to train more. I managed to do it a year into training. It's a big reason why I'm not allowed to fight in the UFC and why cops carry guns

 

[Jack Stevonovich]

Bro you haven't pushed someone's nose up his head with palm strikes? I think you need to train more. I managed to do it a year into training. It's a big reason why I'm not allowed to fight in the UFC and why cops carry guns

Thanks bro. I never understood why cops carried guns before. Now, I do.

 

[mrsenor]

shotei>broken hand

 

[Demogoblin]

Right!.. I always hated martial arts voodo. "my hands are lethal weapons" "if you palm someones nose it will go in their brain and they'll die" "if you use an open hand in self defence you can go to jail because they are super extra dangerous"

Knocking someones nose bone into their brain is a myth,There's no such thing as registering your hands as weapons, and palm strikes won't land you in jail any quicker than a punch.

Thanks bro. I never understood why cops carried guns before. Now, I do.

not true , however , i dont know if you ever played mortal kombat for Sega or Super Nes but that is why its called" fatality " or " finish him" you can do a palm strike to someone nose to do some real damage probably not kill them unless you have 50 pounds on them but the most important thing is they have to be like " semi conscious " or " punch drunk" or .. or you have to i dont know if you ever went square dancing were you have your elbow hooked around a girl well hopefully a girl in a mini skirt and you hook your eblow around her elbow before
my point is this if you can get your eblow hooked around their arm plus your metal boots or sneakers has to stomp and anchor their foot (break their fucking toe if you can) so you can hold them down while you're pushing up with the palm strike . but you should probably groin strike them or eye gouge them first .. then you have to stomp on their foot then you like almost like a four figure the other arm the other arm does the palm strike while your other arm is pushing their body weight down ( including their neck and back ) that same side has your left foot still on top of their foot .. but your other arm has to be hooked around their arm and in a street fight that is very hard to do ( the left side or the right side of the body should be secure while the other arm throwing it .. no one is just going to sit their and let you " wing your elbow around their eblow or let you play " footies" with them .. not to mention they can punch you in the face several times while you attempt this!!

doing a "palm strike" in a street fight to kill is like performing a ankle locke in a street fight or a heel hook( leave you vulnerable) .. you could do end up permantly destroying their nose but you could end up getting your "clock cleaned " by missing the attempt or them escaping your " special move" .. and yeah like i said ,if there are two people attacking you at once or they have a weapon .. you may be arrested but you wont be convicted ..two one one .. three on one .. not fair !

i will post a pictue of how to do a effective palm strike that will actually 85 percent indeed kill someone

 

[Demogoblin]

man, i never thought of it that way! they really did go back and forth like that between the two gyms/countries. that's pretty cool

meen niether !
yes , its kind of cool .. i def . agree

i mean you can use it ( palm strike) to bargain with someone who threatens to you " jump you " or use a baseball bat on you .. "if i kill you with my " palm strike" than its your fault or their fault not mine " saying its "a myth " is going a little too far its def. not a myth ! .. its a move that is not really meant for a striker but more of meant for a "sadistic collegiate -wrestler " .. i am tired so i am little delirious but i disagree with people making fun of this move ( palm strike) but i agree with you and the OP
when i did brazlian jiu jitusu .. the only time Milton ( my teacher ) did a practice on " strikes" it was the palm strike .. my teacher was 6'1 and very strong for his age and he was under 40 but he was also very modest and he said BJJ is sport fighting not really meant for the street but he is being modest
to actually pull this move off you need to be a good wrestler or grappler

 

[Adnan Adil]

Bro you haven't pushed someone's nose up his head with palm strikes? I think you need to train more. I managed to do it a year into training. It's a big reason why I'm not allowed to fight in the UFC and why cops carry guns

It is so pity to know that, man! Maybe they should design special gloves for you and to allow you to show the world you talent. Your gloves have to be with padding on the heel part of the palms.

Thanks bro. I never understood why cops carried guns before. Now, I do.

So much knowledge in one post, isn't it?

 

[j123]

It is so pity to know that, man! Maybe they should design special gloves for you and to allow you to show the world you talent. Your gloves have to be with padding on the heel part of the palms.

I tried to early on, but my ki was too much, it made it worse. The energy transferred past my glove, and it pushed opponent's nose out of his head like a bullet, and people nearby thought it was gunfire

 

[Adnan Adil]

I tried to early on, but my ki was too much, it made it worse. The energy transferred past my glove, and it pushed opponent's nose out of his head like a bullet, and people nearby thought it was gunfire

I am glad that you decided to stop trying entering in UFC, because there you would have problems with the Big John McCarthy. The MMA rules would have been different, something like this:
"It is prohibited to:
1) Eye gouge;
2) Strike the groin;
3) Use ki..."

 

[JohnPJones]

palm heel strikes worked well for bas in the 90's


here bas says 1v1 fists, 1vgroup open hands.

 

[Adnan Adil]

palm heel strikes worked well for bas in the 90's


here bas says 1v1 fists, 1vgroup open hands.

The fists deliver more damage IMO, but there is higher risk of damaging your hands. For instance few days ago I was throwing at about 50 percent punches in the forearms and elbows of a partner (for the experiment) and suddenly I've connected with the ring finger's knuckle, only with it. The pain wasn't going to stop me, but I've realized that if I was at 100 percent the result could be different.

 

[JohnPJones]

The fists deliver more damage IMO, but there is higher risk of damaging your hands. For instance few days ago I was throwing at about 50 percent punches in the forearms and elbows of a partner (for the experiment) and suddenly I've connected with the ring finger's knuckle, only with it. The pain wasn't going to stop me, but I've realized that if I was at 100 percent the result could be different.

i mean it's looking like the open hand is delivering plenty of damage to me lol, so i guess even if the fist does do more damage is it really a significantly larger amount of damage, and is that increase significant enough to justify the risk to your hands?

 

[SandisLL]

Risks?
If it is really dangerous attack, then almost always comes without long notice period, for example 0,1 - 2 seconds. Of course, usually people use techniques and combinations they trained longer time, automatised moves. There are not time to think, this is not ring. For ring you know, when and know about opponent's experience. Trainer advises you what better to do etc with THIS opponent.

If punches done with seiken, proper fist, punches not delivered to forehead, risk is not so high. Forehead is one from strongest bones in human body. Yes, if forehead is punched even with miserable ! mistake, hand can be damaged. I know one student, he used to hit opponent's forehead and things gone terrible for him. Fist was damaged, he was able use his litlle finger only after 8 months. This finger still is with about 50% funcionality from normal standart.

Lethality?
Uppercut from amateur weightlifter without any special training delivered to morque. One punch recieved, opponent died after few minutes.
Uppercut from fitness trainer, also without fight training. Half hook + uppercut, opponent passed away.
In bouth cases opponents were in similar weight class.

 

[Adnan Adil]

Risks?
If it is really dangerous attack, then almost always comes without long notice period, for example 0,1 - 2 seconds. Of course, usually people use techniques and combinations they trained longer time, automatised moves. There are not time to think, this is not ring. For ring you know, when and know about opponent's experience. Trainer advises you what better to do etc with THIS opponent.

If punches done with seiken, proper fist, punches not delivered to forehead, risk is hot so high. Forehead is one from strongest bones in human body. Yes, if forehead is punched even with miserable ! mistake, hand can be damaged. I know one student, he used to hit opponent's forehead and things gone terrible for him. Fist was damaged, he was able use his litlle finger only after 8 months. This finger still is with about 50% funcionality from normal standart.

Lethality?
Uppercut from amateur weightlifter without any special training delivered to morque. One punch recieved, opponent died after few minutes.
Uppercut from fitness trainer, also without fight training. Half hook + uppercut, opponent passed away.
In bouth cases opponents were in similar weight class.

Man, those stories about the strength athletes sound scary! The technique is very important. Few days ago I rowed with a boat (I can kayak a little), but rowing with a boat was so hard. I had no proper technique and it was so hard for me. We weren't fast at all and I got tired so quickly. Then I realized that the technique is crucial for every activity. But... from other hand- look at those power measuring machines- some guys with no formal training break records. So to be able to use your whole body is easier maybe. The problem is that the guys who don't train can't throw whole body strikes staying in nice stance, they need to wind up. Yes, connecting with harden knuckles is not big deal, unless it is full body punch, but connecting with the knuckles which are "neighbors" to those hard knuckles can be devastating. I think with the punches you can throw more technical strikes, but you have to think more. In my opinion- nobody's hands are snipers- you aim for something, and you lend right... next to it sometimes.

 

[SandisLL]

I wrote this not because I'm any kind of expert in arts ( just learning ), reason is more terrible and true.
I filled paperwork for Path Dept, for police, morque for foresnics.
I'm not combat arts expert or high level expert in medicine.

 

[Adnan Adil]

I wrote this not because I'm any kind of expert in arts ( just learning ), reason is more terrible and true.
I filled paperwork for Path Dept, for police, morque for foresnics.
I'm not combat arts expert or high level expert in medicine.

Sounds unpleasant! Sometimes accidents happen. I doubt that many people want to kill someone while striking him once or twice with punch, but sometimes the things go wrong.

 

[SandisLL]

Yes, once opponent was just pushed and fall with head on pub's floor, he died in emergency room before delivered to intensive care unit.

I sometimes think also about sports fans, they think, that they are experts, what could achieve KO, what no. This punch can deliver KO, this punch not.
For rexample, once guy delivered me on ground with punch, however this not affected my ability or health, just because stance and in general physics. He was beaten after this so hard, that was not able to continue next round.
Different example; precise jab ignited white light, all world become just white universe for about 0,5 seconds. I was not on ground and continued like nothing happened. Sometimes i still feel this jab when nordic winter and long time on street.
Despite advantage in scored points and good condition, i gave up this bout, not continued next round. Why? Not paid, amateur bout in low level competition. Next shoot in head for free? Why if he was better if managed to do this? To entertain people for free?