Overrated movie you've ever seen?

[Deleted member 457759]

Black Panther.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

I agree. Great movie but still overrated. It was very predictable and had a unoriginal. Dances with wolves on another planet.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

There is I think definitely an element of self obsession to a lot of "kook" cinema, why I prefer stuff like Her or Eternal Sunshine that actually looks to challenge the typical "wistful creative middle class protagonist" a little more rather than just letting him exist in his own little bubble of kookiness.

Well put. The last part about living in one's little bubble is one thing that is I think is going wrong with people/society today and why the middle class has no unity or direction. But that is a different topic/thread lol.

 

[Khabibs Tiramisu]

1. Avatar - fun to watch in Imax, fucking boring story though.
2. The Dark Knight - okay film, was surprised with Heath Ledger's performance. Still forgettable though.
3. Mad Max Fury Road - boring ass shit
4. Black Panther - much more boring than Mad Max. fucking dogshit protagonist. shitty jokes. worst mcu movie
5. Logan - not sure why people consider this a masterpiece
6. 2001 Space Odyssey - was fine but don't know why it's considered a legend

 

[Hitman81]

Logan.

 

[Frode Falch]

Most Nolan movies.

 

[AgentSmecker]

Memento is the only crack in that armor I would argue

I agree because I do actually like Memento but for me it was all downhill from there with each one of his movies becoming increasingly difficult to sit through until after Inception and TDKR I decided enough is enough already and haven't watched another one of his tedious little offerings ever since.

 

[MacDuffle]

I think referring to his films as a "book report" is very clearly being critical of the importance of his work as a director.

Honestly Kubrick seems a strange target for this kind of criticism to me, directors working with existing material and other writers makes up a pretty high percentage of cinema and Kubrick is not someone who's reputation is strongly based on the overall narrative or indeed the dialog of his films, its always been focused mostly on his direction.

Someone like Scorsese would seem like a more obvious target to me, not that I'd go along with it even then but I do think more of the praise for his work is linked to the writing and he wasn't making films that were as well known to be based on the another persons writing as Kubrick with 2001, Clockwork Orange and The Shinning all being widely known novels.

Do you not see how it becomes difficult to credit Kubrick with aspects of the story when those plot elements are lifted from someone else's work?

 

[MacDuffle]

Wes Anderson movies - movies with a bunch of unrealistic characters with no real plot. Made for people who like to wrongly self-diagnose themselves, and over analyze other people, and do nothing productive with their lives, just like the characters in the movies.

As someone who full-blown despised The Royal Tenenbaums, Life Aquatic and Bottle Rocket, I would argue Moonrise Kingdom is one of the best films about Boy Scouts ever made

That movie felt "unrealistic" to you? Everything about it (maybe ignore the weird lightning strike) seemed extremely resonant with coming-of-age material in a way that wasn't forced or inorganic to me, I really think that film stands out from his other work...

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Do you not see how it becomes difficult to credit Kubrick with aspects of the story when those plot elements are lifted from someone else's work?

Do you not see though that the praise of Kubrick does not take this form the vast majority of the time? I mean he does have some writing credits and people praise some choices in adaptation but his reputation obviously rests on the way his films look/sound and the performances within them rather than any writing.

That many of them are adapting famous novels as well surely makes it unlikely people will give him sole credit for writing them?

If I was looking to throw this kind of criticism around Kubrick would be exactly the last director I'd pick out who worked with other peoples writing.

 

[MacDuffle]

Do you not see though that the praise of Kubrick does not take this form the vast majority of the time? I mean he does have some writing credits and people praise some choices in adaptation but his reputation obviously rests on the way his films look/sound and the performances within them rather than any writing.

That many of them are adapting famous novels as well surely makes it unlikely people will give him sole credit for writing them?

If I was looking to throw this kind of criticism around Kubrick would be exactly the last director I'd pick out who worked with other peoples writing.

I just enjoy writer/director filmmaker auteurs more when the praise and blame for their story arc rests firmly on their own shoulders, original screenplays are full-transparency when it comes to evaluating why something was included

 

[MacDuffle]

Do you not see though that the praise of Kubrick does not take this form the vast majority of the time?

I thought I made several detailed posts listing incorrectly-attributed popular praises of Kubrick

because it's extremely worth noting that young Kubrick students believe he:

1. Invented Dystopian youth narratives culminating in Institutionalization (Clockwork Orange)
2. Invented Dystopian space narratives culminating in machines rejecting their masters (2001: A Space Odyssey)
3. Invented Dystopian war narratives with a dark sense of humor culminating in mental and emotional breaks (Full Metal Jacket)

none of which come anywhere close to the history of storytelling, something which has very real, very accessible origin points in the history of film and especially international cinema

Hell, some kids that never took one hard look at the history of the horror genre in their life try claiming Kubrick invented "haunted burial ground" horror with The Shining

even in cinematography "firsts" Clockwork Orange wasn't the first film to rape someone in long-take or forward-track a car, no matter what his creepy gross fanboys might try telling you

those are definitely attributed to Kubrick at a popular level, often by younger film students who don't know about films like Tarkovsky's Solaris or what a science-fiction short story looked like in the late 50s or what early contemporary British novels wrote about institutionalizing "troublesome boys"

 

[Fossor]

Any comic based movie.
Star wars, all of them. Those bombs falling down in zero g...

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Just reposting your own claims doesn't make them true though does it? again I would say that no there isn't widespread claims for Kubrick "inventing" these narratives, perhaps there praise for him to be one of the first to adapt such work to the screen and certain there is praise for helping to create the way it would be shown onscreen but his not writing 2001(although he did work with C.Clark) and Clockwork Orange is pretty universally known.

2001 actually predates Solaris of course which itself was an adaptation although if you were going to be critical of Kubrick I think the same lines Tarkovsky was with 2001 when making Solaris would be the way to go, that he was too cold and impersonal.

I mean I do personally preffer Solaris, Stalker and Blade Runner to 2001 due to the stronger human dramatic touch to them.

 

[TKing]

Big Lebowski
Logan
Honorable mention because people here worship the movie - Drive

Also I enjoyed MM Fury Road, come at me bro.

 

[TheWobbler]

Avatar

 

[Ranzou**]

Black Panther for sure. It was literally just another superhero movie to me. I mean it was good don't get me wrong but the absolute ONLY reason it got such high scores was, "All Black Cast." Not that there is anything wrong with that, it just can't be the only reason a movie is considered acclaimed. Lol

 

[cottagecheesefan]

As someone who full-blown despised The Royal Tenenbaums, Life Aquatic and Bottle Rocket, I would argue Moonrise Kingdom is one of the best films about Boy Scouts ever made

That movie felt "unrealistic" to you? Everything about it (maybe ignore the weird lightning strike) seemed extremely resonant with coming-of-age material in a way that wasn't forced or inorganic to me, I really think that film stands out from his other work...

I actually did not see that one, as I had grown accustomed to not liking his films. I actually watched Grand Budapest Hotel, which came out after, and did not like it. I assumed one of his movies, especially about boy scouts was going to be cringe worthy lol.

I'll check it out tho and see if I can make it through.

 

[MacDuffle]

I actually did not see that one, as I had grown accustomed to not liking his films. I actually watched Grand Budapest Hotel, which came out after, and did not like it. I assumed one of his movies, especially about boy scouts was going to be cringe worthy lol.

I'll check it out tho and see if I can make it through.

my wife loves saying anyone who accuses Moonrise Kingdom of hipster adult-characterizations shamelessly loved Little Rascals and Matilda as a kid and will fail to see the irony in that

 

[Oh_snap_its_steven]

Life of pi
Dunkirk