Ongoing Team Lloyd Irvin Scandal - Part 6

[RAWilliams]

It really is sad.

You'd think that, if they didn't believe there was anything wrong with what they did, they'd publicize the facts themselves. Instead, they're trying to force everyone else to keep their filthy little secrets. This is what a teacher of mine once called "the stupid test". Basically someone's checking to see whether you're willing to partake of their bad behavior by helping cover it up. If you resist, they punish you to see if you fall into line. If you still resist, they attack in earnest.

Their logic is just plain messed up. How can it be OK for person A to do something, but not OK for person B to say that a public record exists of A having done that thing? That's almost as bad as Schultz's whiny mother bleating about how she forgives the victim for the fact her son's life is ruined.

Apple. Tree. Both rotten.

 

[georgetteo]

For the record I have offered to both Schultz and Maldonado the following: send me a copy of the video (which of course they can get from their previous attorneys, or current civil defense attorneys.) I will give it to a judge to watch and have the judge write a sworn affidavit detailing their opinion whether the video establishes the elements of the crimes the defendants were charged with.

Of course as of yet I have not received a reply from either.

 

[oyaji poi]

I don't get it. He is going to call people out on social media and not let them respond?

The FB page conversations are weird because whoever runs it keeps deleting posts after they respond. So it looks like the owner is having a one-sided conversation.

 

[ElKarlo]

You'd think that, if they didn't believe there was anything wrong with what they did, they'd publicize the facts themselves. Instead, they're trying to force everyone else to keep their filthy little secrets. This is what a teacher of mine once called "the stupid test". Basically someone's checking to see whether you're willing to partake of their bad behavior by helping cover it up. If you resist, they punish you to see if you fall into line. If you still resist, they attack in earnest.

Their logic is just plain messed up. How can it be OK for person A to do something, but not OK for person B to say that a public record exists of A having done that thing? That's almost as bad as Schultz's whiny mother bleating about how she forgives the victim for the fact her son's life is ruined.

Apple. Tree. Both rotten.

No no no. They are victims to a pitch fork mob. Posting details would just said mob, ammo.
It really is amazing how some people double down, really hard on bad bets. This isn't a ship that I would go down on.

 

[ElKarlo]

Nope. It is a public page. Blast away.

Just did. I hope this gets them to reconsider

 

[AcesUp22]

Just did. I hope this gets them to reconsider

It should. If this owner sees his business dropping, Mateo's presence at the gym will have to be in the owners mind no matter how "tight" they are.

 

[ElKarlo]

It should. If this owner sees his business dropping, Mateo's presence at the gym will have to be in the owners mind no matter how "tight" they are.

That, or he may double down on his choice. It is clear he isn't a thinking man by hiring a rapist like Mateo

 

[LaBrian]

That, or he may double down on his choice. It is clear he isn't a thinking man by hiring a rapist like Mateo

Hopefully he had no idea. If you don't follow DC local news or the BJJ scene, how would you? I guess we'll find out soon enough.

 

[ElKarlo]

Hopefully he had no idea. If you don't follow DC local news or the BJJ scene, how would you? I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Indeed. It may have been a mistake. Now is time for the real test of character,

Though as a high profile person as he was, he should have know he was a rapist. Simple google

 

[acaijuice]

Is it just me, or did the Gotham FB page delete everything since October of last year?

 

[LaBrian]

My review, and the other 1 star reviews about them hiring him are still there.

 

[Bret Griffin]

Moral and legal problems aside on thing that can't be argued is that LI had champions coming out of his team and I wonder what separated his teams training from the rest of the competition. Would anyone with some insight about the academy care to elaborate on what allowed his fighters to improve so quickly?

 

[shunyata]

No one ever said he was bad at coaching. He's quite good at that. He's also a very good fighter in general. It's just that he has a strong history of being a financial predator and a sexual predator.

 

[Bret Griffin]

No one ever said he was bad at coaching. He's quite good at that. He's also a very good fighter in general. It's just that he has a strong history of being a financial predator and a sexual predator.

1.) So this doesn't get locked it would probably be best if we avoided the elephant in the room.

2.) But was it his technical knowledge or was it the structure he out forth for his athletes training?

 

[Da Speeit]

2.) But was it his technical knowledge or was it the structure he out forth for his athletes training?

From what i've heard from LI himself through articles and interviews, it was just his focus on specific moves, passes, sweeps, and the intensity at which he taught.

An anecdote is that he promoted a student to purple, they looked really good in competition directly after being promoted, but was getting massacred by browns and blacks at the school. So he took two weeks and worked with them personally and just absolutely put the fire on them and didn't give them any room to get complacent. If they got mounted they were there until they figured out a way to get out. He did that for two weeks, gave them a brown belt and they did very well in competition at brown.

^something like that, the story was years ago, but the general thesis is that he just believed in hard training, didn't follow the well-accepted modicum of patience and just kept that as a general feeling around his school.

 

[TangoMF]

Mostly the raping.

 

[Sexy Pants]

Structure and more structure

 

[Bret Griffin]

From what i've heard from LI himself through articles and interviews, it was just his focus on specific moves, passes, sweeps, and the intensity at which he taught.

An anecdote is that he promoted a student to purple, they looked really good in competition directly after being promoted, but was getting massacred by browns and blacks at the school. So he took two weeks and worked with them personally and just absolutely put the fire on them and didn't give them any room to get complacent. If they got mounted they were there until they figured out a way to get out. He did that for two weeks, gave them a brown belt and they did very well in competition at brown.

^something like that, the story was years ago, but the general thesis is that he just believed in hard training, didn't follow the well-accepted modicum of patience and just kept that as a general feeling around his school.

That makes a lot of sense, do you happen to have the source?

 

[Bret Griffin]

Mostly the raping.

This isn't the thread for that.

 

[Rich959]

For the record I have offered to both Schultz and Maldonado the following: send me a copy of the video (which of course they can get from their previous attorneys, or current civil defense attorneys.) I will give it to a judge to watch and have the judge write a sworn affidavit detailing their opinion whether the video establishes the elements of the crimes the defendants were charged with.

Of course as of yet I have not received a reply from either.

Wouldn't either of those attorney's probably advise them against doing that?