Law Old man Trump just signed an EO that wiped out every environmental protection act of last 100 years

[BoomStronk]

Sounds so delicious.

I miss eating moose heart. My dad was a high ranked game warden and his men often gave him hearts once they learned it was my mom's favourite cut.

Who does the game warden rankings? Ufc?

 

[Deorum]

The regulations listed (like the Nuclear Waste Policy Act of 1982 for example) are acts, which are laws, passed by congress. I don’t think the potus can just decide certain laws must expire by Executive Order. Maybe I am wrong, but this looks like a bullshit EO to me.

He isn't necessarily doing that, but rather attempting to place sunset expirations to roll back regulations that have been created by federal agencies in accordance with and to enforce environmental laws established by Acts of Congress. It's still going to be laughed out of court, because doing so violates another Act of Congress that lays out procedural rules. I'm a hell of a lot more concerned with the GOP's recon bill to start offloading parcels of public land. It isn't the actual land in question that is of particular importance but the principle and precedent. I genuinely hope the Dems can get their shit together, and soon.

That's rich coming from a postwhore who fishes for likes on a mma forum.

The dude is good for nothing but picking internet catfights and posting reaction gifs. There's just nothing there that could be described as remotely entertaining, informative, or worthwhile. And he's got a lot of posts.

Such a shame.

In before Deodum tries to explain that this doesn't matter because they won't touch the most pristine land or some shit.

This is what he was referring to, lol.

When a British based rag outlet publishes a wild claim about 280 million acres of American wilderness being put on the chopping block for clear-cutting with prized forests at risk and I say "No", that isn't a defense of nor an excuse for the retarded executive order. It's a familiarity with US conservation and environmental law. And I was right, wasn't I? Yeah, I was. It was fucking obvious when IUCN Level I & II lands were already excluded from the jump.

He can't hold a conversation, and the subject matter is entirely over his head.

 

[Mr Holmes]

'm probably voting Dem next year in support of the gridlock alone.

That's not a bad idea. If the Democrats weren't trying to destroy my city and state, I would probably consider doing the same.

 

[sickc0d3r]

He isn't necessarily doing that, but rather attempting to place sunset expirations to roll back regulations that have been created by federal agencies in accordance with and to enforce environmental laws established by Acts of Congress. It's still going to be laughed out of court, because doing so violates another Act of Congress that lays out procedural rules. I'm a hell of a lot more concerned with the GOP's recon bill to start offloading parcels of public land. It isn't the actual land in question that is of particular importance but the principle and precedent. I genuinely hope the Dems can get their shit together, and soon.

Still not sure I understand the difference. Like, doesn’t congress have to pass something to change an existing act or law? You know way more about this environmental stuff than I do, though, tbf.
In any case, this admin has been nuttier than squirrel shit and it’s only motherfucking April.

I genuinely hope the Dems can get their shit together, and soon.

You and me both, hombre. But, let’s just say I ain’t holding my breath.

 

[Andy Capp]

Hard tack may be gourmet food to moose, but no, that is not a biscuit. G'wan witcha.

 

[Sweater of AV]

That's rich coming from a postwhore who fishes for likes on a mma forum.

That's rich coming from a loser that goes on alcoholic rages on a karate forum.



Sort your shit out, son. It's hilarious how trash seems to attract each other.

 

[ShadowRun]

Lol why are you getting so worked up over Bill Maher just being honest and matterly factly about how his dinner with Trump went?

Did you want him to lie and say he was crazy? You people are demented and need help.

This is why, Bill doesn't bend the knee like others do.

He doesn't believe a man can get pregnant or man should be in woman sports. He is still a liberal though .. But if you don't go along with whatever they make up like "hey guys there are 110 genders now"

They turn on you .

 

[koquerelle]

That's rich coming from a loser that goes on alcoholic rages on a karate forum.



Sort your shit out, son. It's hilarious how trash seems to attract each other.

 

[koquerelle]

The dude is good for nothing but picking internet catfights and posting reaction gifs. There's just nothing there that could be described as remotely entertaining, informative, or worthwhile. And he's got a lot of posts.

He shitposts in all the subforums. The pathetic slob has no life.

 

[pinger]

Project 2025 in full swing

 

[Sweater of AV]

He isn't necessarily doing that, but rather attempting to place sunset expirations to roll back regulations that have been created by federal agencies in accordance with and to enforce environmental laws established by Acts of Congress. It's still going to be laughed out of court, because doing so violates another Act of Congress that lays out procedural rules. I'm a hell of a lot more concerned with the GOP's recon bill to start offloading parcels of public land. It isn't the actual land in question that is of particular importance but the principle and precedent. I genuinely hope the Dems can get their shit together, and soon.



The dude is good for nothing but picking internet catfights and posting reaction gifs. There's just nothing there that could be described as remotely entertaining, informative, or worthwhile. And he's got a lot of posts.



This is what he was referring to, lol.



He can't hold a conversation, and the subject matter is entirely over his head.

"Don't worry, they'll litigate and I only care about the most pristine land. Oh but I love the land and the environment. I definitely hate Trump but I make excuses for everything he does."

You are a brick.

He shitposts in all the subforums. The pathetic slob has no life.

An alcoholic that can't control himself and is worried about everything falling apart while crying about likes on a karate forum.

Quite a life.

 

[koquerelle]

"Don't worry, they'll litigate and I only care about the most pristine land. Oh but I love the land and the environment. I definitely hate Trump but I make excuses for everything he does."

You are a brick.

An alcoholic that can't control himself and is worried about everything falling apart while crying about likes on a karate forum.

Quite a life.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Your poor wife is going to have to deal with this morning. Lol.

 

[koquerelle]

Your poor wife is going to have to deal with this morning. Lol.

Wow. A master of language.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Wow. A master of language.

Apparently you're not.

Just give her my condolences when things have cleared up for you. Oh and I hope you enjoyed my "shitposting" in your AA thread.



Sherdog bless. Good luck to you.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

No, it’s just about efficiency. Instead of implementing a regulation without an end date, that outlives its useful life, you require a yearly renewal.

So why has he done it specifically for environmental regulations and not just regulations in general?

 

[Deorum]

Still not sure I understand the difference. Like, doesn’t congress have to pass something to change an existing act or law? You know way more about this environmental stuff than I do, though, tbf.

The laws are passed by acts of Congress that lay out a broad scope of generalized directives and guidelines that provide enabling legislation for federal agencies to interpret and enforce: that includes the creation of regulations and rules (Musk's biggest gripe) that must provide specific analysis and often scientific evidence to justify before going through a public comment process to become established (or likewise, rescinded) and they can further be challenged in court.

He can't and did not overturn the laws, but he's attempting to rescind a bunch of regulations that were established after their creation with no justification beyond "because I said so," and it doesn't hold up. It violates the APA, and what this administration wants to do quite clearly runs blatantly contrary to the directives laid out in the aforementioned laws, which present additional legal hurdles and challenges because they damn well can't justify their actions through facts or scientific evidence.

In any case, this admin has been nuttier than squirrel shit and it’s only motherfucking April.

Trump himself doesn't have a clue what he's even doing here, and there's no chance in hell he even knows what laws or regulations exist (none, lol). But he's well on his way to Inverse Mount Rushmore. The corporate polluters and policy wonks wielding influence over this presidency and within his inner circle who are actually writing these executive orders are absolute caricatures of human beings and an enemy to humanity, just completely worthless pieces of shit. It isn't even that they're overtly hostile to the environment or things like endangered species. It's just fucking money.

They give this shit a pass. That's why I cannot take @Deorum seriously. He's a smart guy, and he knows what is happening. It's sad that him and others are going down that road. Making excuses. It's disgusting.

If you aren't going to list these excuses, then don't tag me again (nevermind multiple times). I don't have time for this schizo shit.

 

[Deorum]

America is arguably the most beautiful country in the world from a nature perspective. Good to see that the leaders give a shit about it.

Beauty is subjective, and people have different tastes. But in terms of sheer variety of geology, ecosystems, natural features, and landscapes to be found, it is nearly unparalleled. And that is true even if you were to cut off everything east of the Black Hills.



Who Owns It? The American People.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Beauty is subjective, and people have different tastes. But in terms of sheer variety of geology, ecosystems, natural features, and landscapes to be found, it is nearly unparalleled. And that is true even if you were to cut off everything east of the Black Hills.



Who Owns It? The American People.

It's an incredible country anyway and once you throw Alaska in there it just gets breathtaking.

Worth fighting for imo. I say this as someone who comes from a country that's so built up it has pretty limited natural beauty compared to the States. Don't lose what you have. I'm frankly amazed people don't seem to be bothered about passing this beauty down to their descendents.

 

[Cole train]

It's an incredible country anyway and once you throw Alaska in there it just gets breathtaking.

Worth fighting for imo. I say this as someone who comes from a country that's so built up it has pretty limited natural beauty compared to the States. Don't lose what you have. I'm frankly amazed people don't seem to be bothered about passing this beauty down to their descendents.

Yea i am not a fan of the fact that Europe has very little actual wilderness, basically only in northern europe or russia (im jealous of siberia)

Central europe is so built up it hurts