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Official Women's Division Discussion #26

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Waterson has what, one top five win ever? At a lower weight class.

Michelle most recently had a nice unanimous decision victory over Herrig. Before that she beat Cast Iron Casey. Karolina beat Herrig by split decision then suffered that devastating first round KO by Andrade. I like Karolina and Michelle & think it's a good match. They're both listed at 5'3" though I think Karolina's bigger.
 
Michelle most recently had a nice unanimous decision victory over Herrig. Before that she beat Cast Iron Casey. Karolina beat Herrig by split decision then suffered that devastating first round KO by Andrade. I like Karolina and Michelle & think it's a good match. They're both listed at 5'3" though I think Karolina's bigger.

KK by UD.
 
Hoping someone who can create a poll like our friend @Better Every Day does so in the main section for Karolina vs. Michelle. That usually attracts better discussion. The current thread about it has no poll and the typical circle jerk comments.
 
Hoping someone who can create a poll like our friend @Better Every Day does so in the main section for Karolina vs. Michelle. That usually attracts better discussion. The current thread about it has no poll and the typical circle jerk comments.
I count two threads already... neither with a poll.

But, as a rule, I don't make competing threads (even for the sake of a poll) unless the earlier threads mess up in some serious (in my mind) way such as misspelling, or leaving out, a fighter's name in the title (which makes the thread search-unfriendly).

At least we have some WMMA fans other than myself willing to brave "The Heavies" to start legit WMMA threads. I'd rather support them in their efforts than compete with them.
 
I count two threads already... neither with a poll.

But, as a rule, I don't make competing threads (even for the sake of a poll) unless the earlier threads mess up in some serious (in my mind) way such as misspelling, or leaving out, a fighter's name in the title (which makes the thread search-unfriendly).

At least we have some WMMA fans other than myself willing to brave "The Heavies" to start legit WMMA threads. I'd rather support them in their efforts than compete with them.

Thanks for the explanation. Makes good sense.
 
Bellator has an atomweight fight booked for Feb.

Another reason for #ufcatomweight: Bellator might beat them to the punch. Again. Could just be a one off, as Messer is a local girl, but you never know.
 
Another reason for #ufcatomweight: Bellator might beat them to the punch. Again. Could just be a one off, as Messer is a local girl, but you never know.
Bellator has booked 115 fights also. Most likely 1 or 2 of the 105ers are from near the area and is being used to sell tickets.
 
Bellator has booked 115 fights also. Most likely 1 or 2 of the 105ers are from near the area and is being used to sell tickets.
Well like I said, Messer is a local girl, so I'm sure that helps, but like I said, ityou never know, it could be the start of something. They beat UFC to the punch with flyweight (and arguably have run their division better), they could possibly do the same with atomweight.
 
Marisa Messer must get asked if she did porn before. If you google her name under videos, you'll understand.
 
Based on the caption maybe Valentina was actually truthful when she said she wanted to be an active champ. The relevant hashtag being Champ Camp.

That's not easy fight, I guess UFC 236?
 
Nice picks.

Tatina by prison rape.
Karolina by clinch work and elbows.
Claudia by hopefully getting her shit together again.

You’re probably right, but I can’t help but think Gadelha’s days of getting her shit together may be behind her. I can’t understand how she was never able to improve her cardio. I get it, genetics don’t allow everyone to be a cardio machine, but you’d think someone that size ought to be able to go more than two rounds without gassing.
 
You’re probably right, but I can’t help but think Gadelha’s days of getting her shit together may be behind her. I can’t understand how she was never able to improve her cardio. I get it, genetics don’t allow everyone to be a cardio machine, but you’d think someone that size ought to be able to go more than two rounds without gassing.

You would think. She needs a real head coach and needs to stay away from Jackson-Wink.
 
Someone that looked up her record said her fights were at 115. So not only was she 0-12 she would have been undersized fighting a 125er. Bellator must have some big plans for the TKD girl because this was setting up to be the biggest squash match they ever booked.
A lot of then were at 115, a fair few She weighed in at 120, She even fought once at featherweight
 
You’re probably right, but I can’t help but think Gadelha’s days of getting her shit together may be behind her. I can’t understand how she was never able to improve her cardio. I get it, genetics don’t allow everyone to be a cardio machine, but you’d think someone that size ought to be able to go more than two rounds without gassing.

It's a gameplanning issue.

She is like pre-ATT Nunes, when she gets tired she will spam sloppy takedowns instead of backing up to save her energy. She clearly won the striking exchange in round 1 against Andrade, then she went for sloppy takedowns in round 2 under pressure from Andrade.

She needs to find a good head coach, so she can work out a gameplan. She should rely on her striking more to open up takedown opportunities.

Also, boob job was a really bad idea.
 
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