Multiplat Official Witcher 4 Discussion (2027)

[Bob Gray]

Witcher 1 was unplayable by its own days standards. It was dog shit.

Nah. It had a very rough start, though. It took a good several hours and levels before the game really seemed to get going.

 

[Bob Gray]

No gamplay footage = LOOKS GREAT!

One of the devs said that was the look and graphical fidelity they were "going for", which is a bad sign as far as the progress they've made. That statement tells me they aren't even in a place where the look of the game has been put in place.

CDPR has always announced their stuff WAY too early with a cinematic instead of gameplay. This wont release before 2027. Bank on it.

 

[Substance Abuse]

The choices and different endings made it so the game didn't rail road you and gave you replay-ability. It wasn't canon to the story nor was it intended as such. It's a game, that is departed from the original source material, how far that goes doesn't make people criticism a cesspool. It's about finding balance, and most entertainment companies don't give a fuck because marks are going to pre-order and spend money on DLC anyways. The whole industry is fucked and the "cesspool" is in the right every damn time even if I disagree with them just on that principle alone.

Cool. W4 makes an ending in W3 cannon. I know it's departed from it's original source material which are the books. W3 is an all time game. CP2077 is one of the best games of it's generation at this point. I trust CDPR. People can cry if they want. I don't care.

 

[Substance Abuse]

One of the devs said that was the look and graphical fidelity they were "going for", which is a bad sign as far as the progress they've made. That statement tells me they aren't even in a place where the look of the game has been put in place.

CDPR has always announced their stuff WAY too early with a cinematic instead of gameplay. This wont release before 2027. Bank on it.

I 100% agree. The first Cyberpunk cinematic trailer dropped in 2013.

 

[Croaker]

Cool. W4 makes an ending in W3 cannon. I know it's departed from it's original source material which are the books. W3 is an all time game. CP2077 is one of the best games of it's generation at this point. I trust CDPR. People can cry if they want. I don't care.

Not really, the point is there is no canon ending there tbf, Geralt would technically be dead. That's why it wouldn't be considered canon at all in the end.

Lol @ W3 and all timer and 2077 best of a generation

this isn't even a real conversation at this point, have a good night fam

 

[Bob Gray]

I 100% agree. The first Cyberpunk cinematic trailer dropped in 2013.

Yeah, I remember that being frigging almost a decade before the game come out. Redonkulous.

 

[Sunnyvale TP]

Idiots complaining about Ciri being the protagonist clearly didn't finish Witcher 3 and get multiple endings. It's Witcher 4 for a reason as it's continuing the story with familiar characters. CDPR already said Geralt wouldn't be the main character years ago. The internet is a cesspool of shit and everyone whines about everything. All this trailer did was confirm what was cannon as there was so many different endings.

Geralt also looked different in certain cinematic trailers before W3. She'll likely look somewhat different upon release.

I'm more concerned with CDPR releasing a buggy mess when this drops in a few years. If it isn't, that's a huge win, as the story telling is always on point with these guys.

Agreed. Gameplay could suck, but the story points are ok with me if it goes this way.

 

[Substance Abuse]

Not really, the point is there is no canon ending there tbf, Geralt would technically be dead. That's why it wouldn't be considered canon at all in the end.

Lol @ W3 and all timer and 2077 best of a generation

this isn't even a real conversation at this point, have a good night fam

Yes, the story that W4 will tell does make an ending of W3 canon.

Good riddance.

 

[Substance Abuse]

Yeah, I remember that being frigging almost a decade before the game come out. Redonkulous.

Everyone's worked up over a cinematic trailer that doesn't tell us much for a game that is years out. Is normal.

 

[Croaker]

Yes, the story that W4 will tell does make an ending of W3 canon.

Good riddance.

You're beyond stupid if you think anything is canon. The games aren't separate, they're derived from the source material. The ending doesn't make it canon, its not its own world/univers/story

Anywaays, 2077 was such a fucking slop heap of shit I can't take you seriously

 

[Substance Abuse]

You're beyond stupid if you think anything is canon. The games aren't separate, they're derived from the source material. The ending doesn't make it canon, its not its own world/univers/story

Anywaays, 2077 was such a fucking slop heap of shit I can't take you seriously

K. Thought you were leaving.

 

[Substance Abuse]

Had a weird journey with Gwent. Usually avoid minigames and thought it busywork. 100s of play hours later, at some point I started squaring up and fell in love. Spy and decoy cards were my go-to. Plus Geralt's card at a picogram-pulsating 15 STR. Stoked to hear it's returning.

Spoiler

Triss, page me, baby. You know Yennefer didn't mean anything to me.

Was on the Triss wagon too, lol.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Cool. W4 makes an ending in W3 cannon.

Not really, the point is there is no canon ending there tbf, Geralt would technically be dead.

Yes, the story that W4 will tell does make an ending of W3 canon.

Good riddance.

You're beyond stupid if you think anything is canon.

Here's the thing...
There's a very simple way to get around any of the W3 endings as being 'canon.'
Just like at the beginning of W3, Geralt is asked about the prior events of the first two games. They can ask Ciri about the events of the last game.

Word is that the events of Witcher4 explains how and why Ciri does the trails of the grasses, and there's no way that can be adequately done through vague flashbacks. So before the trials Ciri will be asked how she went from empress... or her version of a Witcher... to about to do the trials.

Before you say 'there's no possible way that can be done in a satisfying way.' So far CDPR has only dissapointed me was with the launch of CP2077.

Keep in mind the CDPR execs grew up reading and loving the Witcher books, and built their reputation based on developing a sequel-series of games to the books. As much as we fear the studio may go 'woke' or not know what they're doing narratively... they're not going to let anyone ruin Ciri. They could have done the typical 'safe' sequel of bringing Geralt out of retirement for one last hunt - 'Unforgiven style.'

By the way, if you were asking yourself - 'Does Ciri and Geralt die at the end of one of Witcher3's endings?' This video may be enlightening to you.



TLDR - Geralt & Ciri's are actually very ambiguous.

But that opens up its own set of worms.
So that means Ciri stops the White Frost, and afterwards chooses to not reunite with everyone... because Geralt didn't get into a snowball fight with her? (One of the absolute worst things about the choices to get an ending.)

Although we may be overanalyzing absolute everything about what we know about Witcher4 and speculating about what we don't... its worth mentioning by no means is Witcher3 narratively perfect.

 

[GtehMVP]

You're beyond stupid if you think anything is canon. The games aren't separate, they're derived from the source material. The ending doesn't make it canon, its not its own world/univers/story

Anywaays, 2077 was such a fucking slop heap of shit I can't take you seriously

Are you talking about Cyberpunk's early days here? In its current state, the game is a near masterpiece.

 

[Croaker]

Are you talking about Cyberpunk's early days here? In its current state, the game is a near masterpiece.

Yes, I wouldn't know if it's a masterpiece. Shit games that aren't complete on launch get refunded immediately.

 

[GtehMVP]

Yes, I wouldn't know if it's a masterpiece. Shit games that aren't complete on launch get refunded immediately.

It's not just a complete game now, but completely different in so many ways. They overhauled builds and leveling in one of the patches, maybe 2.0 a while ago? With the Phantom Liberty expansion, it's now a complete game with all kinds of other big and little enhancements. With the new people in charge, I expect more free content, like the recent update that surprised a lot of us. The old guard wanted to put it to rest once it was patched properly, but these new suits look like they want to keep it in the limelight. There's a new anime in the works, so it would be wise to keep releasing new stuff from time to time, as the sequel is a long way off.

It was a joke at launch and a good year afterwards. They should be commended for fixing the bullshit, but always reminded of the deceptive launch. I don't blame you at all, especially if you bought it on PS4. No one was fucked more than old gen customers that didn't refund it when they had the chance. They can't even buy the DLC and probably aren't getting these new updates. I think you could (maybe still can) upgrade to the newer systems for free though.

Give it a go on either on a PC that can push it, or a next gen console, def worth your time now. It's a hell of a ride.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Yes, I wouldn't know if it's a masterpiece. Shit games that aren't complete on launch get refunded immediately.

I completely respect that sentiment.

But also it should be noted through years of extra development time for not just the base game but also the expansion, that CP2077 isn't just in a 'playable' state, its probably in the Top #3 Games released in the last 5 years.

I won't excuse CDPR for the condition they launched the game, and their trust they had with gamers will never be built back up to how strong it was before the launch, but they've done a pretty good job at repairing it.

If you refuse to play CP2077 at this point you're only depriving yourself of one of the greatest gaming experiences available now.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

After posting that xLetalis video about the 'bad' Witcher 3 ending, it occurred to me I hadn't watched his videos for many months... and I just now saw a very interesting video about a restored plot-thread from the final act that was cut from the game. It relates to Yennefer, The Emperor, and The Lodge of sorceresses.

If you recall Geralt had many questions about The Emperor giving a free pass to The Lodge, when he typically executes sorceresses on sight.
This resolves how CDPR would have ended that plot-thread.



36 minutes that are very much worth your time.

 

[ssBaldy]

I will admit that W1 is not timeless. I had a lot of fun playing it-- a long time ago. Witcher II was, at least for me, an amazing experience. Hell that whole year was amazing. Dark Souls came out.

W1 needs a remake. Except for weird fight mechanics and obviously dated graphics it is a great game.
W2- I remember when you run with Triss in the forest, where you run across a stream of water, the splashes of water sparkling in the sun were mind blowing for the time. Gameplay was a tad clunky but a lot fancier than the 1st one. The only thing I didnt like is that Geralt could not jump/climb except in designated places.

I don't get the hate W2/3 fight mechanics get. I don't think that Souls series fights are that good, tbh, I see why some people love them but for me personally they are very far from gold standard. TES fights are no better than Witcher's either.

 

[GearSolidMetal]