Official War Room Awards 2019

[TheOldMan]

Yeah. Fuck enablers. I'm for all out encouraging.

Skål !

 

[TheGreatA]

@Bald1 since he should get a a chance to defend his position here.

I’ll just add after skimming to one point. The Idea that immigrants should be held to a higher standard because the are guests and biting the hand that feeds in redonkulous on a 100 levels.

For starters it smacks of collective punishment and just throws human nature to the wind to justify some Xenophobic over reaction to a non problem. And if we are going down the collective guilt road we could discuss accepting responsibility for world’s mess. I am not saying that we should do that, but if immigrants are not making a crime problem worse, saying “well they are guests they should be perfect” is just setting up an impossible standard ahead of time to justify a preconceived conclusion. It’s bullshit.

I don't think anybody is really holding immigrants to a higher standard. Trust me, if they could apply to the standard of native populations here, or something close to that, nobody would be complaining. But it isn't even close.

Let's take for example, Somalis. They have an unemployment rate of over 55%. Most are not recent refugees at this point, but people who came in the 90's. They just don't give a shit. The rate hasn't moved an inch over the years, if anything, it has only gotten worse.

Or Iraqis or Afghans, who are committing sexual crimes at a rate of 130+/10 000 citizens, compared to 3/10 000 citizens for the natives.

And these are just statistics from Finland where we've had relatively few issues compared to a place like Sweden. Can't even begin to imagine how bad the real statistics look like, over there. Even the boosted statistics look plenty bad.


This is not a matter of demanding more, this is a matter of demanding a minimal standard of civilized behaviour. Don't rape, don't kill, don't rob, maybe try to work a job every once in a while or atleast try not to defraud the welfare services constantly (like this upstanding gentleman), is that such a harsh thing to ask?


Another thing that ought to be taken into account, in cases like Hungary, is that Turkey is literally boasting and threatening its neighbours with releasing millions of immigrants upon them, as if they're some sort of weapons. So Hungarians basically respond to this by saying, fuck this, we're building a wall and nobody's is coming in, rendering Turkey's threats ineffective. Which is just a great geo-political move by them. I don't see what the big deal is, since no Muslim immigrant is going to look forward to residing in Hungary anyway. It's relatively poor, and there are no established Muslim communities whatsoever.

This whole feigned outrage over their behaviour, is just absurd. After residing under Ottoman rule and Soviet rule throughout their recent history, they obviously don't want EU or Turkey to impose their will upon them, and dictate their policy. They want to focus on their own thing, without some federation or Empire breathing down their necks, for once, and for that I applaud them. They deserve a chance to promote their own culture, their own language, their own moral standards and religion. A chance that they haven't necessarily had for the past several hundred years of their existence.

 

[JDragon]

It's like my title of "War Room Can" aimed at the nipple head who labelled us as such.

"War Room Zealot" and "War Room Retard" are also available

 

[JDragon]

It is lacking in callouts. I blame this on @Lead cancelling the PotWR.

Former POTWRs MIA: 3/3 not counting @luckyshot's iPOTWR period

 

[Gandhi]

I don't think anybody is really holding immigrants to a higher standard. Trust me, if they could apply to the standard of native populations here, or something close to that, nobody would be complaining. But it isn't even close.

Let's take for example, Somalis. They have an unemployment rate of over 55%. Most are not recent refugees at this point, but people who came in the 90's. They just don't give a shit. The rate hasn't moved an inch over the years, if anything, it has only gotten worse.

Or Iraqis or Afghans, who are committing sexual crimes at a rate of 130+/10 000 citizens, compared to 3/10 000 citizens for the natives.

And these are just statistics from Finland where we've had relatively few issues compared to a place like Sweden. Can't even begin to imagine how bad the real statistics look like, over there. Even the boosted statistics look plenty bad.


This is not a matter of demanding more, this is a matter of demanding a minimal standard of civilized behaviour. Don't rape, don't kill, don't rob, maybe try to work a job every once in a while or atleast try not to defraud the welfare services constantly (like this upstanding gentleman), is that such a harsh thing to ask?


Another thing that ought to be taken into account, in cases like Hungary, is that Turkey is literally boasting and threatening its neighbours with releasing millions of immigrants upon them, as if they're some sort of weapons. So Hungarians basically respond to this by saying, fuck this, we're building a wall and nobody's is coming in, rendering Turkey's threats ineffective. Which is just a great geo-political move by them. I don't see what the big deal is, since no Muslim immigrant is going to look forward to residing in Hungary anyway. It's relatively poor, and there are no established Muslim communities whatsoever.

This whole feigned outrage over their behaviour, is just absurd. After residing under Ottoman rule and Soviet rule throughout their recent history, they obviously don't want EU or Turkey to impose their will upon them, and dictate their policy. They want to focus on their own thing, without some federation or Empire breathing down their necks, for once, and for that I applaud them. They deserve a chance to promote their own culture, their own language, their own moral standards and religion. A chance that they haven't necessarily had for the past several hundred years of their existence.

Actually I am directly responding to someone who says that if the stats come close to resembling the majority population that this is a problem. Let’s at least acknowledge that before I have to dive into the above.

 

[Gandhi]

Not lactating, but could use some milking. Wasn't aimed at you at all. We're totally good. It's like my title of "War Room Can" aimed at the nipple head who labelled us as such.

I'm not condemning a whole group. And to me "be on your best behavior" is not a right wing talking point but rather personal experience. From spending 6 months in a refugee/immigrant camp in Austria while undergoing the immigration process, to many years in Canada a few things were drilled into me. We must be on our best behavior. We must learn the language. We must prove ourselves to be worthy of the hospitality and generosity given us by our hosts. These things are basic. There were no stories of immigrants burning down camps for the lack of Nutella. No breaking into semi trucks to try and stow away. No mass rapes on New year's Eves. No sexual emergencies. There are documented stories of migrants saying we don't have to work, we're Merkel's guests. And to me that's craziness. Keep in mind I'm not even mentioning first hand accounts told to me as those can't be verified while the above have been discussed here along with media verification.

And no, it's not the majority acting like assholes. But if the stats come close to approaching the levels of citizens in the host country to me that shows ingratitude and I find that outrageous. The issue is one of accessibility and uncontrolled migration lacking proper vetting. How's this? I'm on record here saying I've never met a Nigerian I don't like. Meanwhile, in Sweden they have a problem with a Nigerian gang called Black Axe. The European situation isn't like the one in North America.

Anyways, I've been through this over, and over, and over again and this isn't the place for it. Just wanted to flesh out my position to you. Cheers!

Fair enough but I’ll just leave this here. The bold is the problem, something even approaching the mean is not outrageous, it’s average. And drawing conclusions on the treatment of an entire group based it or labeling something as uncontrolled because of it smacks of collective punishment.

 

[TheGreatA]

Actually I am directly responding to someone who says that if the stats come close to resembling the majority population that this is a problem. Let’s at least acknowledge that before I have to dive into the above.

He only said that after you had put up your response, though. And that's just an example of him walking into a land-mine. Which, I must admit, is a tendency among people who are critical of immigrants. Not always the best at presenting their case in a favourable light.

There's no reason to make such a silly (and demanding) argument considering that the level of crime committed by immigrants, in this particular case, isn't even close to being equal to that of native citizens. We are not even in the same galaxy, or universe, or dimension. There's such an outrageous statistical disproportion that even the most nutty among the left-wing have become extremely concerned about it. So to even talk about the debated immigrants being "statistically equal" to that of natives, is a stretch of utopian proportions, let alone anything worth somehow getting outraged about. Believe me, nobody outside Stormfront would be outraged, if that were the case.

That's why it is especially frustrating when one has to deal with A. the incapability of "right-wing" to present the facts as they exist, and B. the incapability of the "left" to be honest about the facts.

We are basically stuck in a situation where the right, for once in their life-times, are actually on the side of truth (a rarity, I know), but they've become so accustomed to being on the side of bullshit, that they simply don't know what to do with it. So they end up losing the argument anyway because simply do not know how to argue their position, despite holding the winning hand. And that is why we are going to have to deal with a continuous flow of criminality inside our borders, unchecked, unmitigated, because people are too pea-brained and incapable of holding a conversation, to look at the statistics and figure it out.

The left are hand-cuffed by their dogma, and the right are hand-cuffed by their own idiocy. Nothing gets done, people get robbed, people get raped, immigrant populations have their reputations tarnished, by the scumbag individuals who could have easily been checked at the border and sent back to where they belong.

 

[Fawlty]

Former POTWRs MIA: 3/3 not counting @luckyshot's iPOTWR period

Well, he did receive an interim ban, so I think the curse is still working as intended.

 

[JDragon]

Well, he did receive an interim ban, so I think the curse is still working as intended.

Maybe we should vote for one of the unspeakables next year


* if democracy returns

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Why was POTWR cancelled? It finally could have been my year. I take it I’m wasn’t reported at all in 2019 and didn’t report any posts either. I’m very forgettable.

 

[Fawlty]

Maybe we should vote for one of the unspeakables next year


* if democracy returns

This is a good time to take the office by force, just saying. The mansion is empty, so to speak.

"I, JDragon, hereby declare myself Resident of the War Room..."

It might even circumvent the curse.

 

[Lead]

Why was POTWR cancelled? It finally could have been my year. I take it I’m wasn’t reported at all in 2019 and didn’t report any posts either. I’m very forgettable.

The name change was a good one. That last one I could never remember and couldn’t tag you easily even with the software guessing

 

[Captain Davis]

Yup. forest porn. @Sara thought @Captain Davis and I were making that up.

Nope. It’s a thing. Porn in the woods was a right of passage as a kid.

 

[Captain Davis]

I had to watch Cinemax without paying for it so it was all static, but there was definitely something going on under there.

Oh it was a win to catch a glimpse of a titty between the squiggly lines.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Right-o. So no examples nor approval to disclose contents of PMs.

Disclosing PMs is a ban worthy offense though.

If you want examples, here's one aside from the one you already apologized for that I found after about two minutes of searching.

Spoiler

Do you actually deny that Mo started Islam as a business? It might have evolved, just as Scientology has, but he put a spin on the Abramic foundation out of self interest. Granted maybe I didn't make my point clear so maybe that's my bad.

Virtue signaling? Listen, Islam sucks and you know it. What other idea doesn't let it's adherents abandon it? This is something you have personal experience in and is only one example of many.

I get it. The constant barrage of well earned attacks on a piece of your culture have worn down your tolerance. Can't say I blame you, yet I remember when you didn't reflexively defend Islam but were much more objective.

Have a nice day!

So much for the difference between you and me being that I try and get a rise out of you. Cheers.

 

[irish_thug]

Why would immigrants not be held to a higher standard? Every immigrant I have ever known in the US was always scared that if they ran afoul of the law they might be deported. Is that not a good thing?

Seems some posters have broadened racist/xenophobia definition to anyone that is not on board with this weird new immigration narrative being pushed by some

By definition they have to be held to a higher standard. when someone is a natural born citizen or attains citizenship they don't go getting deported for breaking the law. That is not the case with refugee claimants, nor should it be.

I don't think anyone is saying that a refugee should have to outperform someone of different status (at least I hope not). But they shouldn't be allowed to abuse the host nation with impunity either.

 

[all caps]

By definition they have to be held to a higher standard. when someone is a natural born citizen or attains citizenship they don't go getting deported for breaking the law. That is not the case with refugee claimants, nor should it be.

I don't think anyone is saying that a refugee should have to outperform someone of different status (at least I hope not). But they shouldn't be allowed to abuse the host nation with impunity either.

I learned some interesting things about "illegal immigrants" that you kind of touched on here. But I will keep that to myself.

 

[Bald1]

He only said that after you had put up your response, though. And that's just an example of him walking into a land-mine. Which, I must admit, is a tendency among people who are critical of immigrants. Not always the best at presenting their case in a favourable light.

There's no reason to make such a silly (and demanding) argument considering that the level of crime committed by immigrants, in this particular case, isn't even close to being equal to that of native citizens. We are not even in the same galaxy, or universe, or dimension. There's such an outrageous statistical disproportion that even the most nutty among the left-wing have become extremely concerned about it. So to even talk about the debated immigrants being "statistically equal" to that of natives, is a stretch of utopian proportions, let alone anything worth somehow getting outraged about. Believe me, nobody outside Stormfront would be outraged, if that were the case.

That's why it is especially frustrating when one has to deal with A. the incapability of "right-wing" to present the facts as they exist, and B. the incapability of the "left" to be honest about the facts.

We are basically stuck in a situation where the right, for once in their life-times, are actually on the side of truth (a rarity, I know), but they've become so accustomed to being on the side of bullshit, that they simply don't know what to do with it. So they end up losing the argument anyway because simply do not know how to argue their position, despite holding the winning hand. And that is why we are going to have to deal with a continuous flow of criminality inside our borders, unchecked, unmitigated, because people are too pea-brained and incapable of holding a conversation, to look at the statistics and figure it out.

The left are hand-cuffed by their dogma, and the right are hand-cuffed by their own idiocy. Nothing gets done, people get robbed, people get raped, immigrant populations have their reputations tarnished, by the scumbag individuals who could have easily been checked at the border and sent back to where they belong.

That's me taking the easy path out while voicing my opinion. Unbelievable as it may sound to some, but it's pretty damned easy to stay out of trouble in a place like Sweden, Germany or the EU as a whole.

My point was if they can't extended the courtesy of living up to the bare minimum of standards of the host country then why should the host country extended them the courtesy of investing in their future? If there's no agreement to be had there then the rest of the conversation is moot.

 

[Bald1]

Disclosing PMs is a ban worthy offense though.

If you want examples, here's one aside from the one you already apologized for that I found after about two minutes of searching.
So much for the difference between you and me being that I try and get a rise out of you. Cheers.

So mentioning that you have experience in Islam is me attacking your identity? That sentence is like you telling me "Hungarian is a hard language and you know it".

If that's playing identity politics then the conversation becomes impossible.

 

[irish_thug]

"War Room Zealot" and "War Room Retard" are also available

dibs on "War Room bartender"