RBR ***Official*** Sherdog Sanctioned Paul vs Tyson 11/15 5:30PM ET ( Netflix )

[BullyKutta]

Jake will probably admit it at some point in the future but he 100% was going easy on Mike...he could have unloaded at any time. Maybe he was a little afraid of doing it but I don't think that was the whole story...

Along the same lines.

I'm 100% convinced that Silva took a dive for 'The Jake Paul Story'.

Do I think there was an official agreement in writing? God, no. But you don't need a formal conspiracy when like interests converge. Silva knew the role he was being asked to play for the obscene amount of money he was being paid. His professional career was definitely at an end, and he wanted one last extra bag.

There never was, nor will there ever be, a reality where Anderson Silva legitimately loses a striking match with Jake Paul. And I'm saying this as someone who's not much of a Silva fan to begin with. Even in his 40s, Silva was still able to display his savant-like knowledge of combat sports science.

The raw skill gap there was way too wide, and the punch that dropped Silva was way too soft.

 

[Neck&Neck]

Thanks for the likes @ColemanwastheGOAT
Some Wadtucket like ish

 

[Bubzeh]

Anyone that watched / bought this or was even remotely bothered about it deserves a slap I swear.

Sad.

 

[BullyKutta]

Pretty much.

Its main problem is the talent level is extremely low. Mostly old vets far past their prime. On tonights card there was a 48 year old... who won.

And the production values are dirt poor, from the production to the cage itself there needs to be serious improvements.


The #1 thing they need to do to make it more like its own unique MMA promotion is to drop the circular cage they bought from Bellator/PFL, and develop their own fight arena.

The Octagon/Circular cage is tired, and too reminescent of the UFC. And they're horrible for the audience to see unless they're watching on the overhead monitors.

And for the love of God, fire Brenden Schaub.
Get Adam Hunter back.

100% agree dude. In my 30 years of watching MMA, I've come to the sobering conclusion that there are two desperately needed fixes:

Gloves that lead to eyepokes.

• This is MUCH more fixable than is admitted.
• There are technological fixes and/or ruleset fixes that would make them disappear.

The other is that goddamn 'cage'.

• It doesn't look good or provide the audience with a good view.
• Fencegrabs are a continual problem despite the fact that there's no reason for it to be of the chainlink variety.
• Its very design creates unrealistic fight scenarios because the 'wall' of a cage is used as an offensive and defensive weapon unto itself.

To further explain, I'll say that Karate Combat is not my bag.

But Karate Combat's 'pit' design? Yeah, that thing's fucking awesome.

You not only get great views of the action, but it's just aesthetically cooler looking AND removes the goddamn wall 'n stall techniques that drive us all insane. I maintain that one of the reasons Pride FC is remembered so fondly is because a fight in a ring changes the dynamics of the fight considerably from a fight in a cage. You can't use a wall as a 'third arm' and just grind the action to a halt.

Frankly, I'm surprised no one else has tried to capitalize on the pit design because EVERY time I see the thing, I'm blown away at what a great visual it presents, as well as how it highly encourages a more engaging fight dynamic.

 

[BullyKutta]

Anyone that watched / bought this or was even remotely bothered about it deserves a slap I swear.

Sad.

Will you forgive those of us who pirated it?

 

[BullyKutta]

This generation is fucked when fighting against grandpas is seen as acceptable.

Yes.

In hindsight, this whole thing was incredibly shameful.

 

[Intermission]

I want to see Jake Paul vs Steven Seagal

 

[Romanovskic95]

100% agree dude. In my 30 years of watching MMA, I've come to the sobering conclusion that there are two desperately needed fixes:

Gloves that lead to eyepokes.

• This is MUCH more fixable than is admitted.
• There are technological fixes and/or ruleset fixes that would make them disappear.

The other is that goddamn 'cage'.

• It doesn't look good or provide the audience with a good view.
• Fencegrabs are a continual problem despite the fact that there's no reason for it to be of the chainlink variety.
• Its very design creates unrealistic fight scenarios because the 'wall' of a cage is used as an offensive and defensive weapon unto itself.

To further explain, I'll say that Karate Combat is not my bag.

But Karate Combat's 'pit' design? Yeah, that thing's fucking awesome.

You not only get great views of the action, but it's just aesthetically cooler looking AND removes the goddamn wall 'n stall techniques that drive us all insane. I maintain that one of the reasons Pride FC is remembered so fondly is because a fight in a ring changes the dynamics of the fight considerably from a fight in a cage. You can't use a wall as a 'third arm' and just grind the action to a halt.

Frankly, I'm surprised no one else has tried to capitalize on the pit design because EVERY time I see the thing, I'm blown away at what a great visual it presents, as well as how it highly encourages a more engaging fight dynamic.

I don't want to see MMA fights in a Boxing ring, but a pit would maybe work. Watching MMA matches in an actual octagon is part of the appeal imo.

 

[JPOMMA]

I feel like I have to say this.

Money gets old fast. It really does.

It’s one of the most unsatisfying drugs on the planet, in fact, because it promises so much and delivers so little.

When you spend time with filthy rich people who’ve made it their entire mission in life to hoard as much cash as possible at the expense of everything else, including dignity, you realize how miserable they are underneath it all.

A blue belt BJJ practitioner who legitimately wins a match against an equally skilled opponent has something that Jake Paul never will. The satisfaction in knowing that your victory wasn’t fraudulent.

There are things that no amount of money will buy. And these things often entail a lot of failure and loss before success is achieved.

Handpicking elderly and undersized opponents for fights is going to leave a gaping hole in this dude’s mind because he’s the one who has to live with the knowledge that everything he’s done in life has been a sham.

Very well said. The only thing to consider is that such people are satisfied with the sham. Not everyone knows or appreciates true worth or the “real thing”. I think it’s fine they go one doing the fake stuff. It doesn’t preclude others from feasting on true personal victories, in peace and quiet. If you have a treasure, you don’t yell it from a mountaintop…

 

[dogsdonutsdragons]

that mike tyson guy suck. some champion lol. couldnt even beat this 20 year old guy in his 70s. LOL.

seeing all the people that paid for this fight. im not really a fight fan anymore. to many retarded.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Gloves that lead to eyepokes.

• This is MUCH more fixable than is admitted.
• There are technological fixes and/or ruleset fixes that would make them disappear.

100% agreed.
I've always noticed the two fingers that always go into the opponents eye sockets are either the middle or index fingers... at least 98% of the time.
So... why not tape them together? And tape the ring & pinky fingers together That'd be applicable for bareknuckle.
For regular MMA gloves, have the padding that cover the too of the hands and knuckles also cover the middle & index fingers.
Anyway, that's an idea I'd like to at lease see a concept glove created so fighters can try on to get their opinions.

The other is that goddamn 'cage'.

• It doesn't look good or provide the audience with a good view.
• Fencegrabs are a continual problem despite the fact that there's no reason for it to be of the chainlink variety.
• Its very design creates unrealistic fight scenarios because the 'wall' of a cage is used as an offensive and defensive weapon unto itself.

To further explain, I'll say that Karate Combat is not my bag.

But Karate Combat's 'pit' design? Yeah, that thing's fucking awesome.

You not only get great views of the action, but it's just aesthetically cooler looking AND removes the goddamn wall 'n stall techniques that drive us all insane. I maintain that one of the reasons Pride FC is remembered so fondly is because a fight in a ring changes the dynamics of the fight considerably from a fight in a cage. You can't use a wall as a 'third arm' and just grind the action to a halt.

Frankly, I'm surprised no one else has tried to capitalize on the pit design because EVERY time I see the thing, I'm blown away at what a great visual it presents, as well as how it highly encourages a more engaging fight dynamic.

All great points.

For the UFC the cage is their staple. No chance they're going to change it.

But for newer promotions, they could experiment with new ideas... and mine would be... plexiglass.
Or some kind of transparent shield that is strong enough to not worry if it'd crack is two heavyweights slammed into it.

I could write out more ideas for the arrangement and reinflorcement of the plexiglass, but an engineer's expert opinion would be more valuable.

Put plexiglass would be my #1 priority in a design for a new MMA arena.

 

[squeezewax]

An old Larry Holmes or George Foreman would of TRIED to win in the first two rounds. This was staged from the start.
Tyson is a wanker! No respect for the guy at all.

 

[Mr Casual Fight]

that mike tyson guy suck. some champion lol. couldnt even beat this 20 year old guy in his 70s. LOL.

seeing all the people that paid for this fight. im not really a fight fan anymore. to many retarded.

Unless it's something outside of the U.S where people had to pay extra to watch it, I didn't buy it nor did I hear about my friends having to buy it. This was something provided to subscribers and AFAIK even people who had the free trial. I'd refrain from calling people retarded when a lot of them watched it using their sub they already had.

 

[KOByFootStomp]

word on the street is that jake paul is now calling out 100 year old former president jimmy carter to a boxing fight.

I got Jimmy in 6, Jake looked washed tonight.

 

[Mick Dojang]

This was a disgrace to the JBG but I'm glad everyone got paid

 

[JPOMMA]

Along the same lines.

I'm 100% convinced that Silva took a dive for 'The Jake Paul Story'.

Do I think there was an official agreement in writing? God, no. But you don't need a formal conspiracy when like interests converge. Silva knew the role he was being asked to play for the obscene amount of money he was being paid. His professional career was definitely at an end, and he wanted one last extra bag.

There never was, nor will there ever be, a reality where Anderson Silva legitimately loses a striking match with Jake Paul. And I'm saying this as someone who's not much of a Silva fan to begin with. Even in his 40s, Silva was still able to display his savant-like knowledge of combat sports science.

The raw skill gap there was way too wide, and the punch that dropped Silva was way too soft.

I just don’t understand why this is not obvious to people and why they are even watching these “fights”. I can’t even begin to comprehend how such a farce can even make money…and yet it does, by the boatloads.

 

[cmw43]

that mike tyson guy suck. some champion lol. couldnt even beat this 20 year old guy in his 70s. LOL.

seeing all the people that paid for this fight. im not really a fight fan anymore. to many retarded.

The fight was free...