Elections Official Sherdawg Presidential debate round 1 PbP

Who won the debate

  • I plan to vote Biden, and think Biden won

    Votes: 10 5.6%

  • I’m (honestly) undecided, and think Biden won

    Votes: 2 1.1%

  • I plan to vote Trump, and think Biden won

    Votes: 4 2.2%

  • I plan to vote Trump, and think Trump won

    Votes: 97 54.5%

  • I’m (honestly) undecided, and think Trump won

    Votes: 38 21.3%

  • I plan to vote Biden, and think Trump won

    Votes: 27 15.2%
  • Total voters
    178
Mr Holmes said:
He looks like a damn robot.
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My grandfather passed several years ago due to dementia. The way that Biden acts now is exactly how he acted when his decline started. Shuffling of the feet, nonsensical speaking, confusion, lack of people skills, angry outbursts, etc.

Jack V Savage said:
Watch the interview I sent. From September. Is it Biden at his absolute best? No. But he is sharper and more generally knowledgeable than Trump has ever been.

I didn't say that concerns about Biden's age and health are not legitimate. I said that accusations that he has dementia are insane and, yes, dishonorable. You guys should be able to make a case against him without resorting to that kind of thing. And, again, it happens every time. Clinton also was accused of hiding major medical issues, as well as being a murderer and child sex trafficker, among other ridiculous allegations. Obama was accused of not really being from America and some kind of brainless puppet. Kerry was accused of faking his military service record (even of injuring himself to get a purple heart). There's no fucking honor among you guys. Just explain why we should cut Medicaid/Medicare/SS do nothing about climate change, cut rich people's taxes, etc., if you think those are improvements.
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What are the odds you drop the old, fat, Gorbachev av and bring back the pleasant pipe smoking old man?
 
Jack V Savage said:
Looked up what you're talking about. I think we all know the answer to that (wink wink).
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Sure buddy, sure. "We all"...

You put me on ignore but can't help reply with this weak shit even when finding out he was replying to me.

FFS could you possibly get anymore pathetic? Nobody is with you in this "we all" garbage LMAO. I actually answered him too.

Just sad seeing you devolve into what you are.
 
Rational Poster said:
Yeah I think you're doing this thing where you confuse all Democrats with progressives. Progressives wanted Bernie and still do, at best some of them held their nose to keep Trump from winning, but they never liked Biden and still don't
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So @Scerpi was correct, progressives threw away their votes
 
mkess101 said:
She comes across as not super bright. Someone who advanced career wise for reasons other than intellect.

I'm from WI, I've likely seen more of Rodgers interviews etc than most people. And I have connections to some people who know him personally. (I met him once, briefly). Every one of them talk about how bright he is. Most of them ALSO talk about how bizarre he is, to be fair. And make no mistake, he's a loon. I don't want him in a political office. But my guess (yes, it's a guess but imo an educated one) is that he'd smoke Kamala on any sort of intellectual testing or contest or whatever you'd put them through.
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I don't even rate Kamala highly and yet all that comes off as off base to me. In my experience people tend to underestimate the amount of intelligence required to do someone else's job and especially when its something that isn't as straightforward as politics tends to be. On the other hand I think we're predisposed to perceive our favorite celebrities as particularly smart and especially athletes since we tend to have a low bar for them. So a smart athlete appears smarter than an average politician but I doubt that's actually true most of the time.
Mr Holmes said:
I know it doesn't matter to you, but it wasn't a rape allegation.
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That's not a meaningless distinction but if you swap out "rape" with "sexual assault/harassment" his lack of denial still looks really bad.
scoopj said:

80% now saying Biden is too old to run. I think he’ll need to drop out soon.
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That's tantamount giving the election to Trump which IMO is deeply irresponsible and misguided. Idk why Dems feel the need to give into these pressures when the GOP is running a convicted felon and feels no such similar pressure towards their candidate.
 
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mkess101 said:
Haven't "diagnosed" him. There are signs that are impossible to ignore though. As I said in another post--could be him staring with mouth agape happens to be a tic he's picked up that coincidentally mimics that of dementia patients. It's possible. But given his age and the other outward things we are seeing it would absolutely be very coincidental.
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Do you think that maybe he had to breathe through his mouth because he had a cold and his nose was stuffed?
Perhaps he took an antihistamine or or DayQuil earlier in the day as well.

I don’t think he was staring off into space like he wasn’t even there mentally, lost in a day dream, as when asked a question he responded.

Were his answers great? No. He got lost trying to get out what he wanted to say while at the same time attempting to counter the Gish gallop coming at him.
 
Islam Imamate said:
I don't even rate Kamala highly and yet all that comes off as off base to me. In my experience people tend to underestimate the amount of intelligence required to do someone else's job and especially when its something that isn't as straightforward as politics tends to be. On the other hand I think we're predisposed to perceive our favorite celebrities as particularly smart and especially athletes since we tend to have a low bar for them. So a smart athlete appears smarter than an average politician but I doubt that's actually true most of the time.

That's not a meaningless distinction but also if you swap out "rape" with "sexual assault/harassment" his lack of denial still looks really bad.

That's tantamount giving the election to Trump which IMO is deeply irresponsible and misguided. Idk why Dems feel the need to give into these pressures when the GOP is running a convicted felon and feels no such similar pressure towards their candidate.
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I believe the opposite is true. Biden is only going to get worse. If the Democrats replace him now with someone other than Kamala (Whitmer?), I think they’ll have a better chance to reach centrist voters.

And Trump can seemingly do anything and it won’t cost him his base. The felonies are practically a badge of honor.

ETA the GOP sold out when they supported Trump in 2016.
 
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Strychnine said:
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
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is it an opinion?

the left says free speech is violence and all they do do is censor when they get a smidge of power and anything that goes against their agenda gets curbstomped to bolivia.

individuals rights don't matter. don't want to take an experimental clot shot? too bad, it's for the greater good! want to own and drive a car? too bad, you can bike to work, it's for the greater good. getting attacked/shot/stabbed on the subway? fight back and we'll jail you with a $1billion bond while writing puff pieces about the life-long felon/psych patient/illegal alien who did it it. defend yourself during a home invasion? guns seized and sent straight to jail!

scientific debate? what are you, a grandma killer and a transphobe?

"democrats" aren't liberals, they're radical leftists who hate the country.

 
jimjamjammer said:
The usual suspects that always tout Joe's mental acuity are noticably absent. I wonder if it finally clicked after last night?
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aerius said:
They'll be back as soon as they get their next talking points from their masters. Enjoy things while they're gone.
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Well that didn't take long. It was cold medication. He had jet lag. He was just tired. It was just an off night. The press is out to get him. BUT HE'S STILL BETTER THAN TRUMP!!!

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koquerelle said:
You're a fucking imbecile. Get help.

"They didn't vote for him. They voted against Trump."
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Progressives voted for Biden, because they were against Trump

That is a true statement. You are a fucking POS liar
 
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