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So I’ve been really struggling to figure out if my laptop is or isn’t compatible with the PSVR2. As I understand it you need a DisplayPort OR USB-C that is DP compatible and is connected to the GPU.

My laptop doesn’t have a DisplayPort, but it does have a USB-C port which although it doesn’t have the little “DP” symbol next to it which is supposed to be how you tell, according to the specifications and the manufacturers website they claim that it is DP compatible.

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They claim port five is USB-C with DP even though it’s not marked as such on the actual laptop.

But turning to the next issue is how can I tell if the port actually connects to the GPU or not. As I understand it if it only connects to the motherboard it will only have integrated graphics, not the discrete GPU and VR will not work at all.

Is there anyway to tell for sure @Madmick @jefferz @Slobodan ? I don’t want to waste money on acquiring not just the PSVR2 to PC adapter but also a USB-C to DisplayPort adapter.
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Before looking at anything my powerful prejudice is to assume the USB-C port runs through the motherboard, and isn't a direct port built onto the GPU itself. That would be my assumption with any laptop. Here is its support page (with manuals):
www.gigabyte.com

AORUS 15 (Intel 12th Gen) Support | Laptop - GIGABYTE Global

World’s leading brand of the best gaming laptops and creator laptops. Produce the thinnest, lightest, and high-performance laptops for gamers and creators.
www.gigabyte.com www.gigabyte.com
The User Manual itself:

But they usually don't even show schematic blueprints in the most detailed user manuals, so I checked my favorite German laptop reviewer for screenshots. In the below photo, we're looking from underneath; the top of the photo shows the rear of the laptop, the bottom the front, and so the right side of the photo is the left of the laptop when it's sat upright in front of you as you would use it which is the side that port is on.
csm_Aorus_15_XE5_Hardware1_c75aba2a77.jpg


So zoomed in:
csm_Aorus_15_XE5_Hardware4_cfaa2f819c.jpg


That appears to be motherboard to me, not the GPU itself extending out from underneath the "RX5PYE GPU" label. You can see that with the "USB3_CON1" markings and other notations typical of a motherboard. It's tougher to tell since 'discrete' GPUs even in laptops don't come encased in all of the shrouding plastic and fans like they do in desktop GPUs, due to space issues, it's just the fiberboard and circuits, so it looks just like a motherboard, you can see that if you watch a GPU teardown video, but I think the GPU there is hidden under those snakey-looking heat dissipation pipes, and the fan itself, along that top right side quadrant of our zoomed in photo.

Okay, having said all that, I don't think the concern here is a direct connection. That's incindental. The concern with more direct connections is bandwidth. Less direct connections, which mean data has to traverse more bridges on a motherboard, usually means being routed through lanes that have less bandwidth. While PSVR2 may require Displayport for its protocol, and that's why a regular USB port with sufficient bandwidth wouldn't work, it appears your laptop's port supports Displayport protocol, so fortunately for you, I think your only concern is bandwidth.

CLIFFS
A Google tells me PSVR2 requires a Displayport 1.4 connection meaning 32.6 Gbps bandwidth. But that port is a USB-C 3.2 Gen 1 port. The maximum bandwidth supported by such a port is 10.0 Gb/s at most (8.0 Gb/s effective). The fact it can carry a video signal means it can output video to another display or device through that port using the Displayport protocol. Unfortunately, that isn't sufficient to power the PSVR2 which is a seriously high-performance gaming device which simply requires a larger, faster pipe to pump out the data.

So, no, I don't believe your laptop is PSVR2 compatible.
 
Madmick said:
Skip to the bottom if you just want Cliffs.

Before looking at anything my powerful prejudice is to assume the USB-C port runs through the motherboard, and isn't a direct port built onto the GPU itself. That would be my assumption with any laptop. Here is its support page (with manuals):
www.gigabyte.com

AORUS 15 (Intel 12th Gen) Support | Laptop - GIGABYTE Global

World’s leading brand of the best gaming laptops and creator laptops. Produce the thinnest, lightest, and high-performance laptops for gamers and creators.
www.gigabyte.com www.gigabyte.com
The User Manual itself:

But they usually don't even show schematic blueprints in the most detailed user manuals, so I checked my favorite German laptop reviewer for screenshots. In the below photo, we're looking from underneath; the top of the photo shows the rear of the laptop, the bottom the front, and so the right side of the photo is the left of the laptop when it's sat upright in front of you as you would use it, and the left of the photo is the right side of the laptop when it's in front of you.
csm_Aorus_15_XE5_Hardware1_c75aba2a77.jpg


That left side of the laptop (when it is upright sat in front of you as you would use it) is where the port is. So zoomed in:
csm_Aorus_15_XE5_Hardware4_cfaa2f819c.jpg


That appears to be motherboard to me, not the GPU itself extending out from underneath the "RX5PYE GPU" label. You can see that with the "USB3_CON1" markings and other notations typical of a motherboard. It's tough to tell with since 'discrete' GPUs even in laptops don't come encased in all of the shrouding plastic and fans like they do in desktop GPUs, due to space issues, it's just the fiberboard and circuits, so it looks just like a motherboard, you can see that if you watch a GPU teardown video, but I think the GPU there is under those snakey-looking heat dissipation pipes, and the fan itself, along that top right side of our zoomed in photo.

Okay, having said all that, I don't think the concern here is a direct connection. That's incindental. The concern with more direct connections is bandwidth. Less direct connections, which mean data has to traverse more bridges on a motherboard, usually means being routed through lanes that have less bandwidth. While PSVR2 may require Displayport for its protocol, and that's why a regular USB port with sufficient bandwidth wouldn't work, it appears your laptop's port supports Displayport protocol, so fortunately for you, I think your only concern is bandwidth.

CLIFFS
A Google tells me PSVR2 requires a Displayport 1.4 connection meaning 32.6 Gbps bandwidth. But that port is a USB-C 3.2 Gen 1 port. The maximum bandwidth supported by such a port is 10.0 Gb/s at most (8.0 Gb/s effective). The fact it can carry a video signal means it can output video to another display or device through that port using the Displayport protocol. Unfortunately, that isn't sufficient to power the PSVR2 which is a seriously high-performance gaming device which simply requires a larger, faster pipe to pump out the data.

So, no, I don't believe your laptop is PSVR2 compatible.
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Thanks Mick. Well, that’s a bummer. I guess one way or another I can just “try it out” since if it was compatible I think I wouldn’t need any adapter at all, it would just connect from the PSVR2 directly to the laptop itself, and either it will work, or it won’t.

I just wish that I had done this research before buying Half-Life Alyx and Doom VFR on the Steam fall sale last week. So long $35 or whatever, I hardly knew ye.

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So I go to Best Buy tonight to look at the games and get a phone case.

I talk to a Best Buy employee about Black Myth Wukong game for the PS5.
I know it is good and I was kind of on the fence about purchasing it for full price.. They had 2 copies on the shelf. The employee said it was his favorite game of the year and we discussed it for a few minutes, he convinced me to get it and I grabbed a copy and took it to the front to pay for it. Lady at the checkout rang it up and then said it was still not out yet and she could not sell it to me. I asked her why was it on the shelf if I could not buy it.

FML
 
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Ladder Master said:
So I go to Best Buy tonight to look at the games and get a phone case.

I talk to a Best Buy employee about Black Myth Wukong game for the PS5.
I know it is good and I was kind of on the fence about purchasing it for full price.. They had 2 copies on the shelf. The employee said it was his favorite game of the year and we discussed it for a few minutes, he convince me to get it and I grabbed a copy and took it to the front to pay for it. Lady at the checkout rang it up and then said it was still not out yet and she could not sell it to me. I asked her why was it on the shelf if I could not buy it.

FML
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It comes out December 12. They messed up. I worked as a Nintendo holiday ambassador when I was younger and these places do this all the time. They just get a bunch of games in a box and ignore the notes to not put it out on the shelves. It was my job to make sure they didn't do stuff like that. It was a pretty cool side gig, I didn't need the money at the time but I just took it because they gave a lot of free stuff away.
 
Zazen said:
It comes out December 12. They messed up. I worked as a Nintendo holiday ambassador when I was younger and these places do this all the time. They just get a bunch of games in a box and ignore the notes to not put it out on the shelves. It was my job to make sure they didn't do stuff like that. It was a pretty cool side gig, I didn't need the money at the time but I just took it because they gave a lot of free stuff away.
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Or to be more exact, why would a minimum wage teen or adult care that much about something they aren't paid to care about lol.
 
Madmick said:
Skip to the bottom if you just want Cliffs.

Before looking at anything my powerful prejudice is to assume the USB-C port runs through the motherboard, and isn't a direct port built onto the GPU itself. That would be my assumption with any laptop. Here is its support page (with manuals):
www.gigabyte.com

AORUS 15 (Intel 12th Gen) Support | Laptop - GIGABYTE Global

World’s leading brand of the best gaming laptops and creator laptops. Produce the thinnest, lightest, and high-performance laptops for gamers and creators.
www.gigabyte.com www.gigabyte.com
The User Manual itself:

But they usually don't even show schematic blueprints in the most detailed user manuals, so I checked my favorite German laptop reviewer for screenshots. In the below photo, we're looking from underneath; the top of the photo shows the rear of the laptop, the bottom the front, and so the right side of the photo is the left of the laptop when it's sat upright in front of you as you would use it which is the side that port is on.
csm_Aorus_15_XE5_Hardware1_c75aba2a77.jpg


So zoomed in:
csm_Aorus_15_XE5_Hardware4_cfaa2f819c.jpg


That appears to be motherboard to me, not the GPU itself extending out from underneath the "RX5PYE GPU" label. You can see that with the "USB3_CON1" markings and other notations typical of a motherboard. It's tougher to tell since 'discrete' GPUs even in laptops don't come encased in all of the shrouding plastic and fans like they do in desktop GPUs, due to space issues, it's just the fiberboard and circuits, so it looks just like a motherboard, you can see that if you watch a GPU teardown video, but I think the GPU there is hidden under those snakey-looking heat dissipation pipes, and the fan itself, along that top right side quadrant of our zoomed in photo.

Okay, having said all that, I don't think the concern here is a direct connection. That's incindental. The concern with more direct connections is bandwidth. Less direct connections, which mean data has to traverse more bridges on a motherboard, usually means being routed through lanes that have less bandwidth. While PSVR2 may require Displayport for its protocol, and that's why a regular USB port with sufficient bandwidth wouldn't work, it appears your laptop's port supports Displayport protocol, so fortunately for you, I think your only concern is bandwidth.

CLIFFS
A Google tells me PSVR2 requires a Displayport 1.4 connection meaning 32.6 Gbps bandwidth. But that port is a USB-C 3.2 Gen 1 port. The maximum bandwidth supported by such a port is 10.0 Gb/s at most (8.0 Gb/s effective). The fact it can carry a video signal means it can output video to another display or device through that port using the Displayport protocol. Unfortunately, that isn't sufficient to power the PSVR2 which is a seriously high-performance gaming device which simply requires a larger, faster pipe to pump out the data.

So, no, I don't believe your laptop is PSVR2 compatible.
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So confusing things even further, a lot of other information I’ve seen on the issue for determining if a port is connected to the GPU is by looking on the Nvidia control panel at Physx and seeing what it shows. When I look at mine, I see this:

IMG_0109.jpeg

IMG_0104.jpeg

So notably it’s showing a DisplayPort port, which my laptop does not have, but it does have that USB-C that’s DisplayPort compatible, which some information I’ve read seems to be what’s represented here.

So I guess there’s really only one way to know for sure and that’s to just get the adapter and try it out and see what happens.
 
Haven's AAA project on-track per studio:



Haven joined the PlayStation Studios family in 2022, and we are on track to build an exclusive new IP for PlayStation and grow the first Sony game development team in Canada.In May 2021, we embarked on a journey to start Haven Studios with a small team and big ambitions. Our goal was to build a studio where we could make the kind of games we've always wanted to create and games we've longed to play.We've made amazing progress in a short time thanks to our talented, passionate team and their exceptional contributions. We established a culture at Haven grounded in kindness, adaptability and courage that unlocks creativity.

Our first new IP for PlayStation is on track to deliver a AAA multiplayer experience with a vision to build a systemic and evolving world focused on freedom, thrill, and playfulness that will keep players entertained and engaged for years.
 
Valhoven said:
Haven's AAA project on-track per studio:



Haven joined the PlayStation Studios family in 2022, and we are on track to build an exclusive new IP for PlayStation and grow the first Sony game development team in Canada.In May 2021, we embarked on a journey to start Haven Studios with a small team and big ambitions. Our goal was to build a studio where we could make the kind of games we've always wanted to create and games we've longed to play.We've made amazing progress in a short time thanks to our talented, passionate team and their exceptional contributions. We established a culture at Haven grounded in kindness, adaptability and courage that unlocks creativity.

Our first new IP for PlayStation is on track to deliver a AAA multiplayer experience with a vision to build a systemic and evolving world focused on freedom, thrill, and playfulness that will keep players entertained and engaged for years.
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I fear this may be the next Concord. I was actually more optimistic for that one than I am this lol but we’ll see
 
Zazen said:
I fear this may be the next Concord. I was actually more optimistic for that one than I am this lol but we’ll see
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Is this a survival game? It sounds like it. Survival games are weirdly popular on PC so it might survive their at they very least.
 
Zazen said:
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Oh for some reason I thought this was being made by someone else. A lot of people feel like this game is going to be the next concord. I have a small amount of hope for this game because it's at least in a genre that isn't packed by other shooters just like it. Payday 3 also failed pretty hard recently so there's a spot open for this game to fill in. Same with Marathon. Extraction shooters don't really have a huge presence on console except for Hunt which isn't that huge anyways.

Who knows what will happen though GAAS games are failing left and right.
 
What are you guys excited for in 2025? The year looks amazing and could even surpass 2023. I’ve already got a long list including Monster Hunter Wilds, Expedition 33, The First Berserker Khazan, Ghost of Yotei , Hell is Us, Doom: The Dark Ages, Little Nightmares III, Reanimal, Morsels, Tails of Iron 2, Lost in Random The Eternal Die, Dynasty Warriors Origins, and Crimson Desert. Another year of me buying too many games lol.
 
DS2 and Ghost are probably what I look forward to the most. Daybreak 2 also. Expedition 33 also looks amazing. I probably wont get a chance to play any of them next year since I'll be to busy playing stuff from 2023/24.
 
Expedition 33 is right at the top of my list.

Hoping for something to get me hyped at the game awards
 
Zazen said:
What are you guys excited for in 2025? The year looks amazing and could even surpass 2023. I’ve already got a long list including Monster Hunter Wilds, Expedition 33, The First Berserker Khazan, Ghost of Yotei , Hell is Us, Doom: The Dark Ages, Little Nightmares III, Reanimal, Morsels, Tails of Iron 2, Lost in Random The Eternal Die, Dynasty Warriors Origins, and Crimson Desert. Another year of me buying too many games lol.
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First Berserker looks incredible! My vote. Then Crimson Desert and Yotei, which has this unexpected renegade, outlaw, cowboy vibe I liken to Tarantino's work.
 
Valhoven said:
First Berserker looks incredible! My vote. Then Crimson Desert and Yotei, which has this unexpected renegade, outlaw, cowboy vibe I liken to Tarantino's work.
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Looks like the release date for Khazan leaked. I’m seeing March 27. Great if true and would mean that I have a game for each of the first three months.
 
Anybody get their wrap up to work? It worked for me on mobile but had blank pictures for all the game related stuff. Desktop is down.

wrapup.playstation.com

Wrap-Up 2024 | PlayStation

PlayStation® Wrap-Up 2024
wrapup.playstation.com wrapup.playstation.com
 
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