Off Steroids, Jon Jones Looks Average

[TheLastEmperorReurns]

His chin was godly and his cardio was better than ever so.....

but his power and speed declined

 

[Captain Herb]

Who says he is iff the roids just because we havent heard and failed test reports etc. Maybe he just got serious about it and followed the proper procedure and timeline. Hard to think he would just stop and not dramatically lose muscle mass.

He did say that he cut from 217 instead of the usual 225

 

[Captain Herb]

Don't look that much different to me not like he was laying out guys at a furious rate or slamming people with feats of strength.

But he kind of was at one point

 

[ChildoftheCorn]

He definitely seems timid when he's not on the juice. Reyes even turned him into a panic wrestler.

 

[RawkyMarciano]

Good post, Jones does look very average as of late and it's probably do to lack of roids. @RawkyMarciano @asdf122345

Absolute facts.

 

[OmegaRugal]

I thought he popped prior to dc2 and then it got postponed and then he beat dc after that and got popped again? He didn’t pop, other than for picos, in Gus 2.

He had adnormal.

I thought he popped prior to dc2 and then it got postponed and then he beat dc after that and got popped again? He didn’t pop, other than for picos, in Gus 2.

He popped for adnormal T levels before USADA and before vs DC 1.

He had super impossibly low levels of T and they were also fluctuating adnormally from test ot test.
CLEAR SIGN of masking agent.

He hid under the cage from USADA.

He tested positive for masking agents and estrogen blockers I believe for DC 2 which was cancelled.

He tested positive right after DC 2 rematch was held for actual roids.

The roids he was tested positive for allows you to gain strength without gaining too much mass which is how he makes 205 yet has HW strength.

Now that strength seems to be depleting. I called it when he fought Smith and struggled to get takedowns.
Then he struggled with Santos and arguably lost.
Now he struggled with Reyes and should have lost based on all metrics and my own working eyeballs.

The Jones that tossed Cormier around like a child no longer exist.

He needs to cash in on some fights before he fully runs out of juice and retire like GSP.

 

[jeff7b9]

It’s a combination of several factors.

1- bigger, more agile and athletic opponents.
As much as people don’t want to give credit to the new breed being better than the golden age stars which we hold on nostalgic pedestals, these guys move WAY better than the 6’1 flat footed plodding Shoguns and Rampages or even Glover and DC.

2a- every opponent he faces now has been low key preparing for Jon Jones for most of, if not their entire career. There is now over 4 hours of fight tape on Jon for teams to pick apart and study.

2b- Jon has serious Mileage on him. Absolute WARS with Gus, DC 2x, Santos, Reyes plus 14 title fight camps preparing for 5 round fights.

3- Steroids/USADA

4- TDD in MMA has really really improved. Aside from Khabib, no one is able to consistently take elite fighters down, keep them there, and do damage.
Jon was most lethal finishing from top position and guys are so damn good at stuffing TDs or getting up.

 

[RedfernNow]

Remember this slip of the tongue ?

Jon Bones Jones.
Not
Jon Brains Jones.
Lol


I was such a Jones fan from his first UFC fight onwards.
Everyone else has got better.
USADA is here.
Yes, I see a combination of things.
The sadness for me is that he has changed into a new GSP, point fighting champ.
But UFC/WWE cannot lose another marquee else Conor totally has them by the balls.
So be prepared for more fuckries with no rematches.

p.s. Also watch and see how hyped Adesanya gets to keep the casuals coming through the door. The UFC business model needs stars which is why Dana probably wishes that Stipe could have been a bigger draw with casuals. Imagine if Stipe, a firefighter had the persona of Colby. He would be beloved by Dana and the UFC/WWE axis. As it is, Jones is the closest they have. He's a company man.

 

[Wicked_1]

He did say that he cut from 217 instead of the usual 225

Yeah that's clears him. It's really not hard to cheat from all I've seen and read. People get caught cause they get cocky and dont follow their schedule. For instance, with plant based testosterone it's basically impossible to catch that. They make them out of Mexican yams..they test for animal based testosterone. So they can use all of that they want. It's more expensive, but hes jon jones.

He can cycle lots of things, and not get caught as long as he does it based on the schedule. There are some short windows on a lot of things. Gsp even said it was easy to beat the test. They do however keep the samples for 10 years now...so they could back test when new tests come available. Even then tho, the money made will be spent, and there will be no taking titles etc. I seriously doubt the will even back test anyone.

I've seen pics of jon where u can tell he wasnt using then. Then u see him now, and everything but his legs are jacked, and he is a cardio machine. The picto crap and pulsingnisntotal b.s. they get paid to test the fighters but not to catch them. And when they do catch them, they move the event to another state and nothing happens. At least not to guys like jon.

 

[Captain Herb]

Yeah that's clears him. It's really not hard to cheat from all I've seen and read. People get caught cause they get cocky and dont follow their schedule. For instance, with plant based testosterone it's basically impossible to catch that. They make them out of Mexican yams..they test for animal based testosterone. So they can use all of that they want. It's more expensive, but hes jon jones.

He can cycle lots of things, and not get caught as long as he does it based on the schedule. There are some short windows on a lot of things. Gsp even said it was easy to beat the test. They do however keep the samples for 10 years now...so they could back test when new tests come available. Even then tho, the money made will be spent, and there will be no taking titles etc. I seriously doubt the will even back test anyone.

I've seen pics of jon where u can tell he wasnt using then. Then u see him now, and everything but his legs are jacked, and he is a cardio machine. The picto crap and pulsingnisntotal b.s. they get paid to test the fighters but not to catch them. And when they do catch them, they move the event to another state and nothing happens. At least not to guys like jon.

Don't know what I read but I like it