(Now backed by science) Anatomy of the ideal fighter -and a very interesting surprise-

[Rubios]

I've started holidays and... I got sick. So I've spent probably too many hours researching papers, studies and articles on physiology, biomechanics and sports science that pose hypotheses, conjectures, theoretical assumptions. Most of them get to similar conclusions.

He measures 1.91 (diminishing returns starts aprox. at 1.93) and competes at LHW.
203cm wingspan (great relative reach). Aprox. 9% body fat. Short femur, long shin. Compact torso. Short and wide neck. Medium humerus, long forearm.

The surprising thing is that, on fight night, he weights 96 kg, so cutting less than 7 pounds.
And -once reached the desired lean muscle mass-, he trains year round (on and off camp) and competes at his optimal weight, without barely any fluctuation.

He has won genetic lottery, and some fighters would not be at his peak performance at single digit body fat% so they would weight slightly more in the cage.
Still, much closer to what Jiri does than to what Poatan i.e. does.
In fact, and that's kinda weird, Jiri's height and wingspan are exactly 1.91 (6'3") and 203 (80").

Sources:
James, L.P., Haff, G.G., Kelly, V.G., & Beckman, E.M. (2016). Towards a determination of the physiological characteristics distinguishing successful MMA athletes: A systematic review.
UFC Performance Institute (2021). PI Annual Report – Athlete Load, Recovery, Composition & Performance Benchmarks.
NSCA International MMA Conference Proceedings
Zemková, E., Hamar, D., & Pupiš, M. (2018). Biomechanics and physiology of fighting sports.
Callan, S.D., Brunner, D.M., Devolve, K.L., Mullins, B., Guskiewicz, K., & Ruby, B.C. (2000). Physiological profiles of elite freestyle wrestlers.
Franchini, E., Brito, C.J., & Artioli, G.G. (2012). Weight loss in combat sports: physiological, psychological and performance effects.
Almansba, R., Franchini, E., Sterkowicz, S., Femia, P., & Escobar-Molina, R. (2007). Anthropometrical and physiological characteristics of elite judo athletes.
Marinho, B.F., Vilaça-Alves, J., Monteiro, C.P., & Aidar, F.J. (2016). Anthropometric profile and physical performance of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu athletes.

 

[davidlemonparty]

This is very interesting.
Slightly homosexual
But very interesting.

 

[b00tysweat]

strong strong strong ratio of researchers names to weird topic ratio

 

[Kung Fu Kowboy]

Prime Jon Jones ?

 

[Siver!]

Prime Jon Jones ?

Jiri was the first person to spring to mind before OP actually mentioned him, but I guess Jon Jones was a way more orthodox fighter with a more orthodox base.

LHW Jon Jones is probably the archetype. The fact he achieved what he achieved despite being a Mcgregor-esque fuck up is monumental. Give a sensible human that physique and skill set and they're probably 40-1 by now ignoring all the retarded suspensions and issues with the law. They might never have got DQ'ed if they were a dirtbag, either.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Jiri was the first person to spring to mind before OP actually mentioned him, but I guess Jon Jones was a way more orthodox fighter with a more orthodox base.

LHW Jon Jones is probably the archetype. The fact he achieved what he achieved despite being a Mcgregor-esque fuck up is monumental. Give a sensible human that physique and skill set and they're probably 40-1 by now ignoring all the retarded suspensions and issues with the law. They might never have got DQ'ed if they were a dirtbag, either.

Greatest waste of talent that will befall the sport for a generation.

 

[ultra321]

 

[rear naked ankle pick]

prime raul rosas jr?

 

[Luthien]

prime raul rosas jr?

 

[Intermission]

Mine isn't too bad? I'm heavy downstairs light on top. Broad shoulders.

 

[Hymen Crusher]

Wingspan is the key for so many sports. Im 6 3 when I was younger and skinnier had a negative wingspan white guy style now its even. That's why jon is so crazy

 

[Thy]

 

[Rubios]

In fact, JJ would be at the upper end of height (exactly 1.93), BUT his ape index -yes, it's the actual terminology- makes him a bit too lanky: he should have a wingspan of 205 (+12 cm vs height) instead of 215 (+22).

His body type is probably very close to optimal, but the actual data describes a carbon copy of Jiri. And I would never guessed.

The most interesting point (LHW JJ is a perfect example, as well as Jiri) is that this perfect specimen for fighting would compete at LHW with a walk around weight not even 7 lbs above the 205 limit.
He would train (and fight) year-round at aprox. 96 kg.

So massive weight-cutting and rebounding could be just a "game theory" sort of thing that fighters and his teams take for granted.
Even in a perfect weight cut and rehydration, a fighter's CNS is not fully recovered (compromising reflexes, coordination, psychomotricity and cognition. And you need to process lots of info on the fly in a fight) is giving up glycogen (muscle strength endurance and ability to contract), hormonal environment (a worse training camp and testosterone/adrenaline/cortisol... levels in the cage).
And, obviously, chin.

Studies conclude that even giving up 25+ lbs to fight someone like Poatan, i.e. should be the right choice.

 

[Trabaho]

Mine isn't too bad? I'm heavy downstairs light on top. Broad shoulders.

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What a goof

 

[Trabaho]

It thought this thread was gonna be something. Wasn't.

Jiri lost to Poatan.

 

[TheBulge]

In fact, JJ would be at the upper end of height (exactly 1.93), BUT his ape index -yes, it's the actual terminology- makes him a bit too lanky: he should have a wingspan of 205 (+12 cm vs height) instead of 215 (+22).

His body type is probably very close to optimal, but the actual data describes a carbon copy of Jiri. And I would never guessed.

The most interesting point (LHW JJ is a perfect example, as well as Jiri) is that this perfect specimen for fighting would compete at LHW with a walk around weight not even 7 lbs above the 205 limit.
He would train (and fight) year-round at aprox. 96 kg.

So massive weight-cutting and rebounding could be just a "game theory" sort of thing that fighters and his teams take for granted.
Even in a perfect weight cut and rehydration, a fighter's CNS is not fully recovered (compromising reflexes, coordination, psychomotricity and cognition. And you need to process lots of info on the fly in a fight) is giving up glycogen (muscle strength endurance and ability to contract), hormonal environment (a worse training camp and testosterone/adrenaline/cortisol... levels in the cage).
And, obviously, chin.

Studies conclude that even giving up 25+ lbs to fight someone like Poatan, i.e. should be the right choice.

In this sport Jon's lanky built helps him not just with the striking but grappling as well. Think of how Olympian DC couldn't take him down. His limbs are so long it's a long way to get him all the way to the ground, but he always has a few limbs firmly on the ground. The same goes for his offensive grappling, how he wraps people up with his limbs even if the TD isn't fully completed.

On top of that he somehow found the ability to be extremely good fighting in-close, the clinch. Usually the worst place to be in for a tall lanky fighter. He learned to use his elbows and knees there while fully controling opponents whichever way he wanted and once again, he is so long that he does not have to use an upright posture in the clinch which keeps him at a safe distance from incoming strikes(except for the uppercut) and TD attempts.

The Jones in the DC fights is the most perfect fighter.

 

[Vehap1]

6´4" and on underground steroids hehe

 

[Rubios]

In this sport Jon's lanky built helps him not just with the striking but grappling as well. Think of how Olympian DC couldn't take him down. His limbs are so long it's a long way to get him all the way to the ground, but he always has a few limbs firmly on the ground. The same goes for his offensive grappling, how he wraps people up with his limbs even if the TD isn't fully completed.

On top of that he somehow found the ability to be extremely good fighting in-close, the clinch. Usually the worst place to be in for a tall lanky fighter. He learned to use his elbows and knees there while fully controling opponents whichever way he wanted and once again, he is so long that he does not have to use an upright posture in the clinch which keeps him at a safe distance from incoming strikes(except for the uppercut) and TD attempts.

The Jones in the DC fights is the most perfect fighter.

I'm not saying that you are not correct. I couldn't even if I wanted to. There's a high degree of THEORETICAL scientific consensus, but the empirical evidence says that JJ is the best MMA fighter we've known so far.
*And, in fact, he is close to optimal anatomy/body composition.

It's like saying that, as Maradona or Messi were the best football players ever, they have the perfect physique for the game.
Correlation doesn't imply causality and all that.

 

[Rubios]

It thought this thread was gonna be something. Wasn't.

Jiri lost to Poatan.

As you already know -you're trolling a blue belt, I get it. That's... fine, I guess- that means nothing.
Again, correlation doesn't imply causality.
But you already knew that.

 

[Ramon Antonio]

Jiri was the first person to spring to mind before OP actually mentioned him, but I guess Jon Jones was a way more orthodox fighter with a more orthodox base.

LHW Jon Jones is probably the archetype. The fact he achieved what he achieved despite being a Mcgregor-esque fuck up is monumental. Give a sensible human that physique and skill set and they're probably 40-1 by now ignoring all the retarded suspensions and issues with the law. They might never have got DQ'ed if they were a dirtbag, either.

They wouldn’t have done the PEDs either so who knows how well they would’ve done.