• Xenforo is upgrading us to version 2.3.7 on Tuesday Aug 19, 2025 at 01:00 AM BST (date has been pushed). This upgrade includes several security fixes among other improvements. Expect a temporary downtime during this process. More info here

No more masters in the ufc, where are the new jacare or demian maia that will give khamzat real problems

We won't see anymore of those masters at the top IMO. The sport has evolved where people train MMA out the gate rather than a specific martial art. It was great while it lasted though.

Poatan is the last one of those masters who got to the very top, but we all knew all along that his reign would end the moment he fought a legit grappler.
I think it can still happen. Khamzat just reached the top, RDR is rising fast, Jailton Almeida is getting close to a title shot... one dimensional grapplers can still bring the heat.
 
He's a legit black belt. Probably the best at MW. Also has hands and power. His issue is gas tank. Though if Khamzat had as bad of a gas tank as people say here, you'd think he'd be the worst matchup.

Robocop best black belt at middleweight? Rodolfo Vieira is a middleweight, multi time bjj champ, and then there’s Fluffy Hernandez who subbed Rodolfo
 
Robocop best black belt at middleweight? Rodolfo Vieira is a middleweight, multi time bjj champ, and then there’s Fluffy Hernandez who subbed Rodolfo
Yes but if you saw that fight, Fluffy locked in a guillotine on a Rodolfo who was fully gassed out, couldn't even lift his arms to throw or block punches and was running on fumes literally. The sub was set up with strikes too I believe which lead to an incredibly sloppy and desperate akedown attempt from Viera and then getting choked out.
 
You don't simply tap or sweep a guy like Khamzat from the bottom in MMA, no matter how good your BJJ is. It didn't happen to Khabib and Islam either.
 
Yes but if you saw that fight, Fluffy locked in a guillotine on a Rodolfo who was fully gassed out, couldn't even lift his arms to throw or block punches and was running on fumes literally. The sub was set up with strikes too I believe which lead to an incredibly sloppy and desperate akedown attempt from Viera and then getting choked out.

I’ve seen the fight, fluffy drowned him and then subbed him, like he’s done to the majority of his opponents. Rodolfo is as legit as they come on the ground, but Fluffy is a nightmare matchup for him. I think Fluffy would give Khamzat a nightmare of a time in a five rounder.
 
It's over for those type of fighters. It's the dawn of a new generation..

a3cgig.gif

More manly than the dumb shit we Americans do at weddings like the chicken dance, electric slide, and the cupid shuffle.
 
Yes but if you saw that fight, Fluffy locked in a guillotine on a Rodolfo who was fully gassed out, couldn't even lift his arms to throw or block punches and was running on fumes literally. The sub was set up with strikes too I believe which lead to an incredibly sloppy and desperate akedown attempt from Viera and then getting choked out.

I’ve seen the fight, fluffy drowned him and then subbed him, like he’s done to the majority of his opponents. Rodolfo is as legit as they come on the ground, but Fluffy is a nightmare matchup for him. I think Fluffy would give Khamzat a nightmare of a time in a five rounder.
 
I agree, the level of wrestling/grappling in MMA on average is not higher now than it was 10 years ago. Everyone is more well rounded now and grappling specialists are scarce.

I think the level of wrestling/BJJ is definitely higher now, it's just that they don't stand out as much because the level of everyone else compared to the specialists has caught up, and they know how to at least defend better than they did.
 
I think it can still happen. Khamzat just reached the top, RDR is rising fast, Jailton Almeida is getting close to a title shot... one dimensional grapplers can still bring the heat.
Bad examples. Neither Khamzat nor RDR are one dimensional grapplers the way those masters were.
 
How about Khamzat just fight as needed and defend against RDR, Fluffy, Ciao/Imavov

Each presents a challenge and allows Khamzat to grow as champ before ditching weight classes, as he was already saying he wants to do


I wouldn’t say no to him vs Ank though
Hardest part about being a champ. It's always the guy's you least expect.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
1,271,301
Messages
57,709,159
Members
175,815
Latest member
Tim Anderson
Back
Top