Social Nick Fuentes is getting way too popular

[SuperAlly]

I, for one, am thoroughly enjoying the right-on-right discussions going on this thread

Got @Kassitus and Fuentes representing the old-school far-right: The Jews have all the power and they run everything. They use people of color as pawns but they really just want to keep control of all institutions and governments.

Then dudes like @ShadowRun and Shapiro with more modern far-right takes: The Jews and Israel are a part of the broader, white, Western world that's under attack by third world migration and all manner of nonwhites behaving badly.

They'll both agree that nonwhites are the problem but boy, that Jewish question is a tough one to solve...

Guys like possum and andy capp completely divorced from reality and zero concept of just how insane they come across

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

This is an interesting video that someone uploaded yesterday.

Goes to show just how shitty an "intellectual" Ben "Aquaman" Shapiro is in the realm of climate change. Since time has passed it appears Shapiro fails at both a theoretical level by having logical fallacy after logical fallacy in his arguments as well as a supremely misguided view of how real estate markets work (to the point that you would expect teenagers to better understand); but has also really screwed up on his predictions around the Paris Accords in particular around actions by China and India.



Although added to this is the exposure to how elitist and morally bankrupt Shapiro is as well.

 

[MDoza]

Yea and men can get pregnant ...... derp

People like to watch slimy people like Nick get put in their place, this is nothing new.

yea the incel virgin ....

Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes admits ‘at least 6 million’ Jews were killed in Nazi Germany​

Fuentes doubled down on his past statement that Adolf Hitler was ‘f—ing cool’​

Fuentes, whose followers are known as groypers, has become popular among white supremacists in recent years, promoting a wide range of antisemitic views and conspiracy theories on his podcast America First. He attended the deadly 2017 “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where marchers chanted, “Jews will not replace us”; has denied the Holocaust; and has warned Jews to leave the country. His recent appearance on The Tucker Carlson Show prompted what some are calling a civil war in the Republican Party.

/https://forward.com/news/788512/nick-fuentes-piers-morgan-uncensored-holocaust-hitler/



Morgan confronted Fuentes with a clip from his own podcast where he described his father avoiding restaurants like Applebee's and Red Lobster because they were "associated with African-Americans" (which Fuentes called "Black fare"). Morgan asked if this meant Fuentes was raised in a racist household. Fuentes exploded, calling it a "new low" and an attack on his parents, but later admitted, "I'm racist—everybody is

In a viral moment, Fuentes admitted he's a 27-year-old virgin who's never slept with a woman, while railing against feminism and calling women "annoying" who "grow old." Morgan labeled him a "misogynist dinosaur" and pressed on his advocacy for marriage-only sex despite his own celibacy. Fuentes laughed it off but got defensive when Morgan tied it to his incel-adjacent rhetoric.

Fuentes should have had a better answer for the “is Hitler cool” question.

Like.. Piers, is Napoleon cool? Is Ghengis Khan cool? Is Atilla the Hun cool? Were they responsible for millions of deaths? Yes, but they are still cool as historical figures.

 

[Spam On Rye]

It will against anyone like Fuentes. It is electoral poison.

You have yr finger on the pulse of America.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Fuentes should have had a better answer for the “is Hitler cool” question.

Like.. Piers, is Napoleon cool? Is Ghengis Khan cool? Is Atilla the Hun cool? Were they responsible for millions of deaths? Yes, but they are still cool as historical figures.

Certainly. He could have also said everyone goes on about Dubya being someone you want to have a beer with, even though he too has plenty of blood on his hands with his fake WMD swindle. Even pathetic folks on the left like to cozy up to Dubya like that fucking Ellen celebrity. Nobody is trying to put Bush in jail for the supreme crime of illegal aggression as per the Nuremburg Trials. Why does he get to walk free and be someone you want to have a beer with, but you can't even say Hitler is cool from a fashion sense. Is it because his and his administration's deceptions only cost hundreds of thousands of lies instead of millions?

Would be funny to hear the Piers Morgan flailing Boomer Neocon response to that.

 

[Satur9]

Certainly. He could have also said everyone goes on about Dubya being someone you want to have a beer with, even though he too has plenty of blood on his hands with his fake WMD swindle. Even pathetic folks on the left like to cozy up to Dubya like that fucking Ellen celebrity. Nobody is trying to put Bush in jail for the supreme crime of illegal aggression as per the Nuremburg Trials. Why does he get to walk free and be someone you want to have a beer with, but you can't even say Hitler is cool from a fashion sense. Is it because his and his administration's deceptions only cost hundreds of thousands of lies instead of millions?

Would be funny to hear the Piers Morgan flailing Boomer Neocon response to that.

Money and connections make the world go round, and time seems to heal all wounds, or make you blind to them...

Also heard Dubya is actually quite charismatic in person. Apparently, he can make you chuckle fairly easily. Look at Michelle every time they are around each other. She can't help but smile and laugh, and they should be the least compatible of folks. Why bring a guy to trial for crimes when you can just have fun and laugh at his jokes instead?

 

[KaNesDeath]

Nick Fuentes is bot-supported, because his ratio of retweets to followers is greater than Destiny, Ian Carroll, Hassan Piker, and Elon Musk; because bots are capable of retweeting but incapable of following?

That's how it works according to the NCRI, the same organization which claims that "Christ is King" is antisemitic, has a co-founder named Joel Finkelstein, and is partnered with the ADL and George Soros' Open Society.

I guess this is could be the new strategy now that Piers Morgan got his ass kicked trying to debate Nick Fuentes, but I think that others will follow in the footsteps of Piers Morgan because the audience numbers (for Nick Fuentes related content) are real.

Bot usage by influencers is very common. Used primarily to push initial engagement metrics for increased exposure. For the livestreaming platform Fuentes uses has horrendous discoverability and ad revenue potential.

Wouldnt put it past Rumble themselves to us bots/embeds for increased traffic metrics. Its a common tactic that Amazon(Twitch) and Stake(Kick) have used over the years.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

You have yr finger on the pulse of America.

What was i wrong about in a major way?

Money and connections make the world go round, and time seems to heal all wounds, or make you blind to them...

So could he heal the deficit of his war spending?

 

[gatchaman]

Bot usage by influencers is very common. Used primarily to push initial engagement metrics for increased exposure. For the livestreaming platform Fuentes uses has horrendous discoverability and ad revenue potential.

Wouldnt put it past Rumble themselves to us bots/embeds for increased traffic metrics. Its a common tactic that Amazon(Twitch) and Stake(Kick) have used over the years.

I don't know who uses bots and who doesn't, but I can tell you that a Jewish PR firm (NCRI) claiming that Fuentes's retweet to follower ratio on Twitter being higher than a handful of other users is conclusive evidence that Fuentes uses bots (and is therefore not really becoming more popular) is laughable.

 

[fedoriswar37]

lol I’m not no Jew just correcting the facts of history , also fuck white supremacist Nick . It wouldn’t hurt my feelings if we stopped funding Israel

This new wave of “Palestine “ supporters are annoying , also

They can stick their Palestine up their hole .

 

[fedoriswar37]

Damn, Piers pivoted so hard when Fuentes pointed out that Israel shares his views on maintaining their demographics, and how in the UK and US whites will soon be a minority.

Despite trying to label him as everything bad, he made Fuentes seem entertaining, funny, and good spirited.

Nick Fuentes is hillarious . Didn't really need Piers to prove that.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

I don't know who uses bots and who doesn't, but I can tell you that a Jewish PR firm (NCRI) claiming that Fuentes's retweet to follower ratio on Twitter being higher than a handful of other users is conclusive evidence that Fuentes uses bots (and is therefore not really becoming more popular) is laughable.

The thing with the mainstream right wing griftoverse is the tech revolution has them having a real distorted version of reality in terms of people out there. They live in their neo-con bubbles like Fox News, or curated twitter content from like minded-grifters, facebook stuff, or aging fading forums like this website (which has a reputation for bordering on racist hate speech) which probably has 1/10th the traffic it did just 10 or 15 years ago.

Like in the Candace Owens thread people are saying shit like she's acting outrageous as her 15 minutes of fame are up and stuff and it's COMPLETELY FALSE. She has been building her griftoverse world with her own propaganda since leaving Shapiro's propaganda joint. Owens is on the upswing of viewership and gaining. It's folks like Shapiro / Daily Wire, and Tim Pool that are doing horrible.

Old folks stuck in the mainstream right griftoverse are just so insulated, they completely lost track with reality about how much the lunacy of current administration has moved the Overton Window. They think they are serious people and Fuentes and Owens are not serious people when they are so nearly the exact same thing and rhetorically use the same "tricks".

 

[F1980]

It's crazy how much support he's getting. It doesn't seem natural to me. Maybe he is indeed a fed or CIA.

 

[KaNesDeath]

I don't know who uses bots and who doesn't, but I can tell you that a Jewish PR firm (NCRI) claiming that Fuentes's retweet to follower ratio on Twitter being higher than a handful of other users is conclusive evidence that Fuentes uses bots (and is therefore not really becoming more popular) is laughable.

Purpose of botting is to give the illusion of being popular in hopes it makes you popular. It served its purpose by leading him being amplified by Tucker and Piers. Which when you look at the social media landscape its the furthest Fuentes can go in exposure.

Shortly after Elon bought Twitter he manipulated users front page to amplify his own tweets. Elon himself even claimed that 33% of active Twitter users are bots.

 

[gatchaman]

Fuentes should have had a better answer for the “is Hitler cool” question.

Like.. Piers, is Napoleon cool? Is Ghengis Khan cool? Is Atilla the Hun cool? Were they responsible for millions of deaths? Yes, but they are still cool as historical figures.

Certainly. He could have also said everyone goes on about Dubya being someone you want to have a beer with, even though he too has plenty of blood on his hands with his fake WMD swindle. Even pathetic folks on the left like to cozy up to Dubya like that fucking Ellen celebrity. Nobody is trying to put Bush in jail for the supreme crime of illegal aggression as per the Nuremburg Trials. Why does he get to walk free and be someone you want to have a beer with, but you can't even say Hitler is cool from a fashion sense. Is it because his and his administration's deceptions only cost hundreds of thousands of lies instead of millions?

Would be funny to hear the Piers Morgan flailing Boomer Neocon response to that.

Excuse my interjection, but Nick Fuentes' victory lap on his own show last night was almost as interesting as the interview with Piers Morgan itself.

Nick Fuentes goes into the strategy of each discussion point. A couple of themes were not to take a hostile interviewer like Piers Morgan seriously and to not come off as conceding or defensive. This was displayed brilliantly when Morgan tried to finger wag at Fuentes for just answering "Because he's really cool." and laughing. Pier's Morgan asked him condescendingly, "You think this is funny?" and Fuentes replied, "Too soon?" Fuentes' regular audience was extra-entertained because it knows Fuentes made this statement to juxtapose to the times that Shapiro dismissed the USS Liberty and JFK assassination as ancient history.

I also highly recommend last night's Fuentes show on Rumble because Fuentes does a more serious take on the question of why Hitler was cool. Your reasoning is perfectly acceptable MDoza, but I think that Fuentes gives a different answer: History, as it is taught today in American schools, is a shaming exercise for young white males (Whitey genocided the natives, enslaved the blacks, and holocausted the Jews. Whitey's descendants must make amends so everyone can be at ease that there will never again be Nazis). Here in Canada, it seems like every public gathering starts with an acknowledgement of stolen native land. So the appeal of Hitler was not the killings and not the fashion, but the lack of shame. I'm not a historian, but I have heard that the cause of WWII was WWI (the unfair surrender terms imposed on Germany, in other words reparations, shaming). Here's my hot take: Hitler was cool because he embodied Kamala Harris' campaign slogan, "What can be, unburdened by what has been."

Unknown Pleasures, I think the parallel to GWB is not that you would want to have a beer with Hitler, but that GWB never apologized for torture. Similarly, Netanyahu doesn't begin his speeches with an acknowledgement that anal raping prisoners is bad. I think that the leftists (who don't like Israel politics anyway) have a better line of attack at Fuentes than the right: Fuentes is jealous that world Jewry has unseated the Roman Catholic Church as most prominent political influencer.

 

[gatchaman]

Purpose of botting is to give the illusion of being popular in hopes it makes you popular. It served its purpose by leading him being amplified by Tucker and Piers. Which when you look at the social media landscape its the furthest Fuentes can go in exposure.

Shortly after Elon bought Twitter he manipulated users front page to amplify his own tweets. Elon himself even claimed that 33% of active Twitter users are bots.

I think that the Nick Fuentes marketing strategy is just to go on every show that invites him. Some of Fuentes' fans chided Fuentes for being interviewed on Red Scare, and I didn't care for the interview personally, but then Dasha Nekrasova got cancelled by her talent agency for the completely unremarkable interview, and Fuentes was all over the Google news page again. So I think there is something to this strategy: There is no such thing as bad advertising.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

There is no such thing as bad advertising.

He has videos of asking his supporters to rape and kill in his name. Nothing bad could happen to him....

 

[gatchaman]

He has videos of asking his supporters to rape and kill in his name. Nothing bad could happen to him....

This is the strategy of Ben Shapiro and Piers Morgan, clip farming, except you couldn't even be bothered to provide the clip.

I've watched enough Fuentes to know that he is against violence. If he suggests to punch someone in the face, he is speaking rhetorically to hit the opponent with the force of superior argument. At the end of each America First episode, Fuentes takes questions from his audience, and he has repeatedly extinguished suggestions of individual acts of political violence.

Nick Fuentes even came out against capital punishment in his recent appearance on Steven Crowder's show, which was actually a much better interview than Piers Morgan for getting to getting to understand Fuentes' political positions.


As far as I am aware, Fuentes is in favor of killing in only three scenarios: self defense, revolution (such as the American Revolution) and war (like he is not opposed to going to war with South American countries to control their resources. It's this position that puts him at odds with non-interventionists like Ron Paul).

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

This is the strategy of Ben Shapiro and Piers Morgan, clip farming, except you couldn't even be bothered to provide the clip.

I've watched enough Fuentes to know that he is against violence. If he suggests to punch someone in the face, he is speaking rhetorically to hit the opponent with the force of superior argument. At the end of each America First episode, Fuentes takes questions from his audience, and he has repeatedly extinguished suggestions of individual acts of political violence.

Nick Fuentes even came out against capital punishment in his recent appearance on Steven Crowder's show, which was actually a much better interview than Piers Morgan for getting to getting to understand Fuentes' political positions.


As far as I am aware, Fuentes is in favor of killing in only three scenarios: self defense, revolution (such as the American Revolution) and war (like he is not opposed to going to war with South American countries to control their resources. It's this position that puts him at odds with non-interventionists like Ron Paul).

https://uploads.kiwifarms.st/data/video/7890/7890298-bf0f5bac388a41bddbd715b2e775b867.mp4

There is the clip. good luck finding much stuff like this on any public figure.

Why should i believe his words?

 

[gatchaman]

https://uploads.kiwifarms.st/data/video/7890/7890298-bf0f5bac388a41bddbd715b2e775b867.mp4

There is the clip. good luck finding much stuff like this on any public figure.

Why should i believe his words?

Congratulations, you have added the clip and now fully join the ranks of Ben Shapiro and Piers Morgan in clip farming.

Political incorrectness is precisely what separates Nick Fuentes from other public figures and is the key to his appeal; Nick Fuentes wouldn't be interesting if he was just like other public figures.

Why should you believe his words? You shouldn't blindly believe anyone, not even follow-the-science-I-am-the-science-Fauci.

I'm not advocating for you to do anything, but clip farming is an indication that you are not seriously engaged in the topic, and it is your credibility that suffers.